Montey30 Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 As the title mentions, ive followed the Skryim SE v2.2.0 Guide up to section 20 (patches) without any issues. Everything works perfectly, when i wanted to proceed and test-launch the game, if i have either of the Step Patch - Lighting and Weather or Step Patch - Conflict Resolution mods enabled i load into the bethesda screen, and instantly crash out. Ive followed the guide to a T and im not sure on what might be causing said crashes. Is there any way to troubleshoot this? Any logs i should post? Anything else i should mention? Please let me know, thanks!
z929669 Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 See if you have the exclamation in MO. If not, then this is probably caused by an SKSE mod dependency. Just disable all mods after Extenders and rerun the smoke test to verify. Then enable everything up to Interface and test again. Use the binary method to see what mod you didn't install correctly, enabling mods in blocks to test. Sort with LOOT each time you enable more mods.
Montey30 Posted September 4, 2023 Author Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) I indeed have that exclamation mark showing a number 2, mainly regarding overwrite files. I was able to successfully finish following the guide but enabling those 2 mods just crashes the game. Not sure if it might be worth the headache to troubleshoot, or simply go ahead and play as is with both enabled. (Game seems to play perfectly just fine). Also, what is the binary method? Is there some sort of guide out there regarding it? Sounds like a great way to troubleshoot whatever might be going on. Edited September 4, 2023 by Montey30
z929669 Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 On 9/4/2023 at 3:55 PM, Montey30 said: I indeed have that exclamation mark showing a number 2, mainly regarding overwrite files. I was able to successfully finish following the guide but enabling those 2 mods just crashes the game. Not sure if it might be worth the headache to troubleshoot, or simply go ahead and play as is with both enabled. (Game seems to play perfectly just fine). Also, what is the binary method? Is there some sort of guide out there regarding it? Sounds like a great way to troubleshoot whatever might be going on. Expand Click the warning icon, and then "Missing Masters" ... you most likely either installed a plugin that should have been hidden or the wrong version of a mod missing a plugin that's expected.
Greg Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 On 9/4/2023 at 3:55 PM, Montey30 said: I indeed have that exclamation mark showing a number 2, mainly regarding overwrite files. I was able to successfully finish following the guide but enabling those 2 mods just crashes the game. Not sure if it might be worth the headache to troubleshoot, or simply go ahead and play as is with both enabled. (Game seems to play perfectly just fine). Also, what is the binary method? Is there some sort of guide out there regarding it? Sounds like a great way to troubleshoot whatever might be going on. Expand z929669 is referring to these triangular caution-sigh icons in the plugins tab that have an exclamation mark in the middle (see the screenshot below. If you hover your mouse over the icon, Mod Organizer shows a tooltip with "Missing Masters:" followed by a list of one or more master plugins that is required by the plugin but does not exist or is not activated (checked) in your load order. i just faked this one by unchecking Step Patch - Conflict Resolution.esp to hopefully make it obvious.
Montey30 Posted September 4, 2023 Author Posted September 4, 2023 On 9/4/2023 at 4:08 PM, z929669 said: Click the warning icon, and then "Missing Masters" ... you most likely either installed a plugin that should have been hidden or the wrong version of a mod missing a plugin that's expected. Expand This is what shows up. I assume that is what you wanted me to look at, what should i do? (Sorry if im being dense, pretty new to all this modding stuff) On 9/4/2023 at 5:05 PM, Greg said: z929669 is referring to these triangular caution-sigh icons in the plugins tab that have an exclamation mark in the middle (see the screenshot below. If you hover your mouse over the icon, Mod Organizer shows a tooltip with "Missing Masters:" followed by a list of one or more master plugins that is required by the plugin but does not exist or is not activated (checked) in your load order. i just faked this one by unchecking Step Patch - Conflict Resolution.esp to hopefully make it obvious. Expand Ah i see now, yeah the step patches i mentioned do indeed show those red triangles.
z929669 Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 On 9/4/2023 at 7:19 PM, Montey30 said: This is what shows up. I assume that is what you wanted me to look at, what should i do? (Sorry if im being dense, pretty new to all this modding stuff) Ah i see now, yeah the step patches i mentioned do indeed show those red triangles. Expand Install those missing mods, including the CR patch and AYOP - Companions. Sort with LOOT and that's it. I'm not sure how you missed these ... or perhaps they are not enabled or their plugins not enabled.
Montey30 Posted September 4, 2023 Author Posted September 4, 2023 On 9/4/2023 at 9:10 PM, z929669 said: Install those missing mods, including the CR patch and AYOP - Companions. Sort with LOOT and that's it. I'm not sure how you missed these ... or perhaps they are not enabled or their plugins not enabled. Expand Alright, ill go ahead and do so and report back, pardon my stubborness as i mentioned, im new in all this. Appreciate the help and patience. On 9/4/2023 at 9:10 PM, z929669 said: Install those missing mods, including the CR patch and AYOP - Companions. Sort with LOOT and that's it. I'm not sure how you missed these ... or perhaps they are not enabled or their plugins not enabled. Expand I went ahead and enabled both of them, they all lead to a instant crash just right after the bethesda loading screen.
z929669 Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 On 9/4/2023 at 9:24 PM, Montey30 said: Alright, ill go ahead and do so and report back, pardon my stubborness as i mentioned, im new in all this. Appreciate the help and patience. I went ahead and enabled both of them, they all lead to a instant crash just right after the bethesda loading screen. Expand Be certain the MAIN exclamation error in MO disappears (the on ein the upper right corner of MO). If it doesn't there's still a problem you need to resolve by ensuring all plugins (right pane) and mods (left pane) are enabled. If the MO message disappears and you still CTD at launch, it's most likely a SKSE dependency problem. In that case, you have not installed SKSE or one of the mods that depends on that correctly. This is where the binary testing comes in by disabling all mods after Extenders and rerunning the smoke test earlier in the guide at the end of 02-Extenders.
Greg Posted September 5, 2023 Posted September 5, 2023 On 9/4/2023 at 7:19 PM, Montey30 said: Ah i see now, yeah the step patches i mentioned do indeed show those red triangles. Expand You're looking at the exclamation mark icon in the left pane. This just indicates the version of the mod is allegedly newer than the version of the mod on Nexus and can be ignored. The exclamation mark icon you want is in the the right pane. See this marked up version of your screenshot.
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