DROPPED Skyrim Flora Overhaul (by vurt)

[Aiyen]

Ah fair enough I have misunderstood that part then! My bad! :)

 

In that case then I entirely agree with you! And as I recall from way back then I did not get any FPS increase from using his suggested values. They first start to happen when you get up to 100 or above. Which is also why I have always suggested that people start at that value and not the ones he recommends if they want more FPS.

 

However if I where to use the same values with your settings then the grass got a bit too sparse due to their small size, hence why I use the mod at all. But yeah his non goldilock version has silly large plants... I think the goldilock hits that golden spot of size vs. coverage really nicely.

[DoYouEvenModBro]

Ah fair enough I have misunderstood that part then! My bad! :)

 

In that case then I entirely agree with you! And as I recall from way back then I did not get any FPS increase from using his suggested values. They first start to happen when you get up to 100 or above. Which is also why I have always suggested that people start at that value and not the ones he recommends if they want more FPS.

 

However if I where to use the same values with your settings then the grass got a bit too sparse due to their small size, hence why I use the mod at all. But yeah his non goldilock version has silly large plants... I think the goldilock hits that golden spot of size vs. coverage really nicely.

You mean his goldilock version DID hit that golden spot. There's no telling if he'll update it :-/.

[vurt]

@Aiyen

 

No worries, maybe i wasnt very clear what i was trying to show.

[DoYouEvenModBro]

Now that that's over....can someone help me with my High-Res Pines/Recolored Pines & LoDs question :-D. I asked it above. 

[z929669]

Now that that's over....can someone help me with my High-Res Pines/Recolored Pines & LoDs question :-D. I asked it above. 

If you use Recolored Basic for 181b (works fine for all Basic versions), you will overwrite the LOD as well as two snowy pines diffuse maps. I made those two diffuse maps a bit whiter and reduced the yellow tint a bit to blend better with the LOD and to look a bit 'snowier' overall.

 

So if you overwrite Hi-Res Pines with Recolored, you will lose Hi-Res snowy pines and go back to the standard res for those. I would advise against Hi-Res Pines unless you are not installing many other mods, as this is quite taxing and largely defeats the purpose of using Basic.

 

Alternatively, you could delete the snowy pines from Recolored, and you will get hi res versions, but they will be yellow-ish against the snowy-pine LOD (ENB will likely exacerbate). I can create the hi-res recolored as well though. Just not at the moment ;)

[DoYouEvenModBro]

Now that that's over....can someone help me with my High-Res Pines/Recolored Pines & LoDs question :-D. I asked it above. 

If you use Recolored Basic for 181b (works fine for all Basic versions), you will overwrite the LOD as well as two snowy pines diffuse maps. I made those two diffuse maps a bit whiter and reduced the yellow tint a bit to blend better with the LOD and to look a bit 'snowier' overall.

 

So if you overwrite Hi-Res Pines with Recolored, you will lose Hi-Res snowy pines and go back to the standard res for those. I would advise against Hi-Res Pines unless you are not installing many other mods, as this is quite taxing and largely defeats the purpose of using Basic.

 

Alternatively, you could delete the snowy pines from Recolored, and you will get hi res versions, but they will be yellow-ish against the snowy-pine LOD (ENB will likely exacerbate). I can create the hi-res recolored as well though. Just not at the moment ;)

I know that high-res pines are taxing on my system but I love them and have always used them. They just add immersion for me. What if I overwrite the recolored pines/lods with high-res pines? 

[TechAngel85]

With GoS: https://piclair.com/data/lhtlm.jpg

Only SFO: https://piclair.com/data/7qsob.jpg

 

GoS: iMinGrassSize=75

SFO: iMinGrassSize=20

 

FPS is in the upper left (same for both, no FPS boost). I checked in a few other places too, no difference in FPS (+/-1).

 

Imo, it doesnt look very good. The grass was so large it was sometimes difficult to see anything in first person. Sure, the coverage is great because the plants are absolutely enormous, fern blades large as a whole person in third person.. Lupins large as trees almost: https://piclair.com/data/e8jf9.jpg

 

But whatever, people have different taste :) but that FPS boost some people claim, i think you should test it yourselves.. Placebo is a powerful thing ;) and when you test you obviously must test from the exact same spot (from a save).

Nope, doesn't look good to me either. Skyrim is not Pandora.

Sure, here's one with =10:

https://piclair.com/data/l7ept.jpg

 

as you can see 10 is really dropping the performance in latest versions.. 20 is probably as low as i would go. Actually i would mind to see some more of ground heh, i was out in the forest walking 2 days ago and it struck me how little grass there actually is in most places, it's mostly just different small plants and lots of their green (and now yellowing) leaves a lot of visible ground too, it's not like a forest is usually thick with grass, at least not pine forests.

I actually use a setting of 40. A) to get a bit better performance and B) because as you mention here, Vurt, real forests don't have a lot of vegetation so the bit sparser grass looks more realistic to me.

[z929669]

 

Now that that's over....can someone help me with my High-Res Pines/Recolored Pines & LoDs question :-D. I asked it above. 

If you use Recolored Basic for 181b (works fine for all Basic versions), you will overwrite the LOD as well as two snowy pines diffuse maps. I made those two diffuse maps a bit whiter and reduced the yellow tint a bit to blend better with the LOD and to look a bit 'snowier' overall.

 

So if you overwrite Hi-Res Pines with Recolored, you will lose Hi-Res snowy pines and go back to the standard res for those. I would advise against Hi-Res Pines unless you are not installing many other mods, as this is quite taxing and largely defeats the purpose of using Basic.

 

Alternatively, you could delete the snowy pines from Recolored, and you will get hi res versions, but they will be yellow-ish against the snowy-pine LOD (ENB will likely exacerbate). I can create the hi-res recolored as well though. Just not at the moment ;)

I know that high-res pines are taxing on my system but I love them and have always used them. They just add immersion for me. What if I overwrite the recolored pines/lods with high-res pines? 

 

Not sure. I have never looked at Hi-res Pines against any LOD.

[DoYouEvenModBro]

 

 

Now that that's over....can someone help me with my High-Res Pines/Recolored Pines & LoDs question :-D. I asked it above. 

If you use Recolored Basic for 181b (works fine for all Basic versions), you will overwrite the LOD as well as two snowy pines diffuse maps. I made those two diffuse maps a bit whiter and reduced the yellow tint a bit to blend better with the LOD and to look a bit 'snowier' overall.

 

So if you overwrite Hi-Res Pines with Recolored, you will lose Hi-Res snowy pines and go back to the standard res for those. I would advise against Hi-Res Pines unless you are not installing many other mods, as this is quite taxing and largely defeats the purpose of using Basic.

 

Alternatively, you could delete the snowy pines from Recolored, and you will get hi res versions, but they will be yellow-ish against the snowy-pine LOD (ENB will likely exacerbate). I can create the hi-res recolored as well though. Just not at the moment ;)

I know that high-res pines are taxing on my system but I love them and have always used them. They just add immersion for me. What if I overwrite the recolored pines/lods with high-res pines? 

Not sure. I have never looked at Hi-res Pines against any LOD.

When you say that I lose the hi-res snowy pines, do you mean that I lose them in only the LoDs? Or on every tree?

[z929669]

 

 

 

Now that that's over....can someone help me with my High-Res Pines/Recolored Pines & LoDs question :-D. I asked it above. 

If you use Recolored Basic for 181b (works fine for all Basic versions), you will overwrite the LOD as well as two snowy pines diffuse maps. I made those two diffuse maps a bit whiter and reduced the yellow tint a bit to blend better with the LOD and to look a bit 'snowier' overall.

 

So if you overwrite Hi-Res Pines with Recolored, you will lose Hi-Res snowy pines and go back to the standard res for those. I would advise against Hi-Res Pines unless you are not installing many other mods, as this is quite taxing and largely defeats the purpose of using Basic.

 

Alternatively, you could delete the snowy pines from Recolored, and you will get hi res versions, but they will be yellow-ish against the snowy-pine LOD (ENB will likely exacerbate). I can create the hi-res recolored as well though. Just not at the moment ;)

I know that high-res pines are taxing on my system but I love them and have always used them. They just add immersion for me. What if I overwrite the recolored pines/lods with high-res pines? 

Not sure. I have never looked at Hi-res Pines against any LOD.

When you say that I lose the hi-res snowy pines, do you mean that I lose them in only the LoDs? Or on every tree?

I just looked at Hi-Res Pines (4k & 8k), and they deo not conflict at all with the Recolored textures. Hi-Res only affects the non-snowy pines, so your snowy pines are coming from Basic or Regular version. Recolored should be fully compatible if Hi_Res is based on same source as the current Regular and Basic versions.

[DoYouEvenModBro]

 

 

 

 

Now that that's over....can someone help me with my High-Res Pines/Recolored Pines & LoDs question :-D. I asked it above. 

If you use Recolored Basic for 181b (works fine for all Basic versions), you will overwrite the LOD as well as two snowy pines diffuse maps. I made those two diffuse maps a bit whiter and reduced the yellow tint a bit to blend better with the LOD and to look a bit 'snowier' overall.

 

So if you overwrite Hi-Res Pines with Recolored, you will lose Hi-Res snowy pines and go back to the standard res for those. I would advise against Hi-Res Pines unless you are not installing many other mods, as this is quite taxing and largely defeats the purpose of using Basic.

 

Alternatively, you could delete the snowy pines from Recolored, and you will get hi res versions, but they will be yellow-ish against the snowy-pine LOD (ENB will likely exacerbate). I can create the hi-res recolored as well though. Just not at the moment ;)

I know that high-res pines are taxing on my system but I love them and have always used them. They just add immersion for me. What if I overwrite the recolored pines/lods with high-res pines? 

Not sure. I have never looked at Hi-res Pines against any LOD.

When you say that I lose the hi-res snowy pines, do you mean that I lose them in only the LoDs? Or on every tree?

I just looked at Hi-Res Pines (4k & 8k), and they deo not conflict at all with the Recolored textures. Hi-Res only affects the non-snowy pines, so your snowy pines are coming from Basic or Regular version. Recolored should be fully compatible if Hi_Res is based on same source as the current Regular and Basic versions.

So in that case I guess the install order doesn't matter.

[Neovalen]

== Changelog v1.86 ==

 

* fixed the missing wind animations (some were too slow, some were missing completely)

* flower fields. Now flowers spawns as whole fields (ranging from small to large) instead of here and there, one by one

* improved or recreated many of the bushes, some were too dark, too bright or too solid

* more varied grass heights for the most common grass

* recreated the most common grass type

* more natural color for sword ferns

* improved color on the green pines (and in the LOD)

* a few improvments to the tundra

* 1 new texture and mesh for the fall forests + it now spawns the yellowing leaves/plants groundcover (forestgrass02)

* Marshes now have a bit more grass

* cleaned the mod from unused textures

 

Assuming z will come along and update things accordingly before long. :)

[EssArrBee]

== Changelog v1.86 ==

 

* fixed the missing wind animations (some were too slow, some were missing completely)

* flower fields. Now flowers spawns as whole fields (ranging from small to large) instead of here and there, one by one

* improved or recreated many of the bushes, some were too dark, too bright or too solid

* more varied grass heights for the most common grass

* recreated the most common grass type

* more natural color for sword ferns

* improved color on the green pines (and in the LOD)

* a few improvments to the tundra

* 1 new texture and mesh for the fall forests + it now spawns the yellowing leaves/plants groundcover (forestgrass02)

* Marshes now have a bit more grass

* cleaned the mod from unused textures

Assuming z will come along and update things accordingly before long. :)

Vurt usually updates about 50 times in a two week span before taking a break, so it is usually best to wait until he slows down the updates.

[TechAngel85]

I downloaded 1.86, but will be waiting at least a week before downloading any more of the releases. There are a few authors that when they get on a role, it's just best to wait.

[Aiyen]

Yeah the guy is blooming! (Could not resist!)

 

Some of the changes sound really interesting, and I really do look forward to what he decides on!

Now that I have the tree and LOD textures made so that they fit my setup, then its just a matter of waiting! :)