wip-fallout-4-using-modorganizer-2

[Gilgamesh2k5]

hey bro for workshop rearranged, when you say extract the ba2's and hide them, can you clarify? should I install the mod and it's patches using MO, or delete the ba2's from the mod before installing it

[Gilgamesh2k5]

well, I extracted the two Ba2 files using the archive tool in creation kit, then I changed the properties of the BA2 files to hidden and left them in the same folder as the unpacked content, rezipped the main folder and installed using MO. Hopefully that was correct and you didnt mean to hide the three folders that were unpacked. Meshes, etc.

 

 

 

EDIT: Actually after thinking about it, I changed the properties for the unpacked materials, meshes and textures to hidden as that made more sense when you say "or the meshes may be overwritten". I didnt know that hiding meshes kept them from being overwritten

 

 

EDIT: lol goddammit a quick google search found what you meant. Unpack BA2's in folder, install with MO2, go into filetree in mod pane for that mod, right click meshes folder, tick hidden. That way MOD A meshes wont be overwritten by MOD B's Meshes..hence the .mohidden

Edited October 3, 2016 by Gilgamesh2k5

[LordKee]

So, think I got all installed per the latest version of the guide. But I'm struggling with my load order. Seems loot doesn't really do much and comparing to the supplied loot order list, I had to do a lot of manual switching about. Any chance for an upto date list btw? :) Anyhow, I still  get out of order subrecords with FO4Edit...and warnings about unused data. What would be the best way to tackle this kind of issues?

[GSDFan]

So, think I got all installed per the latest version of the guide. But I'm struggling with my load order. Seems loot doesn't really do much and comparing to the supplied loot order list, I had to do a lot of manual switching about. Any chance for an upto date list btw? :) Anyhow, I still  get out of order subrecords with FO4Edit...and warnings about unused data. What would be the best way to tackle this kind of issues?

I have noticed that the LOOT sorting will get what I call stale after you do numerous LOOT sessions. I have found that if you close MO and use Windows file explorer to rename loadorder.txt in the active profile and restart MO and run LOOT it will do a better job of sorting your ESPs and ESMs for a while. I have compared the differances between the before and after files and in some cases a lot will get moved.

 

Try this when you see things not sorting when you think they should.

 

Edit: I attached a Pdf showing this. In this the lloadorder.txt is what what I was using and the loadorder.txt is after MO restart and LOOT sort.

2016-10-03 1440 loadorder.txt - lloadorder.pdf

 

[rhodsey]

Loot also doesn't simply to seem very updated compard to Skyrim.  Probably people just not bothering to report rules into it.

 

Also just so everyone knows Fo4 just patched again so SKSE has stopped working until they update it (i tried the one from Friday before the rollback. No joy)

[LordKee]

Is everything right regarding the instructions of Cut Weapon Mods restored? None of compatibility patches are selected? Noticed I was missing CWMR-Patch-Extended weapon mods.esp (listed in the load order list)

How about AWKCR and ValdacilsItemSorting?

[rhodsey]

Is everything right regarding the instructions of Cut Weapon Mods restored? None of compatibility patches are selected? Noticed I was missing CWMR-Patch-Extended weapon mods.esp (listed in the load order list)

How about AWKCR and ValdacilsItemSorting?

I believe Gernash's own patches cover it all so you don't need to worry.

[LordKee]

Anyone care to upload a working load order I could parse through? I don't mind if it has extra stuff included, as long as it loads ok :)

[LordKee]

Anyone care to upload a working load order I could parse through? I don't mind if it has extra stuff included, as long as it loads ok :)

Sorry for replying to my own post, didn't find any edit button. Seems the metric ton of errors I see in FO4Edit are all from Tales from the Commonwealth and quick google revealed those are false positives...

I'll just play and see how it goes...finally \o/

[Gernash]

Yawn..mmm coffee

load order - Ignore the things you dont have (testing and stuff)

I Assume You have the creation kit installed for the archieving tool.

 

LOOT should be working but there must not be enough references made out there for these mods

Order should look something like this (the patches will tell you if you have it wrong if you run FO4EDIT!!!!!)

General "Rule" :- for a load order with the least amount of conflicts (from what I've seen so far)

• Settlement Mods.............
• Enemy Overhauls...................(these usually have worldspace edits that affect lighting)
• Crafting Mods..............
• Weapon Mods...............................(require to have combined patches for weapon tables and VIS)
• Weather and Lighting.............(require Priority load order and patch as they all affect light (look at underwater lighting to get an idea)
• VIS...........................................(Excellent MOD need soo much patching if you have chosen anything outside of the box)
• Weapons Rack.........................(Because I like it)
• Loose Mods..................Un-catagorized mods that don't affect other mods in any meaningful way
• Better Mod Descriptions.........
• Workshop Rearranged.................. Menu control
• ModWiki Patches.................. MODWiki Patches

 

[spoiler=Load order]# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Fallout4.esm
DLCRobot.esm
DLCworkshop01.esm
DLCCoast.esm
DLCworkshop02.esm
DLCworkshop03.esm
DLCNukaWorld.esm
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
ArmorKeywords.esm
Arbitration - Resources.esm
ZW's F4 Overhaul Master.esm
ConcealedArmor.esm
Homemaker.esm
Snap'n Build.esm
Settlement Resources Rebalanced.esp
Homemaker - Greenhouse and Bunker Disabler.esp
Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp
OCDecorator.esp
OCD FarHarborDLC.esp
OCDispenser.esp
OCDecorator - No Experience.esp
SettleObjExpandPack.esp
CleanSettlement Greenhouse.esp
AES_Renovated Furniture.esp
AkaWaterWorld.esp
Evan_Modular Kitchen.esp
CWSS Redux.esp
SMH.esp
DogBed.esp
OctaviusSentibar_Labels.esp
No Halloween Decorations.esp
D.E.C.A.Y.esp
RaiderOverhaul.esp
Glowing Animals Emit Light.esp
SuperMutantOverhaul.esp
ImmersiveVendors.esp
SettlersRename.esp
Armorsmith Extended.esp
Armorsith All DLCs Patch.esp
Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp
Crafting Workbench.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Expanded.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Special.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Power Armor.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Removed Crafting Experience.esp
Craftable Armor Size.esp
Craftable Armor Size - Fix Material Requirements.esp
ConcealedArmor.esp
Extended weapon mods.esp
3dscopes.esp
3dscopes-FarHarbor.esp
3dscopes-framework.esp
3dscopes-NukaWorld.esp
CutWeaponModsRestored.esp
CutWeaponModsRestored-FarHarbor.esp
CWMR-Patch-Extended weapon mods.esp
LegendaryModification.esp
LegendaryModification2LM.esp
LegendaryModificationCSA.esp
LegendaryModificationGroknak.esp
LegendaryModificationMisc.esp
LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor.esp
LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor (2LM).esp
LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor (2LM Concealed).esp
Weapons of Fate.esp
Weapons of Fate - Realistic Bullet Speed.esp
Realistic Guns and Bullets Overhaul.esp
Consistent Power Armor Overhaul.esp
No Combat Boundaries.esp
Better Explosives - Normal.esp
Better Explosives - Enhanced Grenades.esp
Better Explosives - Far Harbor.esp
Better Explosives - Grenade Frequency 30.esp
Better Explosives - Perks redone - No Trajectory.esp
VaultTecAcceleratedFocusSystem.esp
VaultTecAcceleratedFocusSystem - FarHarbor.esp
VaultTecAcceleratedFocusSystem - NukaWorld.esp
Search and Destroy.esp
Anchorage Power Armor.esp
ZW's F4 Overhaul - Power Armor.esp
ZWPAO - Nuka World Patch.esp
ZWPAO - MegaPatch.esp
Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp
Vivid Weathers - FO4.esp
Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Far Harbor.esp
Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Summer.esp
Vivid Weathers - Nuka World.esp
DarkerNights.esp
BetterNightVision.esp
DarkerNightsDetection.esp
Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
DynamicInteriorFogRemoval.esp
ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-NoDLCVersion.esp
VIS - Holotape Settings Patch.esp
DIFR - VIS Patch.esp
FunctionalDisplays.esp
FunctionalDisplays-AID-VIS.esp
FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp
FunctionalDisplays-MISC-VIS.esp
FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC01-VIS.esp
FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC03-VIS.esp
EasyHacking.esp
CarryWeight1000.esp
CarryWeight200Strength.esp
No Fusion Core Drain.esp
QuickEnterFromStand.esp
QuickExitToStand.esp
ShellRain.esp
Live Dismemberment - BrutalNoHeadshots.esp
Live Dismemberment - LiebermodeNoHeadshots.esp
Live Dismemberment - RegularNoHeadshots.esp
QuickTrade.esp
FAR.esp
LooksMenu.esp
LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
CBBE.esp
Realistic Death Physics - ALL DLC.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
TrueReporter.esp
3DNPC_FO4.esp
EveryonesBestFriend.esp
dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp
Move (Get Out the Way).esp
FO4Hotkeys.esp
TakeCover.esp
AtomicRadio.esp
Companion Fall Damage Immunity.esp
Arbitration - Button Lowered Weapons.esp
BetterSettlers.esp
BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp
BetterSettlersFarHarborPatch.esp
BetterSettlersMortalPack.esp
BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp
DX Adventurer Outfit.esp
DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp
DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp
Eli_Apocalypse Attire.esp
Eli_Accessories.esp
Eli_RuggedOutfits.esp
Eli_ArmourCollection.esp
Hoodless Scribe Hat.esp
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
Armorsmith Deserter X.esp
Armorsmith Elianora.esp
PoliceGlassesStandalone.esp
BetterSettlersCCAPack1.1b.esp
Binoculars.esp
VisibleWeapons.esp
Scavver's Toolbox.esp
BTInteriors_Project.esp
Vivid Waters - VW.esp
ValdacilsItemSorting - Raider Overhaul TAGS.esp
ValdacilsItemSorting - Raider Overhaul - AE Patch - Compatibility.esp
Crossbow.esp
BetterModDescriptions.esp
3dscopes-AddToSpawnList - CWMR Compatible.esp
WorkshopRearranged.esp
WorkshopRearranged - MODWiki.esp
WorkshopRearranged_RenovatedFurniture_Patch.esp
CS Greenhouse - WS Patch.esp
WR - ImmersiveVenders Patch.esp
WorkshopRearranged_AtomicRadio_Patch.esp
RaiderOverhaul - AK_VIS_BM-Patch.esp
Weapon Mods Patch.esp
Armor Mods Patch.esp
Power Armor Patch.esp
Scope Patch.esp
SuperMutantOverhaul - Patch.esp
Test.esp
COTC Patch.esp
BetterSettlers Clothes Pack Patch.esp
VAFS Patch.esp

 

 

CWMR-Patch-Extended weapon mods.esp is not needed the patch from the author does not link to the correct esp and the "patch"(it just adds CWMR mods to the loot list) is in the Modwiki patches. I have it for reference only

same goes for (they are overwritten and I have a custom keyword and innr patch to include all the other mods in the list.)

ValdacilsItemSorting - Raider Overhaul TAGS.esp
ValdacilsItemSorting - Raider Overhaul - AE Patch

 

The FOMOD instructions are up to date with which patches need to be installed. Weapons are Unique as most of them don't play well together. I still have to add another section for better (more realistic bullet specs(caliber, speed, drop and casing crafting) so At the moment it's a blend of WOF (speed, drop and effects) and RGBO (damage and item stats)

 

I have not posted any of my thaughts on these topics as feedback so far has been ok to nonexistant to damage, armor and health.

Edited October 4, 2016 by Gernash

[Gernash]

What should look like in the Workshop Rearranged MOD Folder After extracting but before hiding

 

 

What should look like in the Workshop Rearranged MOD Folder After hiding

 

 

How to hide a file and keep it

 

Edited October 4, 2016 by Gernash

[Verenios]

So Gernash you checked into Auto Doors yet? Just Curious on what you think.

 

Was annoyed when settlers leave your front gates wide opened or leave doors wide open haha.

[Gernash]

ok on the list, I've eyed it off but have not looked at it yet. Just looking at weaponsmith atm for Gilgamesh2k5

[Verenios]

Yeah i remember talking about Weaponsmith Extended to you the other day since you have Armorsmith Extended, Looks okay and adds loads of Weapon Mods merged into one mass file which is like 2.1Gbs.

[Gilgamesh2k5]

lol it takes a while to do the bundling but it contains quite a few very well done weapons by many many talented authors

just had to make sure to follow the guys video to the T when it comes to the bundling process..it like an hour long video but he goes from start to finish 

If I could save him the trouble I could just share the massive ass file somehow.