hishutup Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) Use this Topic to post generic Oblivion questions when following any of the Oblivion guides. Be sure to check the FAQs. I will be updating it as questions are asked. I'll try to populate my Troubleshooting section on my FAQs page with common problems with Oblivion and Wrye Bash. Edited October 10, 2014 by hishutup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 pmw57 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 1 other crash I have is right by leywinnn when you exit out the back and head up north. I can pinpoint what is causing this crash as it's inconsistent, sometimes I crash around that area sometimes I don;t.Finding a way to reliably cause the crash is often the hard part. Even without that though, there are ways to improve the situation. Some mods like the Curse of Hircine and RTT are known to cause stability problems. What you can do is to disable several of these mods and continue to do stuff around Leyawiin. If things remain stable then it's a good bet that one of those mods were responsible. Personally, I had stability issues with both, and found reliable ways to make the crash occur. With the Curse of Hircine I found that when exiting West from the Imperial City, that turning North from Weye would guarantee a crash. I could save at the road signs and guarantee a crash by heading North up that way. This allowed me to try removing different mods to figure out hat was causing it. I was only able to get through by removing the Curse of Hircine. I wasn't interested enough in that mods to chase down why it was causing the crash, and so have left it out. RTT on the other hand I was more interested in, and found that things would sometimes crash when mounting my horse. Further investigation found that it it would always crash when my Ruined-Tail companion was with me during a specific set of events, that being when I dismounted to kill a creature, then quickly mounted again. When a creature is killed, Ruined-Tail would bend down to the creature to check its pulse, during which if I mounted my horse he would attempt to summon his own horse at the same time as checking the creature, causing the crash. An edit to his script fixed the problem. Such detailed knowledge of the problem was only possible after investigating closely to figure out the actual cause of the crash. I hope that you find a way to learn more about what is causing the problem for you around Leyawiin, so that a working solution can be obtained for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Scythiss Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) Finding a way to reliably cause the crash is often the hard part. Even without that though, there are ways to improve the situation. Some mods like the Curse of Hircine and RTT are known to cause stability problems. What you can do is to disable several of these mods and continue to do stuff around Leyawiin. If things remain stable then it's a good bet that one of those mods were responsible. Personally, I had stability issues with both, and found reliable ways to make the crash occur. With the Curse of Hircine I found that when exiting West from the Imperial City, that turning North from Weye would guarantee a crash. I could save at the road signs and guarantee a crash by heading North up that way. This allowed me to try removing different mods to figure out hat was causing it. I was only able to get through by removing the Curse of Hircine. I wasn't interested enough in that mods to chase down why it was causing the crash, and so have left it out. RTT on the other hand I was more interested in, and found that things would sometimes crash when mounting my horse. Further investigation found that it it would always crash when my Ruined-Tail companion was with me during a specific set of events, that being when I dismounted to kill a creature, then quickly mounted again. When a creature is killed, Ruined-Tail would bend down to the creature to check its pulse, during which if I mounted my horse he would attempt to summon his own horse at the same time as checking the creature, causing the crash. An edit to his script fixed the problem. Such detailed knowledge of the problem was only possible after investigating closely to figure out the actual cause of the crash. I hope that you find a way to learn more about what is causing the problem for you around Leyawiin, so that a working solution can be obtained for you.I truly appreciate it bro, you sound like a really smart fella. I'll take your advice and remove curse of hicirine, and also see if I can edit RTT to fix it. It's very very hard for me to pinpoint the leyawinn crash lol it's very inconsistent. How do you test for a stable game? I been running around from town to town in a gigantic circle and see if I crash. I occasional crash in forests and running between cities it seems. I don't know if my setting my speed to 255 and athletics to 255 ramps up my increase for CTD's. How often is it normal for crashes to occur? also I've encountered a problem with ob xp update, it doesn't work with 4k users :( any other mods on the list that gave you trouble? Edited July 5, 2016 by Scythiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Scythiss Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Also this guy, talks about be able to combine his ENB and ENB boost on his description page. Do you think it works? I tried it but not sure if I notice any less crashes or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 pmw57 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Also this guy, talks about be able to combine his ENB and ENB boost on his description page. Do you think it works? I tried it but not sure if I notice any less crashes or not.Something that you can do is to investigate the Event Viewer to find out what is causing the crash. Sometimes it's due to something outside of Oblivion that can be resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Scythiss Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Something that you can do is to investigate the Event Viewer to find out what is causing the crash. Sometimes it's due to something outside of Oblivion that can be resolved.what is event viewer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 pmw57 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 what is event viewer?The Event Viewer is what phone scammers get you to bring up, to prove that your computer has viruses.It's also a place that has useful information about what caused a crash to occur. Type "event viewer" in to the start menu, and in Window Logs > Application you should find info about what crashed Oblivion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Scythiss Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 The Event Viewer is what phone scammers get you to bring up, to prove that your computer has viruses.It's also a place that has useful information about what caused a crash to occur. Type "event viewer" in to the start menu, and in Window Logs > Application you should find info about what crashed Oblivion.Interesting will check it out. How often would you say crashes occur? or what methods do you use to test oblivion? and have you been able to achieve a stable load order?this is what I pulled up, have no idea what any of it means Faulting application name: Oblivion.exe, version: 1.2.0.416, time stamp: 0x462392c7Faulting module name: Oblivion.exe, version: 1.2.0.416, time stamp: 0x462392c7Exception code: 0xc0000005Fault offset: 0x0058131aFaulting process id: 0x190cFaulting application start time: 0x01d1d68385512887Faulting application path: C:\Games\steamapps\common\Oblivion\Oblivion.exeFaulting module path: C:\Games\steamapps\common\Oblivion\Oblivion.exeReport Id: f2dd634d-61d0-4f37-a246-9793cfcc5177Faulting package full name:Faulting package-relative application ID: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 pmw57 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) Interesting will check it out. How often would you say crashes occur? or what methods do you use to test oblivion? and have you been able to achieve a stable load order?this is what I pulled up, have no idea what any of it means Faulting application name: Oblivion.exe, version: 1.2.0.416, time stamp: 0x462392c7Faulting module name: Oblivion.exe, version: 1.2.0.416, time stamp: 0x462392c7Exception code: 0xc0000005Fault offset: 0x0058131aFaulting process id: 0x190cFaulting application start time: 0x01d1d68385512887Faulting application path: C:\Games\steamapps\common\Oblivion\Oblivion.exeFaulting module path: C:\Games\steamapps\common\Oblivion\Oblivion.exeReport Id: f2dd634d-61d0-4f37-a246-9793cfcc5177Faulting package full name:Faulting package-relative application ID:Good one. The faulting application and module are the same, so it's Oblivion itself losing control. There's some good information on how to deal with this in the Oblivion Crashing in Windows 7 thread, at the following post: https://forum.uesp.net/viewtopic.php?p=310319&sid=ecb678b619d680590c375e99e5abfe2a#p310319 Edited July 5, 2016 by pmw57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Scythiss Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Good one. The faulting application and module are the same, so it's Oblivion itself losing control. There's some good information on how to deal with this in the Oblivion Crashing in Windows 7 thread, at the following post: https://forum.uesp.net/viewtopic.php?p=310319&sid=ecb678b619d680590c375e99e5abfe2a#p310319hmmm I'm on windows 10. I wonder what mod is causing oblivion to go crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 pmw57 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 hmmm I'm on windows 10. I wonder what mod is causing oblivion to go crazyI'm on Windows 10 too. You can try turning some of the mods off (I do them in groups of around 5) until things stabilize, then enable them again. The tricky thing for you is that it's an intermittent crash. Real progress can only be made when you figure out what needs to be done to guarantee a crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Scythiss Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 I'm on Windows 10 too. You can try turning some of the mods off (I do them in groups of around 5) until things stabilize, then enable them again. The tricky thing for you is that it's an intermittent crash. Real progress can only be made when you figure out what needs to be done to guarantee a crash.yeah ima def have to boil it down. Did you come up with a stable load? is it okay if you share your mod list? also how often do you crash or do you think its normal to crash for oblivion. I seems to crash every hour or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 pmw57 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) yeah ima def have to boil it down. Did you come up with a stable load? is it okay if you share your mod list? also how often do you crash or do you think its normal to crash for oblivion. I seems to crash every hour or so. Yes indeed, it was just a matter of finding and fixing issues when they arrived. The real challenge is turning it in to a reliable issue. And from there figuring out what's causing the problem in the first place. I now enjoy Oblivion without crashing for several gaming sessions. I'm not sure if my mod list will help, but here it is. Screenshots of my Installers and Mods tabs are found at: https://i.imgur.com/S3Lg9ER.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/WigLUab.png and my plugins.txt file is: WindowLightingSystem.esp Knights - Revelation.esm Weapons Of Morrowind.esp oblivion.esm Immersive Weapons.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp BrotherhoodRenewed.esp All Natural.esp All Natural Base.esm Skill Perk Descriptions.esp Cobl Main.esm Atmospheric Oblivion.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp Duke Patricks - Friendship Ring For Companion Detection.esp Better Cities Resources.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp MTCExpandedVillages.esp Better Cities .esp LoadingScreensAddOn.esp Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp All Natural - SI.esp Immersive Interiors.esp Immersive Interiors - Bravil.esp DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp Frostcrag_LOD.esp DropLitTorchOBSE.esp Better Bell Sounds.esp ElzMoreVoice.esp Better Dungeons.esp Storms & Sound.esp OblivionReloaded.esp All Natural - Real Lights.esp Ravens and Seagulls.esp Slof's Horses Base.esp AliveWaters.esp AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp Lynges Unlimited Death Reload Time.esp AFK_PrayerIdles.esp Creature Diversity.esp DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp Book Jackets Oblivion.esp Weapons Of Morrowind - Daedric Crescent.esp Ducks and Swans.esp ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp Reznod_Mannequin.esp Populated Prisons.esp xulFallenleafEverglade.esp CapesandCloaks.esp DarNifiedUI Config Addon.esp Dynamic Map.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp DLCThievesDen.esp xulAspenWood.esp Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp Skyrimesque Counts and Countesses.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp GTAesgaard.esp Cobl Glue.esp Cobl Si.esp xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp BrotherhoodRenewed - Oblivion XP Patch.esp Kvatch Rebuilt.esp Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp VHBloodlines 1.2.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp Knights.esp Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp Knights - Revelation.esp Summon Dremora Lord Saved.esp Elz - No Floating Weapon.esp TOTF.esp RTT.esp RTT-Weye Relocation Patch.esp The Lost Spires.esp Roads of Cyrodiil.esp xuldarkforest.esp xulStendarrValley.esp xulTheHeath.esp xulEntiusGorge.esp xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp xulChorrolHinterland.esp xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp xulBravilBarrowfields.esp xulLushWoodlands.esp xulAncientYews.esp xulAncientRedwoods.esp xulCloudtopMountains.esp xulArriusCreek.esp xulPatch_AY_AC.esp xulSkingradOutskirts.esp xulRollingHills_EV.esp xulPantherRiver.esp xulRiverEthe.esp xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp xulImperialIsle.esp BC_Aristocrat_UL Patch.esp xulBlackwoodForest.esp xulCheydinhalFalls.esp TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp xulSnowdale.esp Harvest [Flora].esp xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp xulJerallGlacier.esp xulTheEasternPeaks.esp UL Imperial Isle Prison Sewer Exit.esp Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp HUD Status Bars.esp Storms & Sound - The Lost Spires.esp Storms & Sound - Better Cities.esp Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp Alternative Beginnings.esp Alternative Beginnings - Kvatch Intact.esp AdvancedHealthRegen.esp RD-HeavensWrath-v1-1-Easy.esp RefScope.esp Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp Oblivion XP.esp X.RC.RFM.esp 1em_Vilja.esp Viljatwinbraids.esp Cobl Races.esp Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp Better Cities Full.esp Better Cities - IC Imperial Isle.esp Better Imperial City.esp Better Cities Chorrol - Immersive Interiors.esp Better Cities - All Natural.esp Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp Think to Yourself.esp Falling Leaves.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp Edited July 6, 2016 by GrantSP Added spoiler tags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Scythiss Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Yes indeed, it was just a matter of finding and fixing issues when they arrived. The real challenge is turning it in to a reliable issue. And from there figuring out what's causing the problem in the first place. I now enjoy Oblivion without crashing for several gaming sessions. I'm not sure if my mod list will help, but here it is. Screenshots of my Installers and Mods tabs are found at: https://i.imgur.com/S3Lg9ER.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/WigLUab.png and my plugins.txt file is: WindowLightingSystem.esp Knights - Revelation.esm Weapons Of Morrowind.esp oblivion.esm Immersive Weapons.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp BrotherhoodRenewed.esp All Natural.esp All Natural Base.esm Skill Perk Descriptions.esp Cobl Main.esm Atmospheric Oblivion.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp Duke Patricks - Friendship Ring For Companion Detection.esp Better Cities Resources.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp MTCExpandedVillages.esp Better Cities .esp LoadingScreensAddOn.esp Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp All Natural - SI.esp Immersive Interiors.esp Immersive Interiors - Bravil.esp DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp Frostcrag_LOD.esp DropLitTorchOBSE.esp Better Bell Sounds.esp ElzMoreVoice.esp Better Dungeons.esp Storms & Sound.esp OblivionReloaded.esp All Natural - Real Lights.esp Ravens and Seagulls.esp Slof's Horses Base.esp AliveWaters.esp AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp Lynges Unlimited Death Reload Time.esp AFK_PrayerIdles.esp Creature Diversity.esp DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp Book Jackets Oblivion.esp Weapons Of Morrowind - Daedric Crescent.esp Ducks and Swans.esp ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp Reznod_Mannequin.esp Populated Prisons.esp xulFallenleafEverglade.esp CapesandCloaks.esp DarNifiedUI Config Addon.esp Dynamic Map.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp DLCThievesDen.esp xulAspenWood.esp Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp Skyrimesque Counts and Countesses.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp GTAesgaard.esp Cobl Glue.esp Cobl Si.esp xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp BrotherhoodRenewed - Oblivion XP Patch.esp Kvatch Rebuilt.esp Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp VHBloodlines 1.2.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp Knights.esp Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp Knights - Revelation.esp Summon Dremora Lord Saved.esp Elz - No Floating Weapon.esp TOTF.esp RTT.esp RTT-Weye Relocation Patch.esp The Lost Spires.esp Roads of Cyrodiil.esp xuldarkforest.esp xulStendarrValley.esp xulTheHeath.esp xulEntiusGorge.esp xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp xulChorrolHinterland.esp xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp xulBravilBarrowfields.esp xulLushWoodlands.esp xulAncientYews.esp xulAncientRedwoods.esp xulCloudtopMountains.esp xulArriusCreek.esp xulPatch_AY_AC.esp xulSkingradOutskirts.esp xulRollingHills_EV.esp xulPantherRiver.esp xulRiverEthe.esp xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp xulImperialIsle.esp BC_Aristocrat_UL Patch.esp xulBlackwoodForest.esp xulCheydinhalFalls.esp TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp xulSnowdale.esp Harvest [Flora].esp xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp xulJerallGlacier.esp xulTheEasternPeaks.esp UL Imperial Isle Prison Sewer Exit.esp Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp HUD Status Bars.esp Storms & Sound - The Lost Spires.esp Storms & Sound - Better Cities.esp Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp Alternative Beginnings.esp Alternative Beginnings - Kvatch Intact.esp AdvancedHealthRegen.esp RD-HeavensWrath-v1-1-Easy.esp RefScope.esp Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp Oblivion XP.esp X.RC.RFM.esp 1em_Vilja.esp Viljatwinbraids.esp Cobl Races.esp Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp Better Cities Full.esp Better Cities - IC Imperial Isle.esp Better Imperial City.esp Better Cities Chorrol - Immersive Interiors.esp Better Cities - All Natural.esp Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp Think to Yourself.esp Falling Leaves.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp Odd, my setup is almost exactly the same with the exception of MOO, and even without MOO it still crashes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Scythiss Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 pmw57, any websites to tell me how to read the codes of event viewer? I have no idea what they mean Faulting application name: Oblivion.exe, version: 1.2.0.416, time stamp: 0x462392c7Faulting module name: Oblivion.exe, version: 1.2.0.416, time stamp: 0x462392c7Exception code: 0xc000000dFault offset: 0x005881beFaulting process id: 0x358Faulting application start time: 0x01d1d8e3deadabdfFaulting application path: C:\Games\steamapps\common\Oblivion\Oblivion.exeFaulting module path: C:\Games\steamapps\common\Oblivion\Oblivion.exeReport Id: a4ccb653-fd25-4205-8df9-1d5945575ac3Faulting package full name:Faulting package-relative application ID: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 pmw57 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 pmw57, any websites to tell me how to read the codes of event viewer? I have no idea what they mean Faulting application name: Oblivion.exe, version: 1.2.0.416, time stamp: 0x462392c7Faulting module name: Oblivion.exe, version: 1.2.0.416, time stamp: 0x462392c7Exception code: 0xc000000dFault offset: 0x005881beFaulting process id: 0x358Faulting application start time: 0x01d1d8e3deadabdfFaulting application path: C:\Games\steamapps\common\Oblivion\Oblivion.exeFaulting module path: C:\Games\steamapps\common\Oblivion\Oblivion.exeReport Id: a4ccb653-fd25-4205-8df9-1d5945575ac3Faulting package full name:Faulting package-relative application ID:The two important parts are the Faulting application path, and the Faulting module path. The module is what caused the fault, which can sometimes be the graphics driver, or the antivirus program, or something else. When the application and the module path are both Oblivion.exe, that means that the problem occurred from inside of Oblivion, where it has pointed to a memory location outside of where it's allowed to be, usually by a badly configured mod. Your error does have something rather unique compared to other ones that are seen, in that it's an 0xc000000d exception, which usually means that some kind of pre-existing windows system file damage has caused the problem. Details about this and a repair tool can be found at https://thewinwiki.org/the-exception-unknown-software-exception-0xc000000d/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Use this Topic to post generic Oblivion questions when following any of the Oblivion guides.
Be sure to check the FAQs. I will be updating it as questions are asked.
I'll try to populate my Troubleshooting section on my FAQs page with common problems with Oblivion and Wrye Bash.
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lower heap size until game starts.
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OOO does not like the new version of OR. Crashes from horn cave to ill omen every time, Just a heads up for everyone.
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It applies a custom sort to the list. See https://boss-developers.github.io/BOSS%20Readme.html#gui-urm for details on how to use it.
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