ACCEPTED Nemesis Unlimited Behavior Engine (by Shikyo Kira)

[NuroDragonfly]

Peoples, no plugin is being created.

LOOT states not to use both this and FNIS at the same time - could this be why there is no plugin being created?

EDIT: de-selected FNIS in left panel, Nemesis has thus created its own FNIS.esp - is this now correct? Never used either until this STEP guide im now testing in full...

Edited December 19, 2021 by NuroDragonfly
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[Mousetick]

45 minutes ago, NuroDragonfly said:

EDIT: de-selected FNIS in left panel, Nemesis has thus created its own FNIS.esp - is this now correct? Never used either until this STEP guide im now testing in full...

As you have just discovered: FNIS and Nemesis are mutually exclusive.

Don't try to mix the 1.0 and 2.0 guides into your own "1.5". Pick one and stick to it. They are each a complete and cohesive set, they're not meant to be mixed and matched.

Also: please try and stop addressing your readers as "peoples" in all your posts on this forum. It's about as annoying as being called "dudes". Perhaps English is not your first language. If you must use a name to call your readers, consider using the term "folks", which is friendlier. Thanks.

[NuroDragonfly]

Sorry, it not meant as an insult, it how i speak in the real world if i dont know peoples real names...

And not being from the USA, using 'folks' has the same equivalency here in Australia...if that is what your referring too, as thats also a guess, but it is the only use i know of, as its not used in the UK, Canada, New Zealand, as far as im aware of...

Edited December 20, 2021 by NuroDragonfly

[Mousetick]

10 hours ago, NuroDragonfly said:

Sorry, it not meant as an insult, it how i speak in the real world if i dont know peoples real names...

And not being from the USA, using 'folks' has the same equivalency here in Australia...if that is what your referring too, as thats also a guess, but it is the only use i know of, as its not used in the UK, Canada, New Zealand, as far as im aware of...

Not to worry, it was not taken as an insult or an offense  It's not as much the term 'peoples' itself that's grating, as the way it's used in a direct call: it comes off as a little "blunt". This is detrimental if you're seeking information or help, rather than just complaining loudly about something. Simply saying "Hi people, ..." for example would be more friendly and less intimidating.

As far as I know, 'folks' is about as common in British English as in American English.

[z929669]

All's well. I personally take 'peoples' as synonymous with 'folks', because we do have a lot of non-native-US-English speakers on these forums. As long as posts are generally respectful, it doesn't matter.

[NuroDragonfly]

All good, Nemesis functioned correctly - its other maters ill post appropriately that are now of concern, but this was my first time utilising either Nemesis or FNIS, so was very blind going in.

[z929669]

I vote to drop this mod in 2.1.0, since we are disabling the XP32 plugin

[DoubleYou]

42 minutes ago, z929669 said:

I vote to drop this mod in 2.1.0, since we are disabling the XP32 plugin

Why would dropping the plugin make this obsolete? Don't we still need this?

[z929669]

27 minutes ago, DoubleYou said:

Why would dropping the plugin make this obsolete? Don't we still need this?

Well, we didn't, but I suppose we do for Ice Skating Fixed for Real

[DoubleYou]

I added version instructions for the 2.1.0 guide to tick the Ice Skating Fixed for Real box.

[ButchDiavolo]

A genuine question: Can someone explain to me why we should use this abandoned, dead in the water, hot mess? Is it just for Ice Skating Fixed?

It hasn't been worked on/ updated for 2 years (except an update to the readme). The mod team don't respond to bug reports (besides claiming "User error"). I for one never got it to work properly and still use FNIS, which just works out of the box and is so much simpler to use. I have also never noticed any "ice skating".

[z929669]

18 minutes ago, ButchDiavolo said:

A genuine question: Can someone explain to me why we should use this abandoned, dead in the water, hot mess? Is it just for Ice Skating Fixed?

It hasn't been worked on/ updated for 2 years (except an update to the readme). The mod team don't respond to bug reports (besides claiming "User error"). I for one never got it to work properly and still use FNIS, which just works out of the box and is so much simpler to use. I have also never noticed any "ice skating".

It works fine for me, but I really don't think we need it. It's mostly here for establishing a baseline setup for those that will add other animations onto Step and now for that one mod.

That said, I do think we should move back to FNIS if we ever consider adding in the badly-needed animations this game is lacking. I'd also be interested in using DAR and several of the mods it links from its Description.

These are a few animation mods we should consider at some point (not for 2.2.0 though, or we'll be waiting a while):

• EVG Conditional Idles
• EVG Animation Variance
• Relaxed Sneak Animations
• Pretty Sit Idles SE
• Animated Eating Redux SE
• Pretty Combat Animations

[CorneliusC]

It is a good question, and while the 'ice skating' bug is noticeable, it is at the same time negligable. So STEP in its current setup, without the 'ice skating' bug fix would work without Nemesis, i suppose?

Edited December 8, 2022 by CorneliusC

[z929669]

That's the only mod that needs animation update I think, and it's a small thing.

Nemisis works fine, but it does have support, maintenance, and possibly forward-compatibility issues because of that.

[elenhil]

Curious. I've seen it phrased almost completely the other way around on Nexusmods: who, apart from those interested in NSFW stuff (which is apparently not Nemesis compatible), would prefer FNIS over Nemesis?