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A+ on this one.

I'm getting the black ground blood again using 0.8.0 Update 3, did we ever figure out which file was causing that?

Nice :) Might be able to use some of these since race menu allows custom war paints without editing forms.

Looks nice!

Consoles must die. That is all.

I've been looking at both of those as well but haven't tried the latest version. Yet. Unfortunately I had to return to work so only get a few hours a night to mod/game.

Discussion thread: Race Menu by Expired Wiki Link Making a character just got a lot more awesome. I haven't tested yet but it looks damn good. RaceMenu PURPOSE The RaceMenu was redesigned with the intention of using SKSE to allow for more in-depth customization of your character. FEATURES Numeric display for all slidersCategorizes all the vanilla options to the SkyUI lookSearch filter by name (Same as SkyUI)Color ANY tint, including hair with an AARRGGBB valueLoads/Saves settings when re-opening the menuLight On/Off (Spawns a white light directly infront of your character)Zoom distances adjusted to be closer to the face when In and slightly further when outAdjust player heightAdjust player bicep sizeAdjust player breast size (Only works for meshes that support skeletal scaling e.g. BBP)Basic plugin interfaceController supportWorks with any race, including custom racesDoesn't modify any vanilla assets (Unlike my Extended Slider Colors mod)Multi-warpaint supportWarpaint texture hotswapping (Custom warpaint)Display racial skill bonuses

Never saw this one. Will check it out when I get home.

Another small update. He added the tankards to the drinking anim model.

Yet another new version.

Its out and I like it much better than previously. Its definitely going into my guide and its very well written with good documentation.

Here is another black texture (latest on nexus): textures/trees/treepineforestaddon01*.dds This is the Mora Tapinella file. (totally not where I thought it would be)

Anti-aliasing through ENB... nice! :)

Yeah seem to be getting quite a few blacks with the latest nexus release.

2.0 is released!

Once my guide is up to snuff I plan to actually take the time to play and just do maintenance mode for awhile. :) Doing my own guide solo has taken nearly all my time.

Anyone compared old to new? If using lush trees you have to use original version not Vurts.

That would be a godsend.

This is driving me nuts, does anyone know what the texture file is for the Mora Tapinella world model? It's showing up black and when I uninstall the optimized textures it's fine again I just can't find it to exclude it. Moratapinellabits is the inventory model but for the life of me can't find the world model.

What, where? There's no personal attacks from my side in any part of my post, nor do I see it in anyone else's, but it's pretty obvious that you were referring to my post anyway. I disapprove of such mods, because I think they're turning Skyrim (and Nexus as the result) into something that it should never be, in my opinion. But I wouldn't think of attacking the author for that reason alone, and I highly doubt my post could be interpreted as such. Likewise, I do think that the nude body mods have their place in modding (I think I was using UNP last time, but haven't played the game in a while to remember and it wouldn't be a mod that I'd recommend either), but they simply don't meet the requirements to be included in STEP, hence why I said they are an unnecessary addition (no STEP mods require it, and they are both a matter of taste). When it comes to the face mods, I prefer the worn, dirty look of Skyrim citizens since it reflects how hardened the Nords are through the time of war and their lifestyles. You have to remember that for every nobleman/woman who's got time to take care of their body, there would be a dozen of commoners who wouldn't view it as practical to moisturise their face with goat's milk and polish their nails. Skyrim is a place of a Civil War, with monsters commonly roaming around. I doubt Roman methods of beautification of city folks would apply in this environment, but each to their own. If it was exclusive to high class court ladies, I would have no issue with that, but judging from the screenshots, the nails look like they were placed here straight from a Chinese cartoon. Besides, how ridiculous STEP would become if we started including mods like this? I actually was not referring to your post specifically, but if you feel that way tis fine. After reading all the posts in regards to this particular Authors postings of late I found the reception (although warranted because of style) to be a little harsh/short instead of giving constructive feedback. (i.e. "I can't believe you think this is good...", "No, Just No", etc.) People need to learn to provide feedback just not completely dismiss someone's hard work. As far as Skyrim is concerned: Yes there is a civil war going on, people have their opinions, but not all of them are in the fight/are warriors. One thing I note in particular is there are MANY characters just trying to stay OUT of the war. I don't think it would be "rediculous" at all for the reasons stated above. However, the STEP mantra above does not allow for interpretation (i.e. if it's not Vanilla style it's not in STEP) and that is fine. Personally, I would not see the harm in perhaps offering a "pack" for it. In any case, if they get accepted or not makes no difference to me. I am just putting my opinion out there for people to see and make their own choice.

After reading your answers, I think a mix of 3 and 4 is in order. I'll see what I can come up with to get the best of both worlds. :)

I really do hate when people start jumping in on the personal attacks instead of just simply stating their opinion. Not listing any one person just as a general opinion where some of the threads on here go. I, for one, agree with Magistrate on some levels that Vanilla Skyrim is a little too bland and many of the NPCs do not match their personalities/story due to their looks. Female yarls, rich people, courtesans, bards, etc should not look like they have been working days in the field (like vanilla/XCE base with all the wrinkles). The majority of the NPCs who have these issues have the complexion/dirtmap slider set correctly so they do not look overly out of place once a beautification is installed. Someone could, theoretically, go in and modify any NPCs Bethesda missed but I do think beautification is required for me to enjoy the game as it looks horribly unrealistic otherwise. I use UNP because the vanilla skyrim body has a ridiculously bad looking flat female body, I'm sorry but in real life they may not all look like models but they definitely have varying sizes in breasts and shape. Not to mention, people bathe. (hence the rash of "I Bathe" type mods at the beginning of Skyrim modding) As for the male body, the detail seems lost in the vanilla models and I much prefer the look of Better Males. I do use the adult version of both mods as I find the "bikini"/"flap of cloth" look to be completely wrong. I believe it should be more like an undercoat for armor or nothing at all under clothing given the "time period" (I use this loosely). Technically, there are non-adult underwear versions of both mods if it was ever decided to use them. Not to mention pretty much all of the "beautification" mods require some sort of body replacer. This very issue is one of the reasons I began my guide as a separate, additional STEP-Based mod guide. As you all know, I love STEP and I stay here and contribute on pretty much everything I see. I love my lore, but I also love more realism. I don't take Bethesda's vision as scripture, but rather a set of guidelines. As far as this mod goes, if there was a way to apply it only to the player and/or select NPCs if he or she chooses then I don't see the issue, but I do not see it as a replacer imo.

I don't want to play through until modding has reached the point of epic pur portions. My general rule is to not buy a TES title until one year post release but I broke it for Skyrim. I think I met the grey beards once and explored and fought a lot of random enemies... plus a few of the bigger side quests (thanks Alternate Start) for testing.

For men I'm using Better Males - Geonox Faces Without Beard atm but I'm still planning to evalute Fine Face Textures before I finalize the guide. I dislike EEO just because it still has a bunch of bugs (some beards and vampires specifically) though I do like the concept, won't be using it until it becomes more mature. The male part of the guide is still in basic form but my testing is coming along.