TechAngel85 Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 I think that it is pretty clear that EBT' date=' BFS and the like are problematic and contribute significantly to CTDs and other issues during combat and uninstall. Seems fine to manage carefully in a Pack, but too unstable for Core, IMO.[/quote']+1
Kelmych Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 +1 I've often had problems (primarily CTDs) with effects mods like these whenever I'm in a location with high VRAM use and I'm in combat. I've even had similar problems with effects mods in other Bethesda games like Fallout NV. We might want to edit the notes section of the STEP guide, or have a note elsewhere in the guide, to be more specific about the problems than the current warning. Effects mods like this add noticeable short-term VRAM use and high short-term intensive script use, and on systems/game configurations (e.g., mods being used) without sufficient reserve VRAM, RAM, and CPU capacity CTDs will be fairly common when game events cause one or more of these mods to be active.
thunderclam Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 Is there any way to keep those mods by reducing some of the effects via MCM or are they just too buggy for the risks? I ask because I never used BFS before but have been using EBT since there was EBT without issues that I could trace directly to it. That said, I am also new to SKSE, SkyUI and so on so problems associated with script mods are not a big part of my experience... yet.
z929669 Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 +1 I've often had problems (primarily CTDs) with effects mods like these whenever I'm in a location with high VRAM use and I'm in combat. I've even had similar problems with effects mods in other Bethesda games like Fallout NV. We might want to edit the notes section of the STEP guide, or have a note elsewhere in the guide, to be more specific about the problems than the current warning. Effects mods like this add noticeable short-term VRAM use and high short-term intensive script use, and on systems/game configurations (e.g., mods being used) without sufficient reserve VRAM, RAM, and CPU capacity CTDs will be fairly common when game events cause one or more of these mods to be active.Go ahead and create a section on that if you want. Maybe put it on the discussion page of the dev guide, and then we can plop it in later on.
D1Z4STR Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 I have just finished installing this and ran a test and I am noticing tons of blood, not even sem-realistic imo. Is there a way to town down the blood splatters on the ground and such? A arrow to the body should not cause a 4 foot radius of blood around a body. Thanks.
EssArrBee Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 I think MCM menu has some options for blood effects. And you can mention it to the author and he could always add it the menu if it's not there.
phosphor Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 Thunderclam asked... "Is there any way to keep those mods by reducing some of the effects via MCM or are they just too buggy for the risks? I ask because I never used BFS before but have been using EBT since there was EBT without issues that I could trace directly to it. That said, I am also new to SKSE, SkyUI and so on so problems associated with script mods are not a big part of my experience... yet." I'm wondering the same.. Anyone know? Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk 4
z929669 Posted September 1, 2013 Posted September 1, 2013 Is there any way to keep those mods by reducing some of the effects via MCM or are they just too buggy for the risks? I ask because I never used BFS before but have been using EBT since there was EBT without issues that I could trace directly to it. That said' date=' I am also new to SKSE, SkyUI and so on so problems associated with script mods are not a big part of my experience... yet.[/quote']Do as you will, but this and mods like it will never be in STEP:Core. too many potential issues regardless (unless all scripting can be shut down).
thunderclam Posted September 1, 2013 Posted September 1, 2013 I'm not sure what these issues are. You STEP guys are at a pretty high level and it's sometimes difficult to follow why or why not to do something, you know? I've always used EBT so I don't understand why it causes problems.
z929669 Posted September 1, 2013 Posted September 1, 2013 I'm not sure what these issues are. You STEP guys are at a pretty high level and it's sometimes difficult to follow why or why not to do something, you know? I've always used EBT so I don't understand why it causes problems.Review the EBT Nexus thread. The details are all there. Problems with highly-modded setups mostly, but this kind of mod with heavy combat scripting can cause CTDs. It is also potentially problematic for your savegames if you ever uninstall it. Too much baggage.
Deathwing514 Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 I just want to verify this information one last time. So has it been proven that this mod causes CTD/freezing? I can understand the CTD/freezing if your using multiple heavy scripted mods such as BFS, DSI, EBI, & etc, but I just want to confirm if this mod as a standalone actually causes CTD/freezing. Like neovalen, it is hard for me to see this mod go, unless it actually will be detrimental in my long term playthrough.
Garfink Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 Test it yourself with your load order is best, mixed reports on this one. With my attempt at zero-crash tolerance, this scripted mod is off my load list due to its low priority. Garfink Skyrim Junkie Anonymous.
kryptopyr Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 I was using this mod for a very long time and had a fairly stable game. I can't claim I had zero crashes, but they were pretty infrequent. However, I also was not using many other heavily scripted mods at the time.
z929669 Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 I was using this mod for a very long time and had a fairly stable game. I can't claim I had zero crashes' date=' but they were pretty infrequent. However, I also was not using many other heavily scripted mods at the time.[/quote']This exactly. We may use EBT in Extended, but definitely not Core. Same goes for other dynamic-scripting mods that go into turbo mode during combat. Unless there is some way to control this behavior and other random issues that have been reported in association with mods like this. I think that there are losing combinations of mods and that EBT is a frequent associate along with BFS and other combat-oriented mods. None of these are necessarily *bad*, but they are not good "base stones" for the foundation.
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