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I've been going through some of the older downloads I have on my HDD to see if any might be suitable to add and as I was investigating a couple of mods, No Quest Items & No Quest Items DLC, I thought they might be in the Unofficial Patch and decided to check.

While doing so I noticed that from version 1.7, Creature Companion Fix has been included.

In fact using CCF will cause certain fixes applied to SuperMutant weapons to be removed.

 

I'm thinking this perhaps needs to be dropped.

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The Unofficial Patch only incorporated part of the Creature Companion Fix, and the part it didn't include is an important part. The author, Yukichigai, suggests that the patch still needs to be used. See the bottom of the mods's Nexus description page.

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That may be what he suggests but examining them together in xEdit seems to indicate that everything CCF fixes is included in the UP. The scripts for each of the companions are identical and the other changes to their stats are also the same. Perhaps the UP added more into itself at a later date and Yuki hasn't updated the description page?

 

My only concern is loading CCF removes the edits the UP makes to weapons used by super mutants. If that is something that can be tolerated then fine, I can live with that. I have been away from FO3 for too long to make a judgement call on that.

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That may be what he suggests but examining them together in xEdit seems to indicate that everything CCF fixes is included in the UP. The scripts for each of the companions are identical and the other changes to their stats are also the same. Perhaps the UP added more into itself at a later date and Yuki hasn't updated the description page?

That might be true, the UUFO3P was updated more recently than CCF. I don't see any difference in the scripts, etc. We might not need CCF any more.

 

My only concern is loading CCF removes the edits the UP makes to weapons used by super mutants. If that is something that can be tolerated then fine, I can live with that. I have been away from FO3 for too long to make a judgement call on that.

It does, but it doesn't actually matter since the bashed patch merges all the LNAM records so all the additions that UUFO3P makes are in the leveled lists in the bashed patch

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It does, but it doesn't actually matter since the bashed patch merges all the LNAM records so all the additions that UUFO3P makes are in the leveled lists in the bashed patch

Good point.

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