ACCEPTED Weapon and Armor Fixes (by kryptopyr)

[DoYouEvenModBro]

The patch is supposed to 'overwrite' the esp, since it has the same esp names as the ICH esps. That's why you put it after. Make sense?

Edited March 11, 2014 by DoYouEvenModBro

[Octopuss]

Not exactly.

Improved Closefaced Helmets --FULL SET-- V0_9 contains imp_helm.esp, which also has the imperial and guard helmets included.

Improved Closefaced Helmets -- WAF and CCF Compatible Versions contains Improved Closefaced Helmets_Legendary.esp, which contains the main helmets, the Dawnguard and Dragonborn stuff, but does not contain the imperial and guard stuff. The latter are standalone plugins called imp_helm_imp.esp and imp_guard_helm.esp.

So there is the legendary file which cannot overwrite anything, and there are two standalone plugins for stuff not present in the legendary file, BUT which again cannot overwrite anything, because the features are already included in the ICH main file.

 

MY BRAIN IS FULL OF F*CK!!!

[DoYouEvenModBro]

Ok. Here is what I do. I'll go through step by step. I really want you to understand this because I know it's confusing and it took me a while to get it to.

1.) I download and install 'Weapon & Armor Fixes Remade - Complete' as well as the ICH - WAF and CCF Compatibility Versions PATCH

1a.) In the WAF and CFF Compatibility Patch - There are a ton of ESPs. 

2.) I download 'Improved Closefaced Helmets' as well as the 'No Cloth Around Kneck Optional' and the Dragonborn and Dawnguard files.

2a.) I activate the following esps in the various ICH files: imp_helm.esp (main file) | imp_help_dbrn.esp (dragonborn)| imp_helm_dawn.esp (dawnguard) | imp_helm_imp.esp (from the optional no cloth around the neck optional)

 

3.) I install the ICH: WAF and CFF Patch from step 1 AFTER the main ICH file

3a.) In the patch, I activate the SAME esps as I activated from the ICH file. I do NOT use the legendary.esp. These will overwrite the main ICH esps with the esps from the W&A ICH Patch, see?

 

I do not use the legendary ESP because I like customization and it's not recognized by BOSS. I also am not near approaching by 250 plugin limit, so I don't really care about having multiple .esps. From what I understand, in the patch, you either activate the SAME esps as I did above, OR you use the Legendary.esp ONLY. I felt it was easier just to overwrite the same ones, that way I knew exactly which esps were being overwritten with the patch.

 

 

If I'm wrong, someone please correct me, but Octopuss, does that make sense?

Edited March 11, 2014 by DoYouEvenModBro

[Octopuss]

Yea, could anyone confirm this?

[Kelmych]

We should probably expand the description of installing this mod on the wiki page to make it a little clearer [Done].

Install the 4 ICH mod files mentioned on the wiki page for this mod (the meshes from these mods are needed).

From the Weapon and Armor Fixes mod  install the Improved Closefaced Helmets -- WAF and CCF Compatible Versions (if you didn't so so already) and use only this plugin:

• Improved Closefaced Helmets_Legendary.esp

Having done this you can hide all 4 plugins (esp)  from the 4 ICH mods in the STEP guide that you installed. The ICH legendary plugin from WAF includes modified versions of the records in the 4 esp plugins in ICH.

 

If you also want to use the 2 non-STEP ICH additions the SR:LE guide has instructions on how to install these files.

 

Yes, if you want BOSS to recognize the legendary plugin you'll need to use BUM (details on this are in the SR:LE guide) or just move the plugin manually to the correct place as mentioned in the detailed instructions. Eventually this won't be needed.

 

EDITED: STEP uses 4 of the ICH files, and the legendary patch covers all 4

[Octopuss]

So basically I will end up with removing all the plugins from ICH and using those provided by WAF patch. Cool! Thanks.

[Octopuss]

Reading the Nexus page, I get the impression that elven and orcish weapon should have different damage, right? And yet, I looted two of those swords, and both are identical. And by identical I mean all 3 stats. 22 damage, 13 weight, and 235 value. That doesn't seem right :O_o:

[EssArrBee]

Make sure that waf is tagged stats in Wrye bash.

[Octopuss]

Um, I use MO...

[MadWizard25]

Do you not make a bashed patch using wrye bash? Its in the STEP wiki instructions... 

[Octopuss]

Oh that. I completely forgot about it with this game. I didn't notice any benefit from it in the previous one, though.

I'll see if it fixes it. Thanks for the tip.

[Octopuss]

Ok, no change at all.

Could someone tell me what the correct (I still assume it's not correct over here) stats for those two swords are please?

[DoYouEvenModBro]

Vanilla is:

Elven Sword: Base Damage = 12

Orcish Sword: Base Damage = 9

 

Is it possible that WAF makes the two damages equal? Is that bad?

[EssArrBee]

Yes it makes sense since Orcich is heavy and takes three perks minimum to get to on the tree, where elven is light and only takes two perks. Kryptopyr just made the whole thing a little more intuitive to the perk tree progression.

[DoYouEvenModBro]

Yea, so Octupuss, it looks like you have everything set up correctly. Also, if you want to compare it to vanilla damage values, just go to the Skyrim Wikia or UESP site ;-)