sheson Posted June 7, 2021 Author Posted June 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rapunzel said: I need to put only tree lod textures in the atlas (build as object lod). What would be a reason to not have the rest of the object LOD have its textures on the atlas texture and instead use the LOD textures directly thus increasing draw calls?
Rapunzel Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) hmmm if build tree lods as object lods then they all have same direction (not random as if cteare usually tree lods) https://imageban.ru/show/2021/06/07/a08f1ac830ad5f559f80b5c3bfc2bb21/jpg another one for test: https://imageban.ru/show/2021/06/07/4b88737b38eca6fc4479e6b497c13d4d/jpg Edited June 7, 2021 by Rapunzel
sheson Posted June 7, 2021 Author Posted June 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Rapunzel said: hmmm if build tree lods as object lods then they all have same direction (not random as if cteare usually tree lods) https://imageban.ru/show/2021/06/07/a08f1ac830ad5f559f80b5c3bfc2bb21/jpg another one for test: https://imageban.ru/show/2021/06/07/4b88737b38eca6fc4479e6b497c13d4d/jpg Object LOD uses the x, y, z position and x, y, z rotation from the reference record, obviously.
Rapunzel Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) can you make it randomly? because in the distance it looks the same https://imageban.ru/show/2021/06/07/be9d409a3dbfe97a31f2d41a8f082e16/jpg vanilla (traditional generation) behavior - randomly. Edited June 7, 2021 by Rapunzel
sheson Posted June 7, 2021 Author Posted June 7, 2021 18 minutes ago, Rapunzel said: can you make it randomly? because in the distance it looks the same https://imageban.ru/show/2021/06/07/be9d409a3dbfe97a31f2d41a8f082e16/jpg vanilla (traditional generation) behavior - randomly. Object LOD needs to match the position and rotation of full models. If you do not want different objects to all face the same direction change the position/rotation of their references.
Rapunzel Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) Quote Object LOD needs to match the position and rotation of full models. what is the reason for this? the center of the model is the same anyway. Can you make this optional? Edited June 7, 2021 by Rapunzel
sheson Posted June 7, 2021 Author Posted June 7, 2021 16 minutes ago, Rapunzel said: what is the reason for this? Everybody wants object LOD to closely match the full model, its position and orientation for best match and transition.
Rapunzel Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) Quote Can you make this optional? ok, another question: lods generated only for 4 and 8 cells size. it's pretty close. Is it possible to somehow increase the distance for lods? Maybe you can cross objects trees lods and standard trees lods? Edited June 7, 2021 by Rapunzel
sheson Posted June 7, 2021 Author Posted June 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, Rapunzel said: ok, another question: lods generated only for 4 and 8 cells size. it's pretty close. Is it possible to somehow increase the distance for lods? Maybe you can cross objects trees lods and standard trees lods? Typically object LOD has 3 LOD Levels 4, 8, and 16. LOD distances are controlled by INI settings and do not affect object LOD generation, obviously. If you do not want billboard tree LOD in object LOD level 4 that can be achieved with DynDOLOD and its mesh rules, setting empty/None for the first LOD level when generating ultra tree LOD. Not sure though, why anyone would want LOD to look and work worse instead of better.
Rapunzel Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) Quote Can you make this optional? about random rotation. Quote If you do not want billboard tree LOD in object LOD level 4 i say: "lods generated only for 4 and 8 cells size. it's pretty close." bearing in mind that this is not enough. We talking only about TREES lods and tress object lods. Edited June 7, 2021 by Rapunzel
sheson Posted June 7, 2021 Author Posted June 7, 2021 19 minutes ago, Rapunzel said: i say: "lods generated only for 4 and 8 cells size. it's pretty close." bearing in mind that this is not enough. We talking only about TREES lods and tress object lods. There is tree LOD. It uses a *.lst, *.btt and a texture atlas with a fixed name per world space. There is object LOD. It uses *.bto (which are NIF) and the textures as defined in the *.bto. When trees are done in object LOD, they are done as 3D shapes in the *.bto (NIF) just like all the other object LOD. There is no distinction anymore what the shapes depict. It is all just vertices and triangles, could be part of a rock, a building or a tree.
Rapunzel Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, sheson said: Everybody wants object LOD to closely match the full model, its position and orientation for best match and transition. but i want randomly for flat trees object lods. Can you make it optional randomly? Edited June 7, 2021 by Rapunzel
sheson Posted June 7, 2021 Author Posted June 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Rapunzel said: but i want randomly. Can you make it optional randomly? I can do a many things, but adding nonsensical features that nobody needs is not really on my list of things to do.
z929669 Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, Rapunzel said: but i want randomly. Can you make it optional randomly? If this were done, then as a tree comes into full from LOD, it would change its rotation, which would be undesirable (rotation of LOD != rotation of full). I believe he is saying that if you want rotation to vary, you need to edit the references likewise in the plugin. For some reason, the plugin creator must have copied the same rotation for all like-tree references.
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