Kelmych

It isn't related to the problem you are discussing, but since you use CCOR you don't actually need any plugins from Cloaks of Skyrim or Winter is Coming. You need these mods installed, but only for the textures and meshes. The plugins can be moved to optional ESPs in the left pane of MO for the two mods.

You did run the FO4 Launcher initially outside MO to get the registry values set, right? Preferably you ran DoubleYou's fINIp program.

I don't recall having problems with drifting sights on weapons when using RH_Ironsights. Except for a few weapons, as noted in the FO3 guide on the STEP site (see my signature). I don't try to use RH_Ironsights with any of the Millenia weapons in my game because of the issues with RH_Ironsights and WMK in FO3. I thus don't have much experience with these. I also generally avoid using the Millenia replacers for standard vanilla weapons like the Assault Rifle. Which mods that you use affect the Assault rifle, and other weapons that have this drift problem?

Version 2.6 adds patches for two mods that are not in the STEP list, so the options for 2.6 for STEP use should be the same as for 2.5.

PB Broken Steel and Point Lookout are part of the combined PB plugin, so they don't get merged into the bashed patch since these plugins aren't used. schematics2.esp is marked no merge; I was apparently lookig at the original version.

I looked in my game and I have the same situation. I'd always considered it to be an "undershirt" worn by NPCs but you're right it shouldn't be that way. The facial textures seem correct but the body ones don't.

Thanks Audley for the excellent summary. A reference to your post was added to the Fallout 3 guide.

I'd especially like to hear the relationship question

I've seen situations in which Wrye Bash uses a different load order than the one in MO, and this can potentially cause problems like this. I expect it has something to do with settings, but it's hard to determine what is happening since for me the situation doesn't recur the next time I use WB.

It's broken in the most recent Python version also, unfortunately.

Thanks for the updates Adonis

I went to the WB support thread and got Wrye Bash 307.201603282116 - Standalone Executable.7z by Utomno. The executable is dated 2016-03-28. I installed it into Skyrim\Mopy and also replaced the existing bashed patch used in MO with a version from the templates folder. I generated Bashed Patch, Skyrim.esp using this version of Wrye Bash. It has the same error in the bashed patch as the entry using the older version of Wrye Bash. In the bashed patch object 00009389 is in the Tamriel Worldspace block 0,-1 subblock 2,-3. The WB entry itself seems correct. The other plugins that modify this object have the block and subblock correct. The same block/sublock in the bashed patch has object 00009344. This object is also in the wrong block and subblock in the bashed patch. I repaired the entries in the bashed patch and am rerunning DynDOLOD. Should I post this error in the official WB forum or do I need to gather more information first?

The clothing mod does typically determine the body skin texture, at least the base texture.

I assumed you already did the standard fixes of making sure that Archive Invalidation is set in MO, and that bLoadFaceGenHeadEGTFiles=1 is set in Fallout.ini (as per the guide). These fixes account for the majority of Internet posts about this problem.

The bashed patch has this entry with both the block and subblock values reversed. The other plugins overwriting the Skyrim.esm cell have the correct block/subblock entries. If I run the bashed patch again will it fix this, or it is a bug in Wrye Flash?

I have been using DynDOLOD successfully until today. I updated to the latest version of TES5Edit and now I have a problem. I get this error message: [spoiler=TES5Edit bugreport]date/time : 2016-03-27, 22:45:49, 739ms operating system : Windows 8.1 x64 build 9600 system language : English system up time : 12 hours 32 minutes program up time : 40 minutes 1 second processors : 8x Intel® Core i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz physical memory : 9891/16322 MB (free/total) free disk space : (C:) 41.95 GB (D:) 449.57 GB display mode : 2560x1440, 32 bit process id : $840 allocated memory : 1.33 GB largest free block : 1.98 GB command line : "D:\Games\xEdit\xEdit.exe" -TES5 -edit -o:"D:\Games\Skyrim LOD Export" -IKnowWhatImDoing executable : xEdit.exe exec. date/time : 2016-03-22 03:17 version : 3.1.3.0 compiled with : Delphi XE madExcept version : 4.0.12 callstack crc : $7677e979, $4bf7286b, $0784b07c exception number : 1 exception class : Exception exception message : Duplicate FormID [00009389] in file [D2] DynDOLOD.esp. main thread ($1d7c): 0078cc42 +00c2 xEdit.exe wbImplementation 1840 +10 TwbFile.AddMainRecord 0079df1b +008f xEdit.exe wbImplementation 5934 +5 TwbMainRecord.Create 0079db76 +04b2 xEdit.exe wbImplementation 5909 +69 TwbMainRecord.Create 007b2f51 +1b3d xEdit.exe wbImplementation 10569 +259 TwbGroupRecord.AddIfMissingInternal 007b2c5f +184b xEdit.exe wbImplementation 10540 +230 TwbGroupRecord.AddIfMissingInternal 007b86e7 +009f xEdit.exe wbImplementation 11680 +25 TwbElement.AddIfMissing 0077df0c +0124 xEdit.exe wbImplementation 161 +16 wbCopyElementToFile 0077ded6 +00ee xEdit.exe wbImplementation 154 +9 wbCopyElementToFile 00b89095 +0099 xEdit.exe wbScriptAdapter 664 +3 _wbCopyElementToFile 00b19752 +009e xEdit.exe JvInterpreter GetFun 00b19eab +028b xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterAdapter.GetValue 00b1dc70 +0064 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterExpression.GetValue 00b1e899 +009d xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.GetValue 00b22824 +001c xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterUnit.GetValue 00b1d264 +0164 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterExpression.InternalGetValue 00b1bdd9 +0139 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter Expression 00b1c8b0 +005c xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterExpression.Expression1 00b1ce5a +0112 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterExpression.ReadArgs 00b1d178 +0078 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterExpression.InternalGetValue 00b1bdd9 +0139 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter Expression 00b1c8b0 +005c xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterExpression.Expression1 00b1f426 +0386 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InternalSetValue 00b1f720 +00a8 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretIdentifier 00b1ea3d +00e5 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretStatement 00b1f80d +00b1 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretBegin 00b1ea84 +012c xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretStatement 00b1f8cc +0054 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretIf 00b1ea8d +0135 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretStatement 00b1f80d +00b1 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretBegin 00b1e6d6 +0052 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InFunction 00b22c1b +00c3 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterUnit.ExecFunction 00b22966 +015e xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterUnit.GetValue 00b1d264 +0164 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterExpression.InternalGetValue 00b1bdd9 +0139 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter Expression 00b1c8b0 +005c xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterExpression.Expression1 00b1f426 +0386 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InternalSetValue 00b1f720 +00a8 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretIdentifier 00b1ea3d +00e5 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretStatement 00b1f80d +00b1 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretBegin 00b1ea84 +012c xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretStatement 00b1f8cc +0054 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretIf 00b1ea8d +0135 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretStatement 00b1f903 +008b xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretIf 00b1ea8d +0135 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretStatement 00b1f80d +00b1 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretBegin 00b1e6d6 +0052 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InFunction 00b22c1b +00c3 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterUnit.ExecFunction 00b22966 +015e xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterUnit.GetValue 00b1d264 +0164 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterExpression.InternalGetValue 00b1f6d5 +005d xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretIdentifier 00b1ea3d +00e5 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretStatement 00b1f80d +00b1 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretBegin 00b1e6d6 +0052 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InFunction 00b22c1b +00c3 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterUnit.ExecFunction 00b22966 +015e xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterUnit.GetValue 00b1d264 +0164 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterExpression.InternalGetValue 00b1bdd9 +0139 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter Expression 00b1c8b0 +005c xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterExpression.Expression1 00b1f426 +0386 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InternalSetValue 00b1f720 +00a8 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretIdentifier 00b1ea3d +00e5 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretStatement 00b1f80d +00b1 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretBegin 00b1ea84 +012c xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretStatement 00b1fdfb +01b3 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretFor 00b1eaa8 +0150 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretStatement 00b1f80d +00b1 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretBegin 00b1ea84 +012c xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretStatement 00b1f8cc +0054 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretIf 00b1ea8d +0135 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretStatement 00b1f80d +00b1 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretBegin 00b1e6d6 +0052 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InFunction 00b22c1b +00c3 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterUnit.ExecFunction 00b22966 +015e xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterUnit.GetValue 00b1d264 +0164 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterExpression.InternalGetValue 00b1f6d5 +005d xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretIdentifier 00b1ea3d +00e5 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretStatement 00b1f80d +00b1 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretBegin 00b1ea84 +012c xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretStatement 00b1f8cc +0054 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretIf 00b1ea8d +0135 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretStatement 00b1f80d +00b1 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretBegin 00b1e6d6 +0052 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InFunction 00b22c1b +00c3 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterUnit.ExecFunction 00b22966 +015e xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterUnit.GetValue 00b1d264 +0164 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterExpression.InternalGetValue 00b1bdd9 +0139 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter Expression 00b1c3cb +072b xEdit.exe JvInterpreter Expression 00b1c8b0 +005c xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterExpression.Expression1 00b1c989 +0039 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterExpression.Expression2 00b1f8a2 +002a xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretIf 00b1ea8d +0135 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretStatement 00b1f80d +00b1 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretBegin 00b1ea84 +012c xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretStatement 00b1fdfb +01b3 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretFor 00b1eaa8 +0150 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretStatement 00b1f80d +00b1 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretBegin 00b1ea84 +012c xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretStatement 00b1f903 +008b xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretIf 00b1ea8d +0135 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretStatement 00b1f80d +00b1 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InterpretBegin 00b1e6d6 +0052 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterFunction.InFunction 00b22c1b +00c3 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterUnit.ExecFunction 00b22ec9 +0145 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterUnit.CallFunctionEx 00b22d4a +0062 xEdit.exe JvInterpreter TJvInterpreterUnit.CallFunction 00bd2eba +0226 xEdit.exe frmViewMain 7041 +43 TfrmMain.ApplyScript 00bd38f2 +015e xEdit.exe frmViewMain 7142 +15 TfrmMain.mniNavApplyScriptClick 0052825b +00a7 xEdit.exe Menus TMenuItem.Click 00529757 +0013 xEdit.exe Menus TMenu.DispatchCommand 0052a936 +0082 xEdit.exe Menus TPopupList.WndProc 0052a885 +001d xEdit.exe Menus TPopupList.MainWndProc 004c71cc +0014 xEdit.exe Classes StdWndProc 77bea67b +000b user32.dll DispatchMessageW 005b44f7 +00f3 xEdit.exe Forms TApplication.ProcessMessage 005b453a +000a xEdit.exe Forms TApplication.HandleMessage 005b4865 +00c9 xEdit.exe Forms TApplication.Run 00c08268 +0068 xEdit.exe TES5Edit 86 +8 initialization 77737c02 +0022 KERNEL32.DLL BaseThreadInitThunk thread $270c (TWorkerThread): 76f92cc1 +b1 KERNELBASE.dll WaitForSingleObjectEx 76f92bfd +0d KERNELBASE.dll WaitForSingleObject 005d45ad +19 xEdit.exe VirtualTrees 6308 +3 TWorkerThread.Execute 00474e47 +2b xEdit.exe madExcept HookedTThreadExecute 004c4506 +42 xEdit.exe Classes ThreadProc 00407588 +28 xEdit.exe System 1044 +0 ThreadWrapper 00474d29 +0d xEdit.exe madExcept CallThreadProcSafe 00474d93 +37 xEdit.exe madExcept ThreadExceptFrame 77737c02 +22 KERNEL32.DLL BaseThreadInitThunk >> created by main thread ($1d7c) at: 005d4495 +19 xEdit.exe VirtualTrees 6251 +1 TWorkerThread.Create thread $11b0: 77737c02 +22 KERNEL32.DLL BaseThreadInitThunk thread $1654: 77737c02 +22 KERNEL32.DLL BaseThreadInitThunk The TES5Edit_log.txt file is available here.

You might look in FO3Edit at the base radio object and see if it is possible to change the default radio station. I have never looked at these in detail. It might even be possible for them to default to off.

I'm not aware of a mod that does this. I don't know what YouTube does with vanilla Fallout 3 music from Bethesda. If that isn't the problem you could temporarily disable the mods that add music which YouTube thinks are copyrighted.

I was looking at the FO4Edit Nexus page (the location of the most recent TES5Edit) and at the documentation referenced there. One of the pages is the Skyrim Dirty Plugins List. It mentions 4 records that should be removed from Dawnguard.esm in addition to those removed by TES5Edit cleaning. I looked in Dawnguard.esm in my system and I found 3 of these records present even after 2 stages of TES5Edit cleaning (I didn't find the one in CELL 00039F67). Is this information accurate, and if so should we add the instructions to remove some or all of these to the instructions on the Dawnguard wiki page?

It would help if you provide the name of the NPCs whose images you are showing so we can find them in the game and check them. It always possible that there may be differences between the face and body since they are provided by two separate mods, but others can check and see if the same issue happens with their game. There are other clothing mods than the Exeter ones for females; the Exeter ones are the only ones included in the guide since they they are the only comprehensive set of clothing and armor mods that use an underwear version of the body. The other female clothing mods typically don't add underwear to the body.

I have never installed a game on the system drive (C:). The game saves and some small configuration files are automatically there because the user directories are on the system drive, but Steam, the games (e.g., the Skyrim folder), and utilities used with the games such as Mod Organizer are installed elsewhere. It's a good idea to always set any folder used for the game files and utilities to allow Everyone full access.

I use Apocalypse also. My primary magic mod is Mighty Magick Skyrim since it has some features I like and (like Apocalypse) it can be used with other magic mods since it doesn't make any large changes to the magic perk tree.

I don't know of any videos or web pages that show using xEdit to examine a problem like this. Pick an NPC that is having problems with the head. Activate FO3Edit. Click the plus sign next to Project Beauty.esm and then click the plus sign next to Non-Player Character. Find the row with the NPC you want to check. The right hand window will show all the mods that change plugin records for this NPC. See if there are any records that are changed by mods other than Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm, Project Beauty or a Blackened patch that includes Project Beauty content.

I also activated this mod recently and I used the approach that Greg did on his second playthrough for the Saarthal quest. It worked properly. I just started the next mage guild quest (find books).

This seems a bit like an automated version of BOSS (which grouped mods) but required a great deal of maintenance. The automation part, if I understand the FAQ, uses crowdsourcing to automate the building of the lists (unlike the manual approach used in BOSS). It also provides some automated recommendations based on analyses of the plugins (as LOOT does now).