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FPS Drop on cerntain areas.

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In this particular area my FPS drops from 60 to 40. I thought it is just a "hiccup" but the FPS stays at 40. my fps on other areas is at a steady 60, with fps "hiccups" sometimes on new areas.
anybody knows how to fix this. to make it a steady 60?
 
this happens only on some forest areas. and sometimes when there are enemy npcs moving/attacking.
please help me with this :D thank you! :) 
 
Specs:

CPU - i5 4430
MOBO - Z87MX-D3H
GRAPHIC CARD - STRIX-GTX960-DC2OC-2GD5 
Ram - Crosair XMS3 4GB ( 2pcs )
PSU - Silverstone Strider Plus 600W
Heat Sink - cooler master si seidon 120v
Casing - Cooler Master CM Storm Scout 2
Hard Drive - 1TB WD Black

 

 

 

My Mod List (Reversed >.,<)

 

 

+Bash
+No Helmet Mod
+FNIS PATCH
+Barbarian Hair
+Pretty Female Idles
+FNIS Sexy Move
+Weightless Items
+KenMOD - Lockpick Pro - Cheat
+Serious HD Retexture Skyrim 1k RIFTEN
+More Realistic Hair
+Fences of Skyrim - No more flickering fences
+ApachiiSkyHair
+ApachiiSkyHair natural Retexture
+Helmet Toggle - Show Hide
+bronze shadow effect
+melt down weapon and armor
+Remove Underwater Grass - A Performance Mod
+Skyrim Project Optimization
+Grass on Steroids - a grass mod that gives FPS BOOST and Dense Grass
+DFB - Disable Mining Anim
+Simple Crosshair
+Blocksteal Redux - Prevents accidentally pick up
+Cloaks of Skyrim
+Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix
+No stretching distant mountain sometimes
+Unlimited Weapon Charges
+Glowing Ore Veins 300
+Feminine Running and New Dash Animation
+No Friendly Fire
+XP32 Maximum Skeleton - XPMS
+Visible Windows
+Super Realistic Ore Textures
+TreesHD_Skyrim_Variation
+Project Reality - Climates Of Tamriel-V3
+XCE - Dawnguard
+No More Blocky Faces
+DIMONIZED UNP female body
+Sexy Vanilla Female Armor for UNP and SevenBase with BBP
+Pretty Face
+XCE - Xenius Character Enhancement
+Better Females by Bella
+Smaller Cursor
+SkyUI
+SKYRIM PERFORMANCE PLUS The Rift - Aspen Leaves FX - Good Performance
+SKYRIM PERFORMANCE PLUS Snowfall FX
+SKYRIM PERFORMANCE PLUS Rainfall FX
+Skyrim Coin Replacer Redux
+Skyrim -Community- Uncapper
+Septim HD 1 point
+Realistic Water Two
+Remove Smoke v1
+Realistic Ragdolls and Force
+RaceMenu v3-2
+NO SPINNING DEATH Merged
+Lanterns of Skyrim - All In One
+IMPROVED WEAPON IMPACT clean version by RPSGC
+Immersive HUD - iHUD
+HQ Snow Texture
+Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS
+Follower Trap Safety
+Enhanced Blood Textures
+Dead Body Collision Fix
+Convenient Horses
+Clothing and Clutter Fixes
+Weapons and Armor Fixes Remade
+Closer Quivers and Longer Arrows
+ClamsDropPearls
+Brows
+Better Females by Bella Brows
+Brawl Bugs Patch - Plugins - Modder Resource
+Better Shadowmarks
+Better MessageBox Controls
+Better males - Beautiful nudes and faces - New hairstyles
+Better Freckles
+Better Dialogue Controls
+Beards
+Auto Unequip Ammo
+Appropriately Attired Jarls
+Animated Clutter
+SKYRIM PERFORMANCE PLUS Pine Needles FX
+PapyrusUtil - Modders Scripting Utility Functions
+Unofficial High Resolution Patch
+Unofficial Dragonborn Patch
+Serious HD Retexture Skyrim 1k
*Unmanaged: Dragonborn
+Cleaned Dragonborn ESM
+Unofficial Hearthfire Patch
*Unmanaged: HearthFires
+Cleaned Hearthfires ESM
+Unofficial Dawnguard Patch
*Unmanaged: Dawnguard
+Cleaned Dawnguard ESM
+Unofficial Skyrim Patch
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03
+Bethesda Performance Textures - Animals and Creatures
+Bethesda Performance Textures - Armor - Clothes - Weapons
+Stable uGridsToLoad
+skse 1 07 03

 

 

 

Load Order

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
phiNoFF.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
SkyUI.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp
UnlimitedEnchantments.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
Cloaks.esp
Dead Body Collision.esp
Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp
BlockSparkles.esp
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
Beards.esp
Brows.esp
ClamsDropPearls.esp
PreventsAccidentPickUp.esp
iHUD.esp
melt down weapons and armor.esp
HelmetToggle2.02b.esp
No_stretching.esp
Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp
WeightlessAlchemyIngredients.esp
WeightlessCraftedPotions.esp
WeightlessDragonBones.esp
WeightlessDragonClaws.esp
WeightlessDwemerSmeltables.esp
WeightlessFood.esp
WeightlessPotions.esp
WeightlessScrolls.esp
WeightlessOreIngotsPeltsGems.esp
FNISSexyMove.esp
Barbarian Hair.esp
Sexy Armor Replacer Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
NoHelmetAdeptHood.esp
NoHelmetApprenticeHood.esp
NoHelmetBlades.esp
NoHelmetDwarven.esp
NoHelmetDragonplate.esp
NoHelmetDaedric.esp
NoHelmetRahgot.esp
NoHelmetPenitus.esp
NoHelmetOtar.esp
NoHelmetOrcish.esp
NoHelmetNoviceHood.esp
NoHelmetNightingale.esp
NoHelmetNahkriin.esp
NoHelmetMorokei.esp
NoHelmetLeather.esp
NoHelmetKrosis.esp
NoHelmetIron.esp
NoHelmetHide.esp
NoHelmetGlass.esp
NoHelmetForsworn.esp
NoHelmetFalmer.esp
NoHelmetElvenLight.esp
NoHelmetDragonscale.esp
NoHelmetElven.esp
NoHelmetEbony.esp
NoHelmetScaled.esp
NoHelmetSteel.esp
NoHelmetSteelHorned.esp
NoHelmetWolf.esp
NoHelmetVolsung.esp
NoHelmetThieves.esp
NoHelmetSteelPlate.esp
NoHelmetYngol.esp
GrassOnSteroids_NaturalEdition_Vanilla.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 
Skyrim.ini

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uGridsToLoad=7

iPreloadSizeLimit=51380224

sIntroSequence=

fFlickeringLightDistance=8192

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bMultiThreadMovement=1

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iShadowMapResolution=2048

bAllowScreenshot=1

iPresentInterval=1

 

[Audio]

fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0

fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0

fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0

fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0

 

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bDrawShaderGrass=1

bGrassPointLighting=1

iMinGrassSize=75

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fGrassWindMagnitudeMin=5.0000

fGrassWindMagnitudeMax=125.0000

 

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bMultiThreadBoneUpdate=1

 

[HAVOK]

iNumThreads=5

 

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[Archive]

sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa

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Skyrimprefs.ini

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bGamePadRumble=0

bMouseAcceleration=0

bUseKinect=0

[Particles]

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[saveGame]

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This Area Gives me 40fps

 

 

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Particular Part of the Map

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I think you need to give up the idea of having a consistent 60 fps in exteriors with a modded Skyrim :p Having said that, the first things I'd try is decreasing fShadowDistance to 2500 in SkyrimPrefs.ini. If that solves it, raise it again until you are satisfied with both the shadow pop in and the fps. Other things: try ugrids=5. I also think that most of those bUseThreadedXXX options are placebo and don't recommend using Papyrus tweaks like iMinMemoryPageSize=100000, iMaxMemoryPageSize=5000000 and iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=4800000000 but that's another story. I feel most of those tweaks come from guides made in like 2012 and have never been actually tested, just copied.

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Bro even with my super High end specs I sometimes drop down into 35fps.  That's just how skyrim is going to be if you're going to heavily mod it. 

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Guys/gals, I've got this...

  1. Uninstall all mods
  2. Clean INIs so they are vanilla INIs
  3. Install only the Fixes and UI sections of STEP
  4. Game on in 60FPS everywhere!

 

But seriously, what the others have already said. Your expectations are too high.

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I think your INIs may be the leading cause of the issues, as they are horrendous. Please use https://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:Skyrim_Configuration_Settings to tweak your INIs. Any other INI tweaks that you have found from anywhere else are most likely harmful and/or placebo with extremely rare exception. Two biggies in there are very unoptimized shadows and grass settings. See reference threads on these two: https://forum.step-project.com/topic/8780-grass-optimization/ and https://forum.step-project.com/topic/3758-shadow-optimization/

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I think your INIs may be the leading cause of the issues, as they are horrendous. Please use https://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:Skyrim_Configuration_Settings to tweak your INIs. Any other INI tweaks that you have found from anywhere else are most likely harmful and/or placebo with extremely rare exception. Two biggies in there are very unoptimized shadows and grass settings. See reference threads on these two: https://forum.step-project.com/topic/8780-grass-optimization/ and https://forum.step-project.com/topic/3758-shadow-optimization/

Does this guide also work for enbs? I'm wondering if I can squeeze a lil performance out of my system but I highly doubt it.  Even with a super high end rig and only playing on 1080p a heavily modded skyrim will dip down to 30fps at times.

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Does this guide also work for enbs? I'm wondering if I can squeeze a lil performance out of my system but I highly doubt it.  Even with a super high end rig and only playing on 1080p a heavily modded skyrim will dip down to 30fps at times.

All should work with ENB if you follow the notes. Shadows thread has experimental ENB shadows recommended tweaks in OP at bottom.

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T_T

 

sorry for the hassle. I'll just lay down and accept it can't be as smooth as I expect hohohoho T_T

 

Thank you! :D

 

P.S

Are my mods considered "heavy Modding"?

Edited by manuelitosimoi

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Considering your GPU only has 2GB of VRAM, anytime you add in a high-res texture pack/mod you are going to tax it.

The modlist doesn't say if you are installing 1K, 2K or 4K variants of any of them so it is quite likely you are over-reaching in your ambitions for that card.

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AFAIK i have not installed any 2k 4k mods. unless the mods do not have descriptions and so happens to be 2k or 4k.

 

but everytime a mod has an option, I would choose 1k.

 

would vram really matter? because as some say even the most powerful pc can't handle. :(

Edited by manuelitosimoi

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I certainly noticed a major increase in overall 'smoothness' when I changed from a 660Ti (2gb) to a 780(3gb) even though the average FPS was only marginally better (i.e. with the 780 also running a bigger mod list). Of course, there's far more going on there than just the VRAM - different architecture / clock speed  / memory speed / memory bus size etc. Still, with REGS installed, even now it'll hit 30fps in the heavily modified areas. Hey ho.

 

VRAM is never the only factor: in the previous generation of Nvidia cards, a 780 3GB was categorically preferable to a 770 4gb in terms of raw performance.

 

TL;DR; Skyrim modding = FPS drops. System specs will only modify 'by how much', to a greater or lesser degree.

 

edit - And now that I think about it, some of the biggest FPS drops that I get are perhaps actually CPU (or "something else") bound. Quite often my GPU temp will ease off in busiest city areas, which suggests a bottleneck elsewhere. This may be more of a CPU (only running at stock speed) or game engine limitation.

Edited by Quinnbeast

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