TechAngel85 Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 No, it's because sine of the images that were in here were not safe for work. That and some of the links. STEP will never have NSFW content.
EssArrBee Posted June 23, 2015 Author Posted June 23, 2015 Alt is probably just thinking about this could help his Alt Navetsea mod. That's what use for a body replacer since I like the UNP body.
alt3rn1ty Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 Alt is probably just thinking about this could help his Alt Navetsea mod.No not at all, I would rather have a really well done nude body mod which does not require all the vanilla armour and clothing redone for it, thats the major downfall of all body mods. It was the same in Oblivion, and Morrowind. I would just love to have vanilla bodies redone nude, ( as you would expect the natives to be, not for glam or porn reasons ), and so there would be no need for the whole issue of Armour and clothing adjustments to fit it. Nor would there be any reason for Armour and Clothing to be redone using Unofficial patch fixes to the same meshes carried forward before the body mod adjustments were made - Which given how awkward it is apparently to adjust each one is unlikely to be redone ( especially when the experts on such matters like Exeter are unlikely to appear again - so all UNP armour and clothing meshes will forever remain as they are ).
z929669 Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 I appreciate you asking but I will not do a nude.... speaking of nude bodies and STEP's position, if nipples and pubic detail is omitted, then it is really a "not nude" nude and gives the same effect alt3rn1ty (and the rest of us) want without the potentially offensive issues. It's like a skin-colored spandex singlesuit and serves all needs.
crystaldragon141 Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 ... speaking of nude bodies and STEP's position, if nipples and pubic detail is omitted, then it is really a "not nude" nude and gives the same effect alt3rn1ty (and the rest of us) want without the potentially offensive issues. It's like a skin-colored spandex singlesuit and serves all needs.That being the case I'm happy to do that! Honestly I'd love to bag that terrible fake bikini top did you know the model doesn't even have boobs under it o_0. Also apparently bethesDuh thinks that women were self masochistic because the bottom strap litterally penetrates about 1/2" into the torso! I'm pretty sure I've figured out what I did/didn't do wrong on the other meshes. I'll fix it tonight and reupload it. If it's working I'll start work on the mannequin nude.
kryptopyr Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 ... speaking of nude bodies and STEP's position, if nipples and pubic detail is omitted, then it is really a "not nude" nude and gives the same effect alt3rn1ty (and the rest of us) want without the potentially offensive issues. It's like a skin-colored spandex singlesuit and serves all needs.I may have misunderstood this, but are you saying that STEP's female body will not only be a naked female, but a mutilated naked female? Is STEP also going to have a naked male body lacking a penis and testicles? Because otherwise this option will create a major inconsistency in the game. Personally, I won't use any body replacer that doesn't have some form of undergarments. I don't have a problem with nudity in and of itself, but I find it incredibly unrealistic and immersion-breaking to loot armor from an NPC and essentially strip them naked in the process (particularly if it's only the females and not the males who are naked). "The natives" of Skyrim would have almost certainly worn undergarments, both for warmth and added protection. Even peasants in ancient and medieval times wore garments that consisted of multiple layers. Women in a great many cultures have wrapped their breasts for comfort. Undergarments are not a modern invention. The only reason I see to have a naked female body in Skyrim is for gratuitous reasons. And mutilating the body by removing the "objectionable" sexual bits is something I find incredibly offensive and actually quite disturbing. If STEP is going to have a naked female body, at least make it a biologically accurate one. However, I'd very much prefer to see STEP stand by its mandate and not vary that drastically from both biology, history, and the convention already established by the vanilla game. Could the bra and underwear not be improved in addition to the body so that it looks better and if anything could perhaps be more historically accurate?
DoubleYou Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 I think you misunderstood Z. I think he's saying that we don't need a naked female body, and therefore crystaldragon's model will work great--if it works.
crystaldragon141 Posted June 24, 2015 Posted June 24, 2015 Alright peeps let's try this again.VanillaFemaleFixed_20150623v01 I may have misunderstood this, but are you saying that STEP's female body will not only be a naked female, but a mutilated naked female? Is STEP also going to have a naked male body lacking a penis and testicles? Because otherwise this option will create a major inconsistency in the game. Personally, I won't use any body replacer that doesn't have some form of undergarments. I don't have a problem with nudity in and of itself, but I find it incredibly unrealistic and immersion-breaking to loot armor from an NPC and essentially strip them naked in the process (particularly if it's only the females and not the males who are naked). "The natives" of Skyrim would have almost certainly worn undergarments, both for warmth and added protection. Even peasants in ancient and medieval times wore garments that consisted of multiple layers. Women in a great many cultures have wrapped their breasts for comfort. Undergarments are not a modern invention. The only reason I see to have a naked female body in Skyrim is for gratuitous reasons. And mutilating the body by removing the "objectionable" sexual bits is something I find incredibly offensive and actually quite disturbing. If STEP is going to have a naked female body, at least make it a biologically accurate one. However, I'd very much prefer to see STEP stand by its mandate and not vary that drastically from both biology, history, and the convention already established by the vanilla game. Could the bra and underwear not be improved in addition to the body so that it looks better and if anything could perhaps be more historically accurate?So for one the vanilla meshs don't actually have any genitals to strip away. However I have been thinking along your lines of improving the "underwear". After doing some research (into what is a very uncertain field) The existing "underwear" isn't too far from historically accurate. I have some ideas of how I would change the top so it looks less like a halter bikini and make it more of something a working/fighting woman would wear.
crystaldragon141 Posted June 24, 2015 Posted June 24, 2015 That's what I'm trying to figure out... xPI would love someone to tell me haha!
TechAngel85 Posted June 24, 2015 Posted June 24, 2015 If I could start the game without clothing I would. But if it's a rendering issue then it would still crash on me anyway. Doesn't the armor replace the body mesh since the body is "built into" the armor? I'll at least look into it. I'm clueless about most mesh stuff but need to learn.
crystaldragon141 Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Haven't had a chance to look at it but I plan to today. I'm gonna take a look at the unp/cbbe/whatever to see if I can figure anything out via context. I feel like there is something I'm missing.
TechAngel85 Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 I'd still like to compare against the vanilla originals in Nifskope to make sure nothing is missing too, but you may have already done that.
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