klotim Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 Always liked the step mods and I couldn't resist to promote myself.Mod description:Using Bellyaches HD Dragon Replacer Pack as a base, Skyrim finally gotcompletely retextured dragons. 2K-4K and 4K-8K textures with AO, HQ uncompressed normalmap, optimized textures covering all vanilla and DLC dragons.Dragons is Skyrims Main subject and should therefore look best. Never before have Skyrim users seen such high quality dragons until...now.As it said, it covers all the dragons, (except for durnehviir at the moment i'm writing this). I also retextured some other mods, deadly dragons, bellyachee dragons, Dragon lords and such.The mod stays true to vanilla design and color except for some design spots here and there ( some scales on the head, more scales on the wings).Realistic dragons 4K-8K by Frozunswaidon
TechAngel85 Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 Would like to see this tested up again Bellyache's, which is what we're using now. It looks very good.
Guest Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 It's very nice but I feel the textures are ruined by too much noise. Everyone seems to think noise = detail. It may work okay for rocks, but I feel dragons should have smooth scales (at least under their belly). Gritty Dragons?
Aiyen Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 Got to admit that the only reason I am not using these is that they are just too detailed. It is not so much noise... as it is shear amount of tiny details that just distract the eyes when you look at them. In short.. there is no where for the eyes to simply rest and admire the texture. One thing I considered suggesting to you was to keep the normal map but tone down the diffuse to make sure that all the details are not that ... harsh I guess would be the term! But I guess I can see where you want to go with this and doing that would require quite a rework so that is why I have not done so before now! I guess the fact that you have gone to 8k is resolution is also part of the "issue"... you just have had access to way WAY too much detail for a model that is nowhere near a scale that would require it! But ofc. doing overkill is the best way! :D Keep up the good work, and I hope you can see this as a bit of hopefully constructive criticism!
Guest Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) Here is a thing... Can this engine support 8k? I know Unreal 3 went up to 4k (as well as UE4 without mip map edits) and this engine is much older than that. RAGE had 8k only for streaming the ground texures, but again, that is a much better engine. Has anyone truly tested this? Will the detail just stop increasing after a certain point? Edited September 30, 2014 by Guest
DoYouEvenModBro Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) I personally cannot see a single difference when going from 4k to 8k, however I play at 1080p so perhaps a higher res monitor would. Edited September 30, 2014 by DoYouEvenModBro
TechAngel85 Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 I agree with the noise. It's a very easy way to add a bit of grit but isn't always the best answer. I noticed Alduin had quite a bit of noise in the shots on the mod page. As for texture size, Aiyen is right. 8K is way too much. 2-4K is just right though as Bellyaches uses 2-4K. Too much detail can be a bad thing and we've turned down texture replacer in the past because of that very reason. If they're too detailed they stand out amongst the surrounding textures and look out of place. Of course, I haven't tried these in-game yet so take what I say on that notion.
Guest Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) Would anyone be interested if I made a quick plugin test room with something like cubes on display to show a 256 - 8k detail range? Maybe could do normals and parallax too as it would take 5 mins. It might be a good tutorial for beginners and I could jam a giant STEP link in there in 3D. I dunno' it's up to you guys. I like visual aids personally, but it depends if it will get used. Edit: Well from the upvotes I guessed I should give it a go. Will continue after my dinner as I left the 8k CG texture cooking and my PC is unusable until it's rendered. I'll start a new thread soon and if anyone wants to upload it to the Nexus or something they can. Edited September 30, 2014 by Guest
phazer11 Posted October 1, 2014 Posted October 1, 2014 I think we'd have to request frozen to make 1k and 2k variants before we even tested it since um... 4k... yeah not going to (forgive the pun) fly.
fadingsignal Posted October 1, 2014 Posted October 1, 2014 I think we'd have to request frozen to make 1k and 2k variants before we even tested it since um... 4k... yeah not going to (forgive the pun) fly.The default dragon texture in the Bethesda Hi-Res DLC is actually 4K. Makes sense because the dragons are such big objects. With that in mind, doubling the resolution to 8k isn't that much of a stretch (another pun!), if it's optimized well, etc. 1
phazer11 Posted October 1, 2014 Posted October 1, 2014 Interesting. I could have sworn it was only 2k. Then again it has been a while since I checked the resolutions of the HRDLC.
fadingsignal Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 Interesting. I could have sworn it was only 2k. Then again it has been a while since I checked the resolutions of the HRDLC.Technically 4096x2048 since it's a rectangular texture.
DoubleYou Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 I'm loving the detail. These are some of the best screens I got. Have a few more in here: https://copy.com/GsNBgsM41oOUph41
Octopuss Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) I have recently looked at this mod again, and after a while of looking at the textures, I can only state (I knew before, but wanted to make double sure) it's just another typical case of simply upscaling existing textures, slapping a Photoshop filter over them (it doesn't matter he created an impression of scales, the underlaying texture is a blurry mess), and calling it revolutionary amazing newe super HD 8k retexture. This practice is disgusting and must stop. Not impressed. That Skunky123/MysteryModder guy was doing the exact same thing. Amazingly, people fall for this every_single_time. Edited March 24, 2015 by Octopuss
Neovalen Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 An improvement, however small, is still an improvement provided there are no downsides. 4
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