z929669 Posted January 12, 2014 Posted January 12, 2014 Discussion thread: Better Males by Chris57 and FavoredSoul Wiki Link NSFW Mod Page Direct links to SFW mods for testing are below. Grab the assets directly using the links below in order to avoid any NSFW web pages. STEP only recommends the 'Underwear - Default' body, since this is in the vanilla 'SFW' style. Geonox Faces (includes male Cover Kajiits already included in STEP) Underwear - Default These are texture/mesh improvements for male characters, and thus fit the STEP Mandates Accepted for STEP:Core 2.2.9
Spock Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 Sorry, I really don't like them. [edit]Sorry, after a second look my comment came of as a little sharp. I just think those bodies look way too much like an iron pumper's. Not that lifting some weights and look after your body is a bad thing but this is a little immersion breaking for me.
Aiyen Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 So you think running about slaying dragons wont produce a body like that? ;P I jest! however remember that you can alter the arms size when making a new char... this can make your chars look quite whimpy and mage like as well.
z929669 Posted January 13, 2014 Author Posted January 13, 2014 This is just a combined fix for the male meshes mostly, with some texture tweaks, etc. There are several options with the mod, but a muscular build was already included in vanilla, so that argument is moot: Vanilla Nord            Better Males Nord I personally like the more rugged vanilla face though in this case.
Spock Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 Well, I think there is a huge difference between an athletes' body and a pumper's body. But you're right, vanilla has steroid necks too...
torminater Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 I actually like vanilla better in all aspects (stylewise) o_O hairier, dirtier and more weathered. If there was a choice in the creation menu to alter those things, that'ld be spot-on.
rootsrat Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 I actually like vanilla better in all aspects (stylewise) o_Ohairier, dirtier and more weathered. +1 I agree. Matter of preference I guess. Do you prefer to have your character more rough-looking or clean, after-shower look? Due to the game style I prefer the former.
Aiyen Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 Think we should remain clear on what we are talking about... textures or meshes! ;) The dirty look is entirely down to texture. The real question is how much muscle mass you want your char to have.
TechAngel85 Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 I agree. I prefer the vanilla version. As far as I can see, there is little to no mesh fixes (maybe slightly more defined muscle) unless we use the nude version and then I would have to ask...why? I mainly just see different textures which is strictly a matter of preference on bodies unless they stay true to vanilla and is why we don't include a lot of body replacers in STEP. With that said, I use a few skin textures myself, but they are textures and not true to vanilla: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/27815/?
torminater Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 To really evaluate the work of this mod, we'ld need a >1080p comparison video with a 360° demo A) ingame B) with NIFskope. Either that, or sb who know their way around meshes have a look at this and say yay or nay.
z929669 Posted January 13, 2014 Author Posted January 13, 2014 this mod allows for dirty face and rough complection as well as variance in mass/muscle, so it is customizeable. The main point is that there are several fixes in this mod that incorporate other fixes to male mesh (read the details on the mod page and the revised mesh ... see mod description). I think it has Xenius stuff and better male feet already incorporated.
Smile44 Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 I agree Z, it fixes lots of things and is fully customizable so no real issues. With the SFW option you have a much better rendered male shape, up close there can be some unnatural shaping in the vanilla bodies particularly in the arms and of course feet. Just meshes and textures so sling it in. :)
TechAngel85 Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 From the description, it's a bunch of meshes tweaked and put into one. There's no harm in adding it if there is a vanilla friendlier option which we'll probably need to figure out, especially if this is going into Core. On another note, let me just say that looking through the author and user submitted pics this mod is just...weird. Honestly, what reason do you have for a nude male pc or npc running around slinging his shlong here and there? There's even a picture of two characters appearing to "enjoying their guard duty". Which I have nothing against what-so-ever...it's just strange to see nude men running about in a game.
Neovalen Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 From the description, it's a bunch of meshes tweaked and put into one. There's no harm in adding it if there is a vanilla friendlier option which we'll probably need to figure out, especially if this is going into Core. On another note, let me just say that looking through the author and user submitted pics this mod is just...weird. Honestly, what reason do you have for a nude male pc or npc running around slinging his shlong here and there? There's even a picture of two characters appearing to "enjoying their guard duty". Which I have nothing against what-so-ever...it's just strange to see nude men running about in a game. Why? For the joy of a naked courier running up to you saying: "I have a package for you, your eyes only!". :) Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk 1
Smile44 Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) From the description, it's a bunch of meshes tweaked and put into one. There's no harm in adding it if there is a vanilla friendlier option which we'll probably need to figure out, especially if this is going into Core.On another note, let me just say that looking through the author and user submitted pics this mod is just...weird. Honestly, what reason do you have for a nude male pc or npc running around slinging his shlong here and there? There's even a picture of two characters appearing to "enjoying their guard duty". Which I have nothing against what-so-ever...it's just strange to see nude men running about in a game.Why? For the joy of a naked courier running up to you saying: "I have a package for you, your eyes only!". :)Sent from my XT907 using TapatalkYou've hit the nail on the head there Neo, so to speak. Edited August 23, 2014 by Smile44
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