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    Yeah, current STEP seems best.
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    Thanks ... I know that we have compared AMB to vanilla, but that was LE. It seems like any vanilla SE texture is fair game for a reevaluation if it has been enhanced (no idea if that's the case for chaurus stuff). Outside of the banding you found, I like superior best (and also because it restores the vanilla chaurus with an improved and more vanilla friendly version. Otherwise, I think current STEP is best for all others.
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    Hybrids is true to vanilla and looks to be using the vanilla texture for the entire plant but for the flowers/receptacle and the buds. I actually like the vanilla flowers/receptacles best, but Hybrids adds a bit of variation to the little buds. If vanilla SE plants all look as good or better than Hybrid's variants, then I question using that mod as well. I vote not to use Mari's thistle.
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    I think this is true. Quality of quick may be theoretically better, but you will never see the diff if that's the case. @Lexy sheson has verified indirectly that terrain probably doesn't use mips for diffuse, and I tested that it probably does not for normals either (VRAM is pretty much unchanged with/without). Makes sense too, because terrain probably just doesn't need mips, and I don't see how there would be any benefit. The detail is really not as important as blending for terrain LOD. Also, the settings on the wiki right now are probably overkill. The settings Tech found in a previous post seem to be just as good with half the size and time and slightly better performance. I'm still running a big set of compares under varying conditions, but the final result looks to be closer to Tech's settings. I even have some evidence that the xLODGen result may not be as good as just skipping this part of LOD gen ... at least with Cathedral Landscapes. Terrain LOD Gen seems to bork the otherwise nice blending of CL landscapes with landscape objects ... final determination coming soon in a post to this thread.,
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    Indeed. Just a baaad idea. @tech I mean a closeup of the tree in the OP ... The pine cloeseup looks softer with CSSET ... could be why it loses more detail in mips. The problem with batch editing anything is that you may fix some issues and introduce others that don't fit the batch specs. Unless the result is a net gain in performance or appearance, it's not worth it. So far, I'm not sure if this is a net benefit or not, so I will defer to your judgement.
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    I vastly prefer Hybrid's. Maris looks like it adds grass that is totally out of place. Thistle is not a monocot and would never grow any grassy leaves, and it is very hardy. Curious: what does vanilla look like? Even Hybrid's leaves don't look like thistle (which has many varieties, so some leeway is understandable). I think we should try to include vanilla for replacers if it's not current STEP, since that is what we are trying to improve upon. SE vanilla may be better than we remember with LE vanilla when we decided on the current replacer.
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    I think Hybrids is best. CL looks pale and out of place with surroundings. Mari's is good, but too dark.
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    Subtle but better. Is 4k necessary though? I suspect the 2/2 and possibly 2/1 will be equally superior.
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    Agree. The map just shouldn't have clouds. Then we'll also be able to compare map in screens. Clouds obviate that exercise completely.
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    So the chaurus shot is a compare against AMB? Very different texture. Can you add vanilla to the compares? I.e., disable AMB and SR? Agree that this mod may be an improvement, but not sure if it's better than vanilla or SR (AMB chaurus looks good, too, but which is closer to vanilla?)
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    Vanilla or CSSET? Your texture? Confused, since we are looking at CSSET in this thread. At close range, I do think "my texture" looks better. In that further range, they just look different. Mips both appear to be honoring the original . If it's a mipmapping issue, then the tree screen in OP would need to be compared close up vs further away. The compare textures for that tree in particular look VERY different, and the shot is at fairly close range. I'd like to see that particular tree close up before making a determination. It could be diff in the alpha of the base texture itself. I also think it's a very bad idea for the author to 'replace' the default game BSAs. It's asking for trouble, and I'll bet it won't last. Agree that there is not a huge diff from vanilla in the screens posted. However, the biggest diffs would indeed appear to be mips or alpha on the mips. I actually think the mips may be better in CSSET based on that screen of the woman (look at the change in the tree behind her). But I would need to see a closeup of that tree to be sure.
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    Yeah, that was my fault. I wasn't clear about some of the details behind the settings and mods behind the screens. It's all clear to me now The gen time for your xLODGen Output in each of the relevant runs would be most helpful.
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    I see that now. Fixed White Phial. Sometimes different quality options are packaged together as BAIN or FOMOD. But MM isn't one of those. I still need to make other edits to that one, so I haven't fixed it yet.
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    Updated
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    I made some adjustments but for White Phial ... that does not have any LQ/HQ options. It just changes the mesh size of the phial. Keep in mind that the quality options are relative to baseline. These options should only be shown where baseline is not null (and vise versa). E.g., if baseline is the LQ option, then LQ would not be shown in the quality options.
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    I'm looking into all of this and will post back when finished.
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    OK, so to button up what the issue was for you: INI TerrainManager settings were being dynamically altered by "SSE FPS Stabilizer" mod? Meaning that it was the skyrimprefs.ini [TerrainManager] settings?
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    @Tech I will get started today if you get back to me about the Majestic Mountains LOD. There are separate files for DynDOLOD and for xLODGen, and the guide only mentions one without saying which. I think we should be using BOTH and activating one for xLODGen and the other for DynDOLOD and then deactivating both when finished with LOD gen. EDIT: Looks like both archives have all of the same textures, but the xLODGen textures are higher res for most or same res. The DynDOLOD archive also includes meshes. It seems like they could be combined by organizing xLODGen BAIN structure like DynDOLOD's and copying xLODGen --> DynDOLOD with xLODGen overwriting DynDOLOD and keeping DynDOLOD only. I'm not clear why the DynDOLOD textures are lower res or shy the author has included two basically redundant installers. It may take a while to generate the LOD variants and assemble all of the data before I can post, so probably tomorrow or this weekend. @DY Can you explain the effects of this setting as it is raised or lowered from "4.00" ... I assume decimals are valid, due to the default numeric format. Also, our INI Settings description of this is Also, the screen for that doesn't make sense for the highest value shown (1.5) ... LOD detail progressively increases at higher LOD levels as this value increases, but the highest value is showing a change at like LOD8-ish. Lastly, the description of this setting does not explain exactly what is being multiplied (fBlockLevels directly or the diff between fBlockLevels? Does it effectively increase fBlockLevels for LOD4/8/16 or does it override these values?)
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    OK, but those are default for ultra. Try increasing them, load game, compare screens to verify your assumption. Try something like this: [TerrainManager] fBlockLevel0Distance=70000.0000 fBlockLevel1Distance=300000.0000 fBlockMaximumDistance=350000.0000 fSplitDistanceMult=4.0000 fTreeLoadDistance=150000.0000If it works, then isolate which may be affecting tree LOD in your case by throttling all but the value in question.
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    I think this is likely due to certain INI settings at least in part, but someone chime in if there is more to it: [TerrainManager] fBlockLevel0Distance=50000.0000 fBlockLevel1Distance=72500.0000 fBlockMaximumDistance=94000.0000 fSplitDistanceMult=4.0000 fTreeLoadDistance=72500.0000I'm not sure if tree LOD display is locked to LOD levels 4/8/16 (fBlockLevel*Distance & fBlockMaximumDistance) or strictly governed by fTreeLoadDistance, but you could try increasing some of those values to check. At least you don't need to regenerate DynDOLOD to do this ;)
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    I'm using BethINI presets for ultra, so it seems appropriate unless you suggest something different for 'best' LOD compares? PS: BethINI LOD8 (fBlockLevel1Distance) description references "level 4" description rather than "level 8" ... very minor but FYI
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    I believe that sheson mentioned that while LOD32 is the map, it also is the distant LOD in game, so I was just wondering why you went higher res here. I think he has also mentioned that baking normals is mostly beneficial if res is ≥ 512, but I forget the specific context ... regardless, I think 512 should be the minimum recommended with quality Anyway, I will generate same compares with same settings on my machine.
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    @tech I'm not totally clear on your settings above. Is this correct? STEP - no xLOGGen files; CL LOD included; HD Terrain light noise map included (terrain in the screens seems very light, and the CL noise texture makes terrain LOD much darker that what I'm seeing in your screens) LOD-Quality=0 - xLODGen settings as indicated in STEP guide now; HD Terrain light noise map included (looks like CL noise map or no HDT noise map though, because it is darker than STEP) LOD-Quality=10 - xLODGen settings as indicated in STEP guide now but with quality = 10 at all levels; HD Terrain light noise map included (looks like CL noise or no HDT noise map though, because it is darker than STEP) LOD-Custom - xLODGen settings as indicated in screens posted; HD Terrain light noise map included (looks like CL noise or no HDT noise map though, because it is darker than STEP) NOTE: your LOD32 is 512, which is not ≤ LOD16, which is 256 ... you implied differently in your post.Just asking because it's easy to mess up the settings and active mods between runs, since there is so much to keep track of. And if there is uncertainty, then it's hard to make determinations. PS: Also, for "STEP" compare, if using CL LOD and no xLODGen LOD, are you using TexGen+DynDOLOD? Just wondering if those could affect the terrain LOD in any way either directly or indirectly. I assume TexGen+DynDOLOD outputs are same in all compares but not sure if it would even make a difference. Also, we should probably be posting our [TerrainManager] INI settings for reference ad DY mentions. I will add that to my post and those going forward.
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    Cool. Guide/changelog updated?
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    Using The Choice Is Yours mod is therefore even better than not using it ... it is literally "your choice" with the mod, so not sure why anyone wouldn't want to use it in any mod build unless it is incompatible with something else being used (which can be fixed with a patch).
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