GUIDE General Oblivion Support

[hishutup]

Use this Topic to post generic Oblivion questions when following any of the Oblivion guides.

 

Be sure to check the FAQs. I will be updating it as questions are asked.

 

 

I'll try to populate my Troubleshooting section on my FAQs page with common problems with Oblivion and Wrye Bash.

Edited October 10, 2014 by hishutup

[pmw57]

1 other crash I have is right by leywinnn when you exit out the back and head up north.  I can pinpoint what is causing this crash as it's inconsistent, sometimes I crash around that area sometimes I don;t.

Finding a way to reliably cause the crash is often the hard part. Even without that though, there are ways to improve the situation.

 

Some mods like the Curse of Hircine and RTT are known to cause stability problems. What you can do is to disable several of these mods and continue to do stuff around Leyawiin. If things remain stable then it's a good bet that one of those mods were responsible.

 

Personally, I had stability issues with both, and found reliable ways to make the crash occur. With the Curse of Hircine I found that when exiting West from the Imperial City, that turning North from Weye would guarantee a crash. I could save at the road signs and guarantee a crash by heading North up that way. This allowed me to try removing different mods to figure out hat was causing it. I was only able to get through by removing the Curse of Hircine. I wasn't interested enough in that mods to chase down why it was causing the crash, and so have left it out.

 

RTT on the other hand I was more interested in, and found that things would sometimes crash when mounting my horse. Further investigation found that it it would always crash when my Ruined-Tail companion was with me during a specific set of events, that being when I dismounted to kill a creature, then quickly mounted again. When a creature is killed, Ruined-Tail would bend down to the creature to check its pulse, during which if I mounted my horse he would attempt to summon his own horse at the same time as checking the creature, causing the crash. An edit to his script fixed the problem. Such detailed knowledge of the problem was only possible after investigating closely to figure out the actual cause of the crash.

 

I hope that you find a way to learn more about what is causing the problem for you around Leyawiin, so that a working solution can be obtained for you.

[Scythiss]

Finding a way to reliably cause the crash is often the hard part. Even without that though, there are ways to improve the situation.

 

Some mods like the Curse of Hircine and RTT are known to cause stability problems. What you can do is to disable several of these mods and continue to do stuff around Leyawiin. If things remain stable then it's a good bet that one of those mods were responsible.

 

Personally, I had stability issues with both, and found reliable ways to make the crash occur. With the Curse of Hircine I found that when exiting West from the Imperial City, that turning North from Weye would guarantee a crash. I could save at the road signs and guarantee a crash by heading North up that way. This allowed me to try removing different mods to figure out hat was causing it. I was only able to get through by removing the Curse of Hircine. I wasn't interested enough in that mods to chase down why it was causing the crash, and so have left it out.

 

RTT on the other hand I was more interested in, and found that things would sometimes crash when mounting my horse. Further investigation found that it it would always crash when my Ruined-Tail companion was with me during a specific set of events, that being when I dismounted to kill a creature, then quickly mounted again. When a creature is killed, Ruined-Tail would bend down to the creature to check its pulse, during which if I mounted my horse he would attempt to summon his own horse at the same time as checking the creature, causing the crash. An edit to his script fixed the problem. Such detailed knowledge of the problem was only possible after investigating closely to figure out the actual cause of the crash.

 

I hope that you find a way to learn more about what is causing the problem for you around Leyawiin, so that a working solution can be obtained for you.

I truly appreciate it bro, you sound like a really smart fella.  I'll take your advice and remove curse of hicirine, and also see if I can edit RTT to fix it.  It's very very hard for me to pinpoint the leyawinn crash lol it's very inconsistent.  How do you test for a stable game? I been running around from town to town in a gigantic circle and see if I crash.  I occasional crash in forests and running between cities it seems.  I don't know if my setting my speed to 255 and athletics to 255 ramps up my increase for CTD's.  How often is it normal for crashes to occur? also I've encountered a problem with ob xp update, it doesn't work with 4k users :(

 

any other mods on the list that gave you trouble?

Edited July 5, 2016 by Scythiss

[Scythiss]

Also this guy, talks about be able to combine his ENB and ENB boost on his description page.  Do you think it works? I tried it but not sure if I notice any less crashes or not.

[pmw57]

Also this guy, talks about be able to combine his ENB and ENB boost on his description page.  Do you think it works? I tried it but not sure if I notice any less crashes or not.

Something that you can do is to investigate the Event Viewer to find out what is causing the crash. Sometimes it's due to something outside of Oblivion that can be resolved.

[Scythiss]

Something that you can do is to investigate the Event Viewer to find out what is causing the crash. Sometimes it's due to something outside of Oblivion that can be resolved.

what is event viewer?

[pmw57]

what is event viewer?

The Event Viewer is what phone scammers get you to bring up, to prove that your computer has viruses.

It's also a place that has useful information about what caused a crash to occur.

 

Type "event viewer" in to the start menu, and in Window Logs > Application you should find info about what crashed Oblivion.

[Scythiss]

The Event Viewer is what phone scammers get you to bring up, to prove that your computer has viruses.

It's also a place that has useful information about what caused a crash to occur.

 

Type "event viewer" in to the start menu, and in Window Logs > Application you should find info about what crashed Oblivion.

Interesting will check it out.  How often would you say crashes occur? or what methods do you use to test oblivion? and have you been able to achieve a stable load order?

this is what I pulled up, have no idea what any of it means

 

Faulting application name: Oblivion.exe, version: 1.2.0.416, time stamp: 0x462392c7

Faulting module name: Oblivion.exe, version: 1.2.0.416, time stamp: 0x462392c7

Exception code: 0xc0000005

Fault offset: 0x0058131a

Faulting process id: 0x190c

Faulting application start time: 0x01d1d68385512887

Faulting application path: C:\Games\steamapps\common\Oblivion\Oblivion.exe

Faulting module path: C:\Games\steamapps\common\Oblivion\Oblivion.exe

Report Id: f2dd634d-61d0-4f37-a246-9793cfcc5177

Faulting package full name:

Faulting package-relative application ID:

[pmw57]

Interesting will check it out.  How often would you say crashes occur? or what methods do you use to test oblivion? and have you been able to achieve a stable load order?

this is what I pulled up, have no idea what any of it means

 

Faulting application name: Oblivion.exe, version: 1.2.0.416, time stamp: 0x462392c7

Faulting module name: Oblivion.exe, version: 1.2.0.416, time stamp: 0x462392c7

Exception code: 0xc0000005

Fault offset: 0x0058131a

Faulting process id: 0x190c

Faulting application start time: 0x01d1d68385512887

Faulting application path: C:\Games\steamapps\common\Oblivion\Oblivion.exe

Faulting module path: C:\Games\steamapps\common\Oblivion\Oblivion.exe

Report Id: f2dd634d-61d0-4f37-a246-9793cfcc5177

Faulting package full name:

Faulting package-relative application ID:

Good one. The faulting application and module are the same, so it's Oblivion itself losing control.

 

There's some good information on how to deal with this in the Oblivion Crashing in Windows 7 thread, at the following post: https://forum.uesp.net/viewtopic.php?p=310319&sid=ecb678b619d680590c375e99e5abfe2a#p310319

Edited July 5, 2016 by pmw57

[Scythiss]

Good one. The faulting application and module are the same, so it's Oblivion itself losing control.

 

There's some good information on how to deal with this in the Oblivion Crashing in Windows 7 thread, at the following post: https://forum.uesp.net/viewtopic.php?p=310319&sid=ecb678b619d680590c375e99e5abfe2a#p310319

hmmm I'm on windows 10.  I wonder what mod is causing oblivion to go crazy

[pmw57]

hmmm I'm on windows 10.  I wonder what mod is causing oblivion to go crazy

I'm on Windows 10 too. You can try turning some of the mods off (I do them in groups of around 5) until things stabilize, then enable them again.

 

The tricky thing for you is that it's an intermittent crash. Real progress can only be made when you figure out what needs to be done to guarantee a crash.

[Scythiss]

I'm on Windows 10 too. You can try turning some of the mods off (I do them in groups of around 5) until things stabilize, then enable them again.

 

The tricky thing for you is that it's an intermittent crash. Real progress can only be made when you figure out what needs to be done to guarantee a crash.

yeah ima def have to boil it down.  Did you come up with a stable load? is it okay if you share your mod list? also how often do you crash or do you think its normal to crash for oblivion.  I seems to crash every hour or so.

[pmw57]

yeah ima def have to boil it down.  Did you come up with a stable load? is it okay if you share your mod list? also how often do you crash or do you think its normal to crash for oblivion.  I seems to crash every hour or so.

 

Yes indeed, it was just a matter of finding and fixing issues when they arrived. The real challenge is turning it in to a reliable issue. And from there figuring out what's causing the problem in the first place. I now enjoy Oblivion without crashing for several gaming sessions.

 

I'm not sure if my mod list will help, but here it is.

 

Screenshots of my Installers and Mods tabs are found at:

 

https://i.imgur.com/S3Lg9ER.png

https://i.imgur.com/WigLUab.png

 

and my plugins.txt file is:

 

 

 

WindowLightingSystem.esp
Knights - Revelation.esm
Weapons Of Morrowind.esp
oblivion.esm
Immersive Weapons.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
BrotherhoodRenewed.esp
All Natural.esp
All Natural Base.esm
Skill Perk Descriptions.esp
Cobl Main.esm
Atmospheric Oblivion.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
Duke Patricks - Friendship Ring For Companion Detection.esp
Better Cities Resources.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
MTCExpandedVillages.esp
Better Cities .esp
LoadingScreensAddOn.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp
AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
All Natural - SI.esp
Immersive Interiors.esp
Immersive Interiors - Bravil.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
Frostcrag_LOD.esp
DropLitTorchOBSE.esp
Better Bell Sounds.esp
ElzMoreVoice.esp
Better Dungeons.esp
Storms & Sound.esp
OblivionReloaded.esp
All Natural - Real Lights.esp
Ravens and Seagulls.esp
Slof's Horses Base.esp
AliveWaters.esp
AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
Lynges Unlimited Death Reload Time.esp
AFK_PrayerIdles.esp
Creature Diversity.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
Weapons Of Morrowind - Daedric Crescent.esp
Ducks and Swans.esp
ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp
Reznod_Mannequin.esp
Populated Prisons.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
CapesandCloaks.esp
DarNifiedUI Config Addon.esp
Dynamic Map.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
xulAspenWood.esp
Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp
Skyrimesque Counts and Countesses.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
GTAesgaard.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
BrotherhoodRenewed - Oblivion XP Patch.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp
VHBloodlines 1.2.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
Knights - Revelation.esp
Summon Dremora Lord Saved.esp
Elz - No Floating Weapon.esp
TOTF.esp
RTT.esp
RTT-Weye Relocation Patch.esp
The Lost Spires.esp
Roads of Cyrodiil.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
xulEntiusGorge.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
xulRollingHills_EV.esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
xulRiverEthe.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
BC_Aristocrat_UL Patch.esp
xulBlackwoodForest.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
xulSnowdale.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp
xulJerallGlacier.esp
xulTheEasternPeaks.esp
UL Imperial Isle Prison Sewer Exit.esp
Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp
HUD Status Bars.esp
Storms & Sound - The Lost Spires.esp
Storms & Sound - Better Cities.esp
Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp
Alternative Beginnings.esp
Alternative Beginnings - Kvatch Intact.esp
AdvancedHealthRegen.esp
RD-HeavensWrath-v1-1-Easy.esp
RefScope.esp
Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp
Oblivion XP.esp
X.RC.RFM.esp
1em_Vilja.esp
Viljatwinbraids.esp
Cobl Races.esp
Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp
Better Cities Full.esp
Better Cities - IC Imperial Isle.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
Better Cities Chorrol - Immersive Interiors.esp
Better Cities - All Natural.esp
Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp
Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp
Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp
Think to Yourself.esp
Falling Leaves.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

Edited July 6, 2016 by GrantSP
Added spoiler tags

[Scythiss]

Yes indeed, it was just a matter of finding and fixing issues when they arrived. The real challenge is turning it in to a reliable issue. And from there figuring out what's causing the problem in the first place. I now enjoy Oblivion without crashing for several gaming sessions.

 

I'm not sure if my mod list will help, but here it is.

 

Screenshots of my Installers and Mods tabs are found at:

 

https://i.imgur.com/S3Lg9ER.png

https://i.imgur.com/WigLUab.png

 

and my plugins.txt file is:

 

 

 

WindowLightingSystem.esp
Knights - Revelation.esm
Weapons Of Morrowind.esp
oblivion.esm
Immersive Weapons.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
BrotherhoodRenewed.esp
All Natural.esp
All Natural Base.esm
Skill Perk Descriptions.esp
Cobl Main.esm
Atmospheric Oblivion.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
Duke Patricks - Friendship Ring For Companion Detection.esp
Better Cities Resources.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
MTCExpandedVillages.esp
Better Cities .esp
LoadingScreensAddOn.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp
AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
All Natural - SI.esp
Immersive Interiors.esp
Immersive Interiors - Bravil.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
Frostcrag_LOD.esp
DropLitTorchOBSE.esp
Better Bell Sounds.esp
ElzMoreVoice.esp
Better Dungeons.esp
Storms & Sound.esp
OblivionReloaded.esp
All Natural - Real Lights.esp
Ravens and Seagulls.esp
Slof's Horses Base.esp
AliveWaters.esp
AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
Lynges Unlimited Death Reload Time.esp
AFK_PrayerIdles.esp
Creature Diversity.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
Weapons Of Morrowind - Daedric Crescent.esp
Ducks and Swans.esp
ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp
Reznod_Mannequin.esp
Populated Prisons.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
CapesandCloaks.esp
DarNifiedUI Config Addon.esp
Dynamic Map.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
xulAspenWood.esp
Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp
Skyrimesque Counts and Countesses.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
GTAesgaard.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
BrotherhoodRenewed - Oblivion XP Patch.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp
VHBloodlines 1.2.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
Knights - Revelation.esp
Summon Dremora Lord Saved.esp
Elz - No Floating Weapon.esp
TOTF.esp
RTT.esp
RTT-Weye Relocation Patch.esp
The Lost Spires.esp
Roads of Cyrodiil.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
xulEntiusGorge.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
xulRollingHills_EV.esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
xulRiverEthe.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
BC_Aristocrat_UL Patch.esp
xulBlackwoodForest.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
xulSnowdale.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp
xulJerallGlacier.esp
xulTheEasternPeaks.esp
UL Imperial Isle Prison Sewer Exit.esp
Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp
HUD Status Bars.esp
Storms & Sound - The Lost Spires.esp
Storms & Sound - Better Cities.esp
Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp
Alternative Beginnings.esp
Alternative Beginnings - Kvatch Intact.esp
AdvancedHealthRegen.esp
RD-HeavensWrath-v1-1-Easy.esp
RefScope.esp
Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp
Oblivion XP.esp
X.RC.RFM.esp
1em_Vilja.esp
Viljatwinbraids.esp
Cobl Races.esp
Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp
Better Cities Full.esp
Better Cities - IC Imperial Isle.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
Better Cities Chorrol - Immersive Interiors.esp
Better Cities - All Natural.esp
Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp
Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp
Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp
Think to Yourself.esp
Falling Leaves.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

 

Odd, my setup is almost exactly the same with the exception of MOO, and even without MOO it still crashes

[Scythiss]

pmw57, any websites to tell me how to read the codes of event viewer? I have no idea what they mean

 

 

Faulting application name: Oblivion.exe, version: 1.2.0.416, time stamp: 0x462392c7
Faulting module name: Oblivion.exe, version: 1.2.0.416, time stamp: 0x462392c7
Exception code: 0xc000000d
Fault offset: 0x005881be
Faulting process id: 0x358
Faulting application start time: 0x01d1d8e3deadabdf
Faulting application path: C:\Games\steamapps\common\Oblivion\Oblivion.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Games\steamapps\common\Oblivion\Oblivion.exe
Report Id: a4ccb653-fd25-4205-8df9-1d5945575ac3
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:

[pmw57]

pmw57, any websites to tell me how to read the codes of event viewer? I have no idea what they mean

 

 

Faulting application name: Oblivion.exe, version: 1.2.0.416, time stamp: 0x462392c7

Faulting module name: Oblivion.exe, version: 1.2.0.416, time stamp: 0x462392c7

Exception code: 0xc000000d

Fault offset: 0x005881be

Faulting process id: 0x358

Faulting application start time: 0x01d1d8e3deadabdf

Faulting application path: C:\Games\steamapps\common\Oblivion\Oblivion.exe

Faulting module path: C:\Games\steamapps\common\Oblivion\Oblivion.exe

Report Id: a4ccb653-fd25-4205-8df9-1d5945575ac3

Faulting package full name:

Faulting package-relative application ID:

The two important parts are the Faulting application path, and the Faulting module path. The module is what caused the fault, which can sometimes be the graphics driver, or the antivirus program, or something else.

 

When the application and the module path are both Oblivion.exe, that means that the problem occurred from inside of Oblivion, where it has pointed to a memory location outside of where it's allowed to be, usually by a badly configured mod.

 

Your error does have something rather unique compared to other ones that are seen, in that it's an 0xc000000d exception, which usually means that some kind of pre-existing windows system file damage has caused the problem.

 

Details about this and a repair tool can be found at https://thewinwiki.org/the-exception-unknown-software-exception-0xc000000d/