ACCEPTED Scrambled Bugs (by KernalsEgg)

[DoubleYou]

I don't know about you guys, but I'm confused as to which of these files from the link I am supposed to install. I think I want the Download x64 button under "Run console apps" ? We should spell this out more clearly at the very least.

 

[Greg]

Oh good grief... why is Microsoft making this so complicated and with zero information to help users decide which one they need? The links under Console Apps may be sufficient to support Scrambled Bugs. The links under Desktop Apps has everything in Console Apps plus the stuff required to run Windows desktop applications. You might check to see if .NET 5 is already installed via Windows Update. I can't check mine because the .NET 5 SDK and runtime is installed with the Visual Studio updates.

[DoubleYou]

Yeah, I have the SDK as well because of Visual Studio. Checking the comments, the author says to use the Desktop version.

[z929669]

  On 10/8/2021 at 2:26 AM, Greg said:

Oh good grief... why is Microsoft making this so complicated and with zero information to help users decide which one they need? The links under Console Apps may be sufficient to support Scrambled Bugs. The links under Desktop Apps has everything in Console Apps plus the stuff required to run Windows desktop applications. You might check to see if .NET 5 is already installed via Windows Update. I can't check mine because the .NET 5 SDK and runtime is installed with the Visual Studio updates.

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They are under Windows features, and I only see 4.8 max for current updated Win 10 ... does this mod REALLY need 5.0 or is this just OCD?

[TechAngel85]

  On 10/8/2021 at 1:29 AM, DoubleYou said:

I don't know about you guys, but I'm confused as to which of these files from the link I am supposed to install. I think I want the Download x64 button under "Run console apps" ? We should spell this out more clearly at the very least.

 

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https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/9419188-apply-spell-patch/page-57#entry100222568

[DoubleYou]

  On 10/8/2021 at 3:23 AM, z929669 said:

They are under Windows features, and I only see 4.8 max for current updated Win 10 ... does this mod REALLY need 5.0 or is this just OCD?

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Yes, it really needs it. There was discussion on the  SkyrimSE RE Discord about it. 

[Greg]

  On 10/8/2021 at 3:23 AM, z929669 said:

They are under Windows features, and I only see 4.8 max for current updated Win 10 ... does this mod REALLY need 5.0 or is this just OCD?

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Unfortunately .NET Framework 4.8 and .NET 5.0 sounds like a version bump, but these are two completely different beasts. .NET Framework is the original framework that is exclusive to Windows whereas .NET 5.0 is a new beast that allegedly works on Windows, Mac and Linux.

[z929669]

I think we should also be using the Eggchantments main File and the Underfilled Soul Gems Optional file.

Any objections?

[Greg]

I thought we had already decided to include Eggchantments? The instructions state to install both main files (Scrambled Bugs and Scrambled Eggchantments).

The Underfilled Soul Gems optional file may be a good choice if this isn't already fixed by another mod.

EDIT: I looked through the guide and I don't see anything obvious that fixes underfilled soul gems unless I missed it.

[z929669]

  On 10/18/2021 at 2:24 AM, Greg said:

I thought we had already decided to include Eggchantments? The instructions state to install both main files (Scrambled Bugs and Scrambled Eggchantments).

The Underfilled Soul Gems optional file may be a good choice if this isn't already fixed by another mod.

EDIT: I looked through the guide and I don't see anything obvious that fixes underfilled soul gems unless I missed it.

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I did n't read the instructions apparently. It does say to install both Main and the Optional. I will make it a bit more obvious.

[DoubleYou]

There seem to be version specific instructions for this mod in addition to the main recommendations. Ensure you modified the correct one. 

Soul gems optional likely conflicts with GIST, which is already in the guide. Recommend not to use it for this reason. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/15755

[Greg]

  On 10/18/2021 at 5:20 AM, DoubleYou said:

There seem to be version specific instructions for this mod in addition to the main recommendations. Ensure you modified the correct one. 

Soul gems optional likely conflicts with GIST, which is already in the guide. Recommend not to use it for this reason. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/15755

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Thank you for remembering that one. I thought we had something similar in the guide but my mind is turning to mush and I just couldn't see it.

[z929669]

  On 10/18/2021 at 5:20 AM, DoubleYou said:

There seem to be version specific instructions for this mod in addition to the main recommendations. Ensure you modified the correct one. 

Soul gems optional likely conflicts with GIST, which is already in the guide. Recommend not to use it for this reason. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/15755

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Indeed. Thanks

This mod doesn't need version-specific instructions, since 2.0.0 is the only guide it has been in. Will fix.

[TaxTalis]

Hello,
not sure if this is helpful or wanted but I went through the WIP guide
and found that with Version 15 of Scambled Bugs Scrambled Eggchantments has been merged into it.
The JSON configuration has changed and does not resemble the instructions anymore.

From the mods changelogs:

• Renamed the Multiple Hit Effects patch to the Cloak Hit Effects patch
• Moved the Magic Effect Conditions fix from Scrambled Bugs to Bug Fixes SSE
• Renamed the Apply Spell Perk Entry Points: Multiple Spells patch to the Perk Entry Points: Apply Multiple Spells patch

Therefore as far as I can tell right now:

• "equipBestAmmo": false -> stays
• "multipleHitEffects": false -> "cloakHitEffects": false
• "magicEffectConditions": true -> seems to have been introduced to Bug Fixes SSE
• "multipleSpells": false -> "applyMultipleSpells": false

[z929669]

  On 3/2/2022 at 6:24 PM, TaxTalis said:

Hello,
not sure if this is helpful or wanted but I went through the WIP guide
and found that with Version 15 of Scambled Bugs Scrambled Eggchantments has been merged into it.
The JSON configuration has changed and does not resemble the instructions anymore.

From the mods changelogs:

• Renamed the Multiple Hit Effects patch to the Cloak Hit Effects patch
• Moved the Magic Effect Conditions fix from Scrambled Bugs to Bug Fixes SSE
• Renamed the Apply Spell Perk Entry Points: Multiple Spells patch to the Perk Entry Points: Apply Multiple Spells patch

Therefore as far as I can tell right now:

• "equipBestAmmo": false -> stays
• "multipleHitEffects": false -> "cloakHitEffects": false
• "magicEffectConditions": true -> seems to have been introduced to Bug Fixes SSE
• "multipleSpells": false -> "applyMultipleSpells": false

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This mod is not compatible with the WIP guide until it is updated for the latest version of the game.