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Posted
10 hours ago, sheson said:

You really do not need to post the LODGen logs for terrain LOD meshes generation if there is a problem with terrain LOD textures much later.

See if this version handles the error with a better message maybe.

Here is the bugreport from the version provided:

bugreport.txt

And relevant output from xEdit window:

[03:51] c:\modding\tools\xlodgen\xlodgen_output\textures\terrain\tamriel\tamriel.16.-16.16_n.dds
[03:52] Error creating textures for level 8 quad [-16,0] Error creating textures for level 4 quad [-12,0] Assertion failure (C:\Delphi\Projects\xEdit\Core\wbImplementation.pas, line 17347)
[03:56] Error creating textures for level 16 quad [-16,0] Error creating textures for level 8 quad [-16,0] Error creating textures for level 4 quad [-12,0] Assertion failure (C:\Delphi\Projects\xEdit\Core\wbImplementation.pas, line 17347)
Error creating textures for level 16 quad [-16,0] Error creating textures for level 8 quad [-16,0] Error creating textures for level 4 quad [-12,0] Assertion failure (C:\Delphi\Projects\xEdit\Core\wbImplementation.pas, line 17347)

 

Posted
1 hour ago, sheson said:

Check what happens with this version.

So far, nothing but crashes without bug report and no useful SSELODGen log generated yet after multiple runs and crashes (I just keep the output generated in place and continue by selecting all remaining wordspaces beginning with the one that crashed last attempt). Fortunately, xLODGen skips chunks that already have data. Crashes mostly happen in Solsteimworld, but also Tamriel.

This is probably unrelated, but I managed to grab this from the output window before my last crash. Blackreach never crashes though:

03:13] [Blackreach] Exporting terrain mesh data for LODGen to C:\Modding\Tools\xLODGen\Edit Scripts\LODGen_Terrain_Blackreach.bin
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [2] GRUP Exterior Cell Block 0, 0 \ [0] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block 0, 0 \ [19] [CELL:000237B5] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at 6,5) \ [2] DATA - Flags>
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [2] GRUP Exterior Cell Block 0, 0 \ [0] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block 0, 0 \ [19] [CELL:000237B5] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at 6,5) \ [2] DATA - Flags>
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [4] GRUP Exterior Cell Block -1, 0 \ [1] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block -1, 0 \ [25] [CELL:000237C7] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at -1,6) \ [2] DATA - Flags>
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [4] GRUP Exterior Cell Block -1, 0 \ [1] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block -1, 0 \ [25] [CELL:000237C7] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at -1,6) \ [2] DATA - Flags>
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [2] GRUP Exterior Cell Block 0, 0 \ [0] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block 0, 0 \ [50] [CELL:000237C5] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at 0,6) \ [2] DATA - Flags>
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [2] GRUP Exterior Cell Block 0, 0 \ [0] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block 0, 0 \ [50] [CELL:000237C5] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at 0,6) \ [2] DATA - Flags>
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [2] GRUP Exterior Cell Block 0, 0 \ [0] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block 0, 0 \ [48] [CELL:000237C4] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at 1,6) \ [2] DATA - Flags>
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [2] GRUP Exterior Cell Block 0, 0 \ [0] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block 0, 0 \ [48] [CELL:000237C4] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at 1,6) \ [2] DATA - Flags>
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [2] GRUP Exterior Cell Block 0, 0 \ [0] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block 0, 0 \ [44] [CELL:000237C2] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at 3,6) \ [2] DATA - Flags>
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [2] GRUP Exterior Cell Block 0, 0 \ [0] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block 0, 0 \ [44] [CELL:000237C2] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at 3,6) \ [2] DATA - Flags>
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [2] GRUP Exterior Cell Block 0, 0 \ [0] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block 0, 0 \ [32] [CELL:000237BC] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at 4,6) \ [2] DATA - Flags>
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [2] GRUP Exterior Cell Block 0, 0 \ [0] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block 0, 0 \ [32] [CELL:000237BC] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at 4,6) \ [2] DATA - Flags>
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [4] GRUP Exterior Cell Block -1, 0 \ [1] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block -1, 0 \ [24] [CELL:000237C6] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at -1,7) \ [2] DATA - Flags>
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [4] GRUP Exterior Cell Block -1, 0 \ [1] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block -1, 0 \ [24] [CELL:000237C6] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at -1,7) \ [2] DATA - Flags>
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [4] GRUP Exterior Cell Block -1, 0 \ [2] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block -1, 1 \ [11] [CELL:00023771] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at -1,8) \ [2] DATA - Flags>
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [4] GRUP Exterior Cell Block -1, 0 \ [2] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block -1, 1 \ [11] [CELL:00023771] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at -1,8) \ [2] DATA - Flags>
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [4] GRUP Exterior Cell Block -1, 0 \ [2] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block -1, 1 \ [0] [CELL:00023760] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at -1,9) \ [2] DATA - Flags>
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [4] GRUP Exterior Cell Block -1, 0 \ [2] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block -1, 1 \ [0] [CELL:00023760] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at -1,9) \ [2] DATA - Flags>
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [4] GRUP Exterior Cell Block -1, 0 \ [2] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block -1, 1 \ [1] [CELL:00023761] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at -2,10) \ [2] DATA - Flags>
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [4] GRUP Exterior Cell Block -1, 0 \ [2] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block -1, 1 \ [1] [CELL:00023761] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at -2,10) \ [2] DATA - Flags>
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [4] GRUP Exterior Cell Block -1, 0 \ [2] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block -1, 1 \ [10] [CELL:00023770] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at -1,10) \ [2] DATA - Flags>
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [4] GRUP Exterior Cell Block -1, 0 \ [2] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block -1, 1 \ [10] [CELL:00023770] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at -1,10) \ [2] DATA - Flags>
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [4] GRUP Exterior Cell Block -1, 0 \ [2] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block -1, 1 \ [2] [CELL:00023762] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at -2,11) \ [2] DATA - Flags>
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [4] GRUP Exterior Cell Block -1, 0 \ [2] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block -1, 1 \ [2] [CELL:00023762] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at -2,11) \ [2] DATA - Flags>
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [4] GRUP Exterior Cell Block -1, 0 \ [2] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block -1, 1 \ [9] [CELL:0002376F] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at -1,11) \ [2] DATA - Flags>
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [4] GRUP Exterior Cell Block -1, 0 \ [2] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block -1, 1 \ [9] [CELL:0002376F] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at -1,11) \ [2] DATA - Flags>
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [4] GRUP Exterior Cell Block -1, 0 \ [2] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block -1, 1 \ [8] [CELL:0002376E] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at -1,12) \ [2] DATA - Flags>
[03:13] <Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [59] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [19] GRUP World Children of Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] \ [4] GRUP Exterior Cell Block -1, 0 \ [2] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block -1, 1 \ [8] [CELL:0002376E] (in Blackreach "Blackreach" [WRLD:0001EE62] at -1,12) \ [2] DATA - Flags>

 

Posted
16 minutes ago, z929669 said:

So far, nothing but crashes without bug report and no useful SSELODGen log generated yet after multiple runs and crashes (I just keep the output generated in place and continue by selecting all remaining wordspaces beginning with the one that crashed last attempt). Fortunately, xLODGen skips chunks that already have data. Crashes mostly happen in Solsteimworld, but also Tamriel.

This is probably unrelated, but I managed to grab this from the output window before my last crash. Blackreach never crashes though:

Did you ever wonder why there are no other reports about such crashes?

If you have the time start from scratch until you get a bugreport.txt

xEdit always reports the unused data when accessing the Blackreach records.

Posted
12 minutes ago, sheson said:

Did you ever wonder why there are no other reports about such crashes?

xEdit always reports the unused data when accessing the Blackreach records.

Yes. It's a problem with something on my end, but I cannot fathom what it is. As I have mentioned in the past: The xEdit process often does not even appear in TaskManager when xLODGen64 is running. It's like the OS doesn't even recognize the application. Just finished successfully finally. Leaving the app open shows the relevant processes:

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It sometimes shows correctly during mesh gen:

image.png

At other times only this process shows (this is all during same run BTW):

image.png

Other times, it simply disappears:

image.png

This sort of thing only happens with xLODGen64 on my system. xEdit and DynDOLOD (all versions) don't have this issue.

I suppose I need to try with some clean boots with all non-essential processes disabled ...

Posted
29 minutes ago, sheson said:

Did you ever wonder why there are no other reports about such crashes?

If you have the time start from scratch until you get a bugreport.txt

xEdit always reports the unused data when accessing the Blackreach records.

That's what I am doing

This issue began for me with the version you first released based on xEdit 4.1.3 if I recall correctly. Prior to that, I had no issues. My PC config hasn't changed since then either (other than GFX driver updates). Anyway, I will keep banging on it.

Posted
23 minutes ago, z929669 said:

That's what I am doing

This issue began for me with the version you first released based on xEdit 4.1.3 if I recall correctly. Prior to that, I had no issues. My PC config hasn't changed since then either (other than GFX driver updates). Anyway, I will keep banging on it.

Any chance you could make a copy of the load order to a different PC or Notebook to see if it behaves differently?

Posted
26 minutes ago, sheson said:

Any chance you could make a copy of the load order to a different PC or Notebook to see if it behaves differently?

I don't have a spare PC running Windows at this time.

Even in safe mode with minimal startup, I get the same behavior and event (no bug report unless there is an issue reported in the xLODGen64 window without it exiting to desktop):

Faulting application name: xLODGenx64.exe, version: 4.1.3.1, time stamp: 0x613e398a
Faulting module name: KERNELBASE.dll, version: 10.0.19041.1151, time stamp: 0x891df6d3
Exception code: 0x0eedfade
Fault offset: 0x0000000000034ed9
Faulting process id: 0xdb4
Faulting application start time: 0x01d7a809834ece16
Faulting application path: C:\Modding\Tools\xLODGen\xLODGenx64.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\System32\KERNELBASE.dll
Report Id: 85846250-180d-4139-a9c2-65187cf99e02
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID: 

So I am assuming that this is a hardware/firmware issue with OS and/or xLODGen64. Still running from scratch with the latest version you posted to see if I can get a bug report.

Posted

well here i am again..

1. i just about knew i need re-run texgen and dyndolod after i change tree and grass mod or it has a large update (I'm really too lazy to re-run the program for a small fix and change of a grass mod and wait a hour), but what exactly object talking about? i assume not the texture mod?

2. when do i need re-run xlodgen? after what kind of mod i changed?

3. and use new dyndolod update Occlusion.esp for every dyndolod re-run is necessary? like if i just re-run dyndolod for tree mod update?

Posted
19 minutes ago, DoubleYou said:

@z929669 I'd wipe out the xLODGen folder, redownload, and reinstall. Never seen this issue, and your modlist should be virtually the same as mine for STEP 2.0. Just regenned yesterday and no issues.

I've done that before, but just did it again. Curiously, I still have my same xLODGen config, so it doesn't appear that any settings are saved in the install directory but rather in the registry or profile somewhere.

I wonder if I need to wipe out any config files located elsewhere (?) or registry settings?

Posted
1 hour ago, reeee said:

well here i am again..

1. i just about knew i need re-run texgen and dyndolod after i change tree and grass mod or it has a large update (I'm really too lazy to re-run the program for a small fix and change of a grass mod and wait a hour), but what exactly object talking about? i assume not the texture mod?

2. when do i need re-run xlodgen? after what kind of mod i changed?

3. and use new dyndolod update Occlusion.esp for every dyndolod re-run is necessary? like if i just re-run dyndolod for tree mod update?

LOD only looks and works correctly for the load order it was generated for. Update it if you notice visual issues.

There is nothing new about occlusion generation xLODGen/DynDOLOD. Only that DynDOLOD can now also generate the dedicated file to save the the extra step of starting xLODGen to generate it.

Posted
4 hours ago, DoubleYou said:

@z929669 I'd try wiping the following file: %LocalAppData%\Skyrim Special Edition\Plugins.sseviewsettings

That's where you SSEEdit settings appear to be stored.

Good find. This didn't work unfortunately.

But fortunately, I did get a clean run of ALL worldspaces just prior to disabling this. That hasn't happened since v7x or whatever preceded the version where this began for me a few months ago.

@sheson I suspect this bug report has nothing to do with my continued issues with crashing, but maybe it will be helpful:

[04:46] c:\modding\tools\xlodgen\xlodgen_output\textures\terrain\tamriel\tamriel.16.-32.32_n.dds
[04:49] Error creating textures for level 4 quad [-8,32] Assertion failure (C:\Delphi\Projects\xEdit\Core\wbImplementation.pas, line 17347)
[04:53] Error creating textures for level 8 quad [-8,32] Error creating textures for level 4 quad [-8,32] Assertion failure (C:\Delphi\Projects\xEdit\Core\wbImplementation.pas, line 17347)
[04:57] Error creating textures for level 16 quad [-16,32] Error creating textures for level 8 quad [-8,32] Error creating textures for level 4 quad [-8,32] Assertion failure (C:\Delphi\Projects\xEdit\Core\wbImplementation.pas, line 17347)
Error creating textures for level 16 quad [-16,32] Error creating textures for level 8 quad [-8,32] Error creating textures for level 4 quad [-8,32] Assertion failure (C:\Delphi\Projects\xEdit\Core\wbImplementation.pas, line 17347)

bugreport.txt

EDIT: Perhaps it is useful to keep in mind that I have no such issues with xEdit or DynDOLODa41, and I believe they can rule out certain potential issues with xLODGen

Posted
6 hours ago, z929669 said:

Good find. This didn't work unfortunately.

But fortunately, I did get a clean run of ALL worldspaces just prior to disabling this. That hasn't happened since v7x or whatever preceded the version where this began for me a few months ago.

@sheson I suspect this bug report has nothing to do with my continued issues with crashing, but maybe it will be helpful:


[04:46] c:\modding\tools\xlodgen\xlodgen_output\textures\terrain\tamriel\tamriel.16.-32.32_n.dds
[04:49] Error creating textures for level 4 quad [-8,32] Assertion failure (C:\Delphi\Projects\xEdit\Core\wbImplementation.pas, line 17347)
[04:53] Error creating textures for level 8 quad [-8,32] Error creating textures for level 4 quad [-8,32] Assertion failure (C:\Delphi\Projects\xEdit\Core\wbImplementation.pas, line 17347)
[04:57] Error creating textures for level 16 quad [-16,32] Error creating textures for level 8 quad [-8,32] Error creating textures for level 4 quad [-8,32] Assertion failure (C:\Delphi\Projects\xEdit\Core\wbImplementation.pas, line 17347)
Error creating textures for level 16 quad [-16,32] Error creating textures for level 8 quad [-8,32] Error creating textures for level 4 quad [-8,32] Assertion failure (C:\Delphi\Projects\xEdit\Core\wbImplementation.pas, line 17347)

bugreport.txt 284.29 kB · 0 downloads

EDIT: Perhaps it is useful to keep in mind that I have no such issues with xEdit or DynDOLODa41, and I believe they can rule out certain potential issues with xLODGen

Check the 16 cells -8, 32 to -5, 35  and their LAND records if they have overwrites from plugins or anything unusual. The layers will also link to LTEX landscape texture record. Check those as well.

xEdit/DynDOLOD do not generate terrain LOD textures and do not access the LAND record terrain layers in any way.

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