z929669 Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 I am pretty confused by the OP screens. TCG sounds like a mesh replacement, and we'd need to know what textures go with the new meshes (if the mod does not supply). NJ is a mesh or texture replacer or both? Some of the mods in question have no apparent effect. Need to know what overwrites what in those screens maybe.
Octopuss Posted February 14, 2014 Author Posted February 14, 2014 None of the other mods touch meshes at all. Just checked again.
z929669 Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 Well, generally, textures need to be created for a mesh replacement (especially where effects are concerned) ... does this mod provide any textures?
Octopuss Posted February 14, 2014 Author Posted February 14, 2014 Nope. It's aparently meant to primarily go with vanilla textures, and was obviously tested with those, judging by the screenshots on Nexus.
WilliamImm Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 Well, roots, let's actually do the tests without Better Circlets just to see if that's hindering this mod. You up to it?
kryptopyr Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 I wasn't all that impressed with the look of True Circlet Gems in the comparison screenshots, with the exception of the rubies, which I think look great. However, I took the time to actually load these up and check them out in game. I have to say, the screenshots just aren't really capturing True Gems very well. Not that the screenshots are inaccurate, but they just can't capture the depth of the gems. I ran around a bit in different lighting and watched how the light shifts in the True Gems depending on the direction of the light. Actually you can just stand still and watch the character breath, and that small movement is enough to make the facets in the gems sparkle slightly. Then I loaded New Jewels (and also vanilla), and the difference is pretty dramatic. The gems look rather flat and plasticy. The emeralds have the best definition in New Jewels (the rubies have the least), but even in the emeralds the highlights and reflections don't shift or move along with the character or light sources, which does give them something of a painted on appearance. I do think it would be nice if the green and blue colors in True Gems weren't quite as bright. I'd prefer a deeper color or maybe something slightly less saturated, but overall the added depth that the new meshes lend to the jewels is a rather nice effect. EDIT: Also the moonstone in New Jewels is a bit blinding. The black pearl is very nice, but I think the moonstone needs to be darker.
Noobsayer Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 EDIT: Also the moonstone in New Jewels is a bit blinding. The black pearl is very nice, but I think the moonstone needs to be darker.It's a bit bright I agree, but better than the blue from vanilla imo. Realizing now that they don't conflict, I will probably combine New Jewels and True Gems. Unscientific screenies showing New Jewels  vs. Vanilla moonstones. Forgot to turn off ENB, I realize that can affect colour :B   EDIT: Added one more pic because the blue is really bad for me in certain lighting. So pics are New Jewels > Vanilla > Vanilla.
kryptopyr Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 Here's another moonstone/onyx comparison. Includes vanilla, Better Circlets (obviously stones only), New Jewels, and a couple of others for good measure. :)
Octopuss Posted February 16, 2014 Author Posted February 16, 2014 Someone should really come up with a proper, complete, and awesome circlets (or all the jewellry) mod.
DoubleYou Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 I prefer #2 for the silver and #1 for the golden. Just has more detail than the others.
Noobsayer Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 Here's another moonstone/onyx comparison. Includes vanilla, Better Circlets (obviously stones only), New Jewels, and a couple of others for good measure. :) I prefer 3, with 7 as a runner up, because I think they actually look like moonstone (which is white). Thanks for the comparison!
z929669 Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 #7 is my favorite, but we still seem to be no closer to a dcision on this or related mods. kryptopyr's previous not hints at how we must approach the testing. All combinations and much closer-up screens needed I think.
kryptopyr Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 Moonstone does occur in a wide variety of colors including blue, brown, pink, orange, and yellow. Moonstone as it occurs elsewhere in Skyrim is a light yellowish-brown color.
Noobsayer Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 Moonstone does occur in a wide variety of colors including blue' date=' brown, pink, orange, and yellow. Moonstone as it occurs elsewhere in Skyrim is a light yellowish-brown color.[/quote'] Hmm, it appears you're right. I still like the white best though P: lol
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