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Also I've found the Unofficial Patch bug is fixed by using Bash 307, which does have New Vegas support, you just have to install over top of version 17.5.  I kept getting "Access Violation" errors when trying to actually make a Smashed patch.

 

edit2: I've gotten a pretty good, lean load order put together thus far:

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
FalloutNV.esm
DeadMoney.esm
HonestHearts.esm
OldWorldBlues.esm
LonesomeRoad.esm
GunRunnersArsenal.esm
ClassicPack.esm
MercenaryPack.esm
TribalPack.esm
CaravanPack.esm
ACES - Casino Data Extension.esm
YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm
NewVegasUncut.esm
oHUD.esm
Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm
StreetLights.esm
Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm
NewVegasUncut - StreetLights.esm
YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp
Vurt's WFO.esp
NVCE Main.esp
Better Pickup Prompt.esp
JIP Improved Recipe Menu.esp
The Mod Configuration Menu.esp
The Weapon Mod Menu.esp
Tutorial Killer.esp
New Vegas Landscape Overhaul.esp
Mojave Open.esp
LootMenu.esp
OWB-Path Lights.esp
GRA-WRP-Patch-Two_Unofficial.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp
IMPACT.esp
ImmersivePickupSoundsFNV.esp
JSawyer Ultimate.esp
Simple DLC Delay.esp
Harvestable Cave Fungus.esp
vault22FloralOverhaul.esp
ADAM - Trooper Gloves.esp
Mojave Arsenal.esp
JSawyer Ultimate - Mojave Arsenal Patch.esp
BLEEDNV - Final.esp
Ragdolls.esp
ACES - Casino Overhaul.esp
Alternative Repairing.esp
All Weapon Sounds Overhaul.esp
christinecos.esp
Book of Steel.esp
Legion Quests Expanded.esp
Unofficial Patch Plus.esp
ADAM Complete.esp
ADAM - MERGE.esp
Simple Reputation and Disguises.esp
Strip Wall Billboards.esp
PMT - Rude Awakening.esp
OldGhoulEye.esp
Pip-Boy Light - Vanilla.esp
MBOWBExtended100.esp
ExtendedNVRadio.esp
SecretStash80.esp
hz_Automatic Weapons Fix.esp
hz_1 by 1 Reload Fix.esp
CIB Bighorners - HH.esp
CIB Bighorners Var.esp
FOVSlider.esp
Dynamic Quantity Prompt.esp
Immersive Karma.esp
PMT - Responsive Kill Reactions.esp
CASM with MCM.esp
Brotherhood and House Alliance.esp
Character Creation Streamlined.esp
ImmersiveRecoil.esp
Caesar Brotherhood.esp
ChiefHanlonCaesarDyingFix.esp
SaveCass.esp
DeanTurnaround.esp
ManualReload.esp
ManualReload-OldWorldBlues.esp
Alternative Repairing - Additional Campfires.esp
NukaCola-Ojo.esp
Mojave Open-YUP Patch.esp
Alternative Repairing - Ultimate Edition.esp
Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp
ILO - YUP Patch.esp
FNVLODGen.esp
tmzLODadditions.esp
FNVMerged.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
FNV Realistic Wasteland Lighting - Enhanced.esp

Not going with WMX/Project Nevada or anything this go, just JSawyer Ultimate and some tweak mods and a bunch of retextures.  Game is very stable compared to my traditional Project Nevada load orders - PN is a FPS hog, which sucks because it does offer some good QoL.  I've read that it is due to the hitscan code.  I tried Grenade Hotkey but was disappointed to find it added stuff like Nuka Grenades, etc. outside the scope of just being a Grenade Hotkey mod.

Not sure that 307 has support for as many record types as the current Flash NV version.

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GOAT

 

Also I've found the Unofficial Patch bug is fixed by using Bash 307, which does have New Vegas support, you just have to install over top of version 17.5.  I kept getting "Access Violation" errors when trying to actually make a Smashed patch.

 

edit2: I've gotten a pretty good, lean load order put together thus far:

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
FalloutNV.esm
DeadMoney.esm
HonestHearts.esm
OldWorldBlues.esm
LonesomeRoad.esm
GunRunnersArsenal.esm
ClassicPack.esm
MercenaryPack.esm
TribalPack.esm
CaravanPack.esm
ACES - Casino Data Extension.esm
YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm
NewVegasUncut.esm
oHUD.esm
Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm
StreetLights.esm
Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm
NewVegasUncut - StreetLights.esm
YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp
Vurt's WFO.esp
NVCE Main.esp
Better Pickup Prompt.esp
JIP Improved Recipe Menu.esp
The Mod Configuration Menu.esp
The Weapon Mod Menu.esp
Tutorial Killer.esp
New Vegas Landscape Overhaul.esp
Mojave Open.esp
LootMenu.esp
OWB-Path Lights.esp
GRA-WRP-Patch-Two_Unofficial.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp
IMPACT.esp
ImmersivePickupSoundsFNV.esp
JSawyer Ultimate.esp
Simple DLC Delay.esp
Harvestable Cave Fungus.esp
vault22FloralOverhaul.esp
ADAM - Trooper Gloves.esp
Mojave Arsenal.esp
JSawyer Ultimate - Mojave Arsenal Patch.esp
BLEEDNV - Final.esp
Ragdolls.esp
ACES - Casino Overhaul.esp
Alternative Repairing.esp
All Weapon Sounds Overhaul.esp
christinecos.esp
Book of Steel.esp
Legion Quests Expanded.esp
Unofficial Patch Plus.esp
ADAM Complete.esp
ADAM - MERGE.esp
Simple Reputation and Disguises.esp
Strip Wall Billboards.esp
PMT - Rude Awakening.esp
OldGhoulEye.esp
Pip-Boy Light - Vanilla.esp
MBOWBExtended100.esp
ExtendedNVRadio.esp
SecretStash80.esp
hz_Automatic Weapons Fix.esp
hz_1 by 1 Reload Fix.esp
CIB Bighorners - HH.esp
CIB Bighorners Var.esp
FOVSlider.esp
Dynamic Quantity Prompt.esp
Immersive Karma.esp
PMT - Responsive Kill Reactions.esp
CASM with MCM.esp
Brotherhood and House Alliance.esp
Character Creation Streamlined.esp
ImmersiveRecoil.esp
Caesar Brotherhood.esp
ChiefHanlonCaesarDyingFix.esp
SaveCass.esp
DeanTurnaround.esp
ManualReload.esp
ManualReload-OldWorldBlues.esp
Alternative Repairing - Additional Campfires.esp
NukaCola-Ojo.esp
Mojave Open-YUP Patch.esp
Alternative Repairing - Ultimate Edition.esp
Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp
ILO - YUP Patch.esp
FNVLODGen.esp
tmzLODadditions.esp
FNVMerged.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
FNV Realistic Wasteland Lighting - Enhanced.esp

Not going with WMX/Project Nevada or anything this go, just JSawyer Ultimate and some tweak mods and a bunch of retextures.  Game is very stable compared to my traditional Project Nevada load orders - PN is a FPS hog, which sucks because it does offer some good QoL.  I've read that it is due to the hitscan code.  I tried Grenade Hotkey but was disappointed to find it added stuff like Nuka Grenades, etc. outside the scope of just being a Grenade Hotkey mod.

I like JSawyer Ult, and I tried running with it for a while. Problem is that there are a number of conflicts with NV Uncut, at least as far as the F&L merge goes.  JSawyer adds cut content like NPCs as well, which makes for twins. The cut Wasteland Adventurer at the crossroads between Goodsprings/Primm is oneyou can easily check. 

 

I don't actually encounter FPS issues with PN, and I know this is relative by system. I do find that it *feels* like it effects FPS with it's speed adjustment. Something about it makes the screen hitch just a little. Setting running speed to vanilla helps me. 

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Interesting, I'll have to diff my two patches. I've got both running side by side so it shouldn't be too hard. According to some posts on The Internet, 307 seems to have most of the support Flash does, but I'll confirm.

How do you get 307 to support FNV? It seems to only want to work with FO4 and Skyrim for me. 

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Aren't unknown edits JIP/Lutana/NVSE stuff?  I have a few mods with unknown edits that do similar things.  Although with 307 I can actually build the patch, vs 17.4 that chokes as soon as Unofficial Patch Plus is loaded or referenced.  Hmmm.

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So just to update I did diff my bashed patch from 17.4 and the one from the 307 EXP and it seems like all the records in 17.4 are present in 307.  I need to dive deep into which ones exactly, but I'm currently having too much fun playing :P

 

I did end up making a manual merged patch to resolve a bunch of conflicts (Mostly with Uncut, Jsawyer, and NVCE)

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Just to add on - make sure to use ENB 173 for New Vegas, which is the last version that supported hardware AA.  I am not aware of another way to force it on higher versions.

 

https://enbdev.com/mod_falloutnv_v0173.htm

I went there and downloaded 173 on your advice and the readme file says "Also this version

do not support hardware antialiasing, because of method to capture scene depth (vendor hack),"
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Finally done with the fixes section of the guide and finished with BethINI. I want to test run in-game for the first time. In MO do I launch with NVSE or New Vegas or New Vegas Launcher? (note I have already applied the 4GB patch) Thanks.

Does this result in ini configuration files very different from the ones manually tweaked by the guide? I'm also going to try this.

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I went there and downloaded 173 on your advice and the readme file says "Also this version

do not support hardware antialiasing, because of method to capture scene depth (vendor hack),"

 

Try following this guide from Gopher: 

 

Granted this method is old and I wouldn't be surprised if at some point hardware AA compatibility was just written out entirely.  I'm using Lucent ENB which comes with some decent SMAA (combined with the edge AA of ENB, works pretty good.)

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I don't think so, but I haven't cleaned any mods for FNV and have only used LOOT as a one time sort, then manually resolved conflicts.

 

Also if you haven't seen, the 4GB limit for DX9 games on Win10 has been defeated in the latest insider builds of Windows 10 - https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/6k58mf/dx9_4gb_memory_issue_should_be_fixed_in_new/

 

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