Rune11 Posted November 17, 2013 Author Posted November 17, 2013 Thus far, after about 20 levels of using Safety Load on a somewhat modified Skyrim Revisited install (read: Skyrim Revisited plus a bunch more mods), I still have yet to get even a single ILS. Yes, I do have the occasional CTD, but these don't even REMOTELY begin to approach how aggravating and game blocking the ILSs were. I suppose if a person never has ILS problems in the first place, then there is no need for Safety Load as it would probably just increase CTDs. But if you DO have ILS problems, it is absolutely worth it. I have never had this stable of a modded Skyrim build, and it is also the most heavily modded one I have ever had. Just throwing my opinion in after having used it for many hours now. Maybe it shouldn't be a part of core STEP or anything, but I think it should certainly be a recommended option for those wanting to modify beyond the core STEP setup. Edit: I haven't seen it mentioned yet, but it should be noted that one thing kapaer implemented was for Safety Load to CTD upon detection of an unfixable ILS...a preferable alternative to sitting on a load screen forever, waiting to see if it loads or not. This could explain some of the increased CTDs.
phazer11 Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 I'm fairly sure many of the people having problems with Safety load are also using other SKSE plugins that may be conflicting.You know... I wonderif it has to do with the position in the load order. You know the 128 plugin rule that was posted over on one of the forums.
DoYouEvenModBro Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 I'm fairly sure many of the people having problems with Safety load are also using other SKSE plugins that may be conflicting.You know... I wonderif it has to do with the position in the load order. You know the 128 plugin rule that was posted over on one of the forums.I've had no problems with Safety Load and I've let BOSS sort it in the Load Order. Hopefully that helps. I don't remember who said it but someone before mentioned that the people reporting no problems tend to have 3gb of VRAM or more. I have a 7970 3gb so maybe there is some truth to that. The people I see reporting problems also tend to have 1 or 2 gb of VRAM.
DoYouEvenModBro Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 HA, guess I spoke too soon. I'm now getting CTDs when bringing up the Skyrim map. Only happens in some places.
DoYouEvenModBro Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 The author seems unwilling to further develop his mod. In fact, it says on the mod page "If you still got problems after setting .ini, you cannot use this mod... Sorry." Too bad the author can't hand this mod over to someone else willing to work on it. He hasn't even explained how the mod works...extremely frustrating.
WilliamImm Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 I just asked him via private message to either give the source code to a high-level engine wizard (Boris, Altimor, and/or shadeMe), or to just provide the source code in a separate download.
DoYouEvenModBro Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 I just asked him via private message to either give the source code to a high-level engine wizard (Boris, Altimor, and/or shadeMe), or to just provide the source code in a separate download. Sweet. Thanks. Let me know if he agrees to it.
Crimson13 Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 HA' date=' guess I spoke too soon. I'm now getting CTDs when bringing up the Skyrim map. Only happens in some places.[/quote']Same here, your previous post about the 1/2 GB video cards might be true for me as well. I've got a GTX 660 Ti so I'm within the 2gb range. I do like Safety Load, I haven't had a IFL since using it. Unfortunately it does seem like I'm trading one problem for another, I've been CTD quite a bit and doing things that bring up the map or a menu sometimes causes crashes. I hope that the author let's WilliamImm or others take a crack at it, the way it is now...yeah, thinking about not using it.
DoYouEvenModBro Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 I only get the map CTD sometimes. They're are infrequent enough where I still want to use Safety Load. I used to freeze A LOT before using it and I haven't had one ILS/Freeze since I started using it. If the menu CTDs become more frequent then I will remove Safety Load.
Moragg Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 There could still be VRAM problems - I hit 2.9GB on ugrids 5, but that is in Wyrmstooth so I'm not sure if that's representative of the rest of Skyrim.
EssArrBee Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 Yeah I get that Wyrmstooth spike on the part after leaving Wyrmstooth Temple and going back to the mining town. I can't even get back to the town before I get a memory limit crash. I used to get an ILS on the load screen after using that dwemer elevator, but now I don't. I think that one section of Wyrmstooth is just loading to much to play with a bunch of mods.
Moragg Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 I thought that was uncharacteristically high, but with that much loaded I doubt I could live without SafetyLoad. ILS is such a game-breaker it's ridiculous, and losing MemInfo isn't a loss as it means I pay more attention to the game than the fps counter. Does anyone know what kind of VRAM boost ugrids 7 needs? I want to try it to reduce pop-in (really bad when riding on a horse) but don't want to run into VRAM limitations just after I went from 2GB Tahiti LE to 3GB Tahiti Pro.
DoYouEvenModBro Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 Does changing ugrids from 5 to 7 really look that much better? I'm dropping to 23 fps around some parts of the Skyrim Map. I don't think I can afford another performance hit...unless going from 5 to 7 doesn't really lower fps.
Moragg Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 It should drop performance noticably, I'm going to test it but I have a backup save folder just in case. Nothing for it but to try, I'm hoping SafetyLoad will make life easier on my aging 1055T (3.8GHz).
DoYouEvenModBro Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 Eh whatever. I don't think the graphical quality of Ugrids 5 to 7 is worth a performance drop.
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