Help finding cause of crash during save game load

[Kattmandu]

I'm an idiot when it comes to deciphering these crash log files.  Can someone more experienced than me help me out in trying to track down the cause of the crashing?

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[Mousetick]

It's crashing while loading Autosave2, either in HDT-SMP or SPID, not sure.

Try loading a normal save instead of an autosave.

Try reverting SPID to 6.1 (the last least buggy version) and loading an old save you made before updating to SPID 6.2+.

[DoubleYou]

As referenced on the SPID topic, this started happening on the 24th. I also released my FOLIP road LODs on the 24th. There is a reference to the RoadStraight02.nif file, which of course is the full model. While I don't think this is the cause of the crash, try testing without the FOLIP resources and see if the crash reappears. I think it is just a coincidence, but I'd prefer to be sure.

[Kattmandu]

  On 11/28/2022 at 2:35 PM, DoubleYou said:

As referenced on the SPID topic, this started happening on the 24th. I also released my FOLIP road LODs on the 24th. There is a reference to the RoadStraight02.nif file, which of course is the full model. While I don't think this is the cause of the crash, try testing without the FOLIP resources and see if the crash reappears. I think it is just a coincidence, but I'd prefer to be sure.

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It did start crashing right after I re-generated all of the LOD files, xLODGen/ACMOS, TexGen, DynDOLOD, Occlusion.  I re-generated all the LOD files because the water, under the southern bridge in Ivarstead, was missing.  After I re-generated all the LOD files, the water under the bridge was visible after loading a save which was created prior to LOD re-generation.  But newer saves (when loaded) would crash the game.

I disabled FOLIP, loaded an old save, created a new save, tried to load the new save, the game crashed.  I will re-generate the LOD files once again without FOLIP and see what happens.

Edited November 28, 2022 by Kattmandu

[Kattmandu]

So, after I re-generated the LOD files, I see errors and warnings in the DYNDOLOD summary.  Are any of these cause for concern?

@DoubleYou BTW, after LOD re-generation without FOLIP, loading save games still crash.  So, FOLIP has nothing to do with it.

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Edited November 28, 2022 by Kattmandu

[z929669]

  On 11/28/2022 at 6:20 PM, Kattmandu said:

So, after I re-generated the LOD files, I see errors and warnings in the DYNDOLOD summary.  Are any of these cause for concern?

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These are all normal and expected other than the Root Block errors, but that may be new to Alpha 106, which I have not completely tested yet with Step.

[DoubleYou]

  On 11/28/2022 at 6:30 PM, z929669 said:

These are all normal and expected other than the Root Block errors, but that may be new to Alpha 106, which I have not completely tested yet with Step.

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Those root block errors are fine.

  On 11/28/2022 at 6:20 PM, Kattmandu said:

So, after I re-generated the LOD files, I see errors and warnings in the DYNDOLOD summary.  Are any of these cause for concern?

@DoubleYou BTW, after LOD re-generation without FOLIP, loading save games still crash.  So, FOLIP has nothing to do with it.

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The warnings seem to be in line with my expectations for a Step setup and are fine. Glad to see that FOLIP isn't the cause. Really couldn't think of a way how it could be, but wanted to be sure. Perhaps you can post another crash log and maybe the same thing will show up twice? Might narrow it down, but it's really starting to look like that SPID update is the cause.

[Kattmandu]

  On 11/28/2022 at 6:31 PM, DoubleYou said:

Perhaps you can post another crash log and maybe the same thing will show up twice? Might narrow it down, but it's really starting to look like that SPID update is the cause.

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This is my latest crash log file without FOLIP.

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[DoubleYou]

Try removing FSMP - Faster HDT-SMP. The mod may not be updated to the latest runtime (last version mentioned is 1.6.640). If that isn't it, test with a new game at that location (you can console your way there via the coordinates in DynDOLOD via cow worldspace x y).

 

[Kattmandu]

  On 11/28/2022 at 6:46 PM, DoubleYou said:

Try removing FSMP - Faster HDT-SMP. The mod may not be updated to the latest runtime (last version mentioned is 1.6.640). 

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Here is the crash log after disabling SMP mods.

 

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[DoubleYou]

Are you on game version 1.6.640?

[Kattmandu]

  On 11/28/2022 at 7:22 PM, DoubleYou said:

Are you on game version 1.6.640?

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Yes.

The only other things I have done prior to the crashing (that I can think of) are updating the mods below to the latest version and removing the Vokrii AOS patch.

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[DoubleYou]

OK. I believe that it must be caused by the broken SPID then, as that's the only common denominator that I can see, especially since you said somewhere that it doesn't crash on a new game. SPID is mentioned in the log, but nothing intelligible about it.

[Kattmandu]

  On 11/28/2022 at 7:55 PM, DoubleYou said:

OK. I believe that it must be caused by the broken SPID then, as that's the only common denominator that I can see, especially since you said somewhere that it doesn't crash on a new game. SPID is mentioned in the log, but nothing intelligible about it.

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Yeah, it seems if I load an old save (from when I had SPID 6.2.0) and then create a new save and reload the new save, it crashes every time.  Doesn't crash when I use a save from when I had SPID 6.1.0.  Strange that I can't get it to work again with SPID 6.2.0 (downloaded from GitHub).  Maybe the GitHub version is a bit different than the version that was uploaded to NexusMods?

[z929669]

I wouldn't be surprised if it were SPID. Looks like v6.03 was the last 'good' version. v6.2 has a confirmed bug with long INIs and 6.1 has issues with at least one mod.

[Kattmandu]

  On 11/28/2022 at 8:47 PM, z929669 said:

I wouldn't be surprised if it were SPID. Looks like v6.03 was the last 'good' version. v6.2 has a confirmed bug with long INIs and 6.1 has issues with at least one mod.

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Maybe I should downgrade to v6.0.3 then?

Or maybe even 6.0.2?  Maybe point to 6.0.2 in the Step guide for now until SPID gets fixed.

Edited November 28, 2022 by Kattmandu