Crash upon walking away from Vault 101?

[aipaca]

Hi Experts!

 

Would love a hand with sorting this out. I followed the guide to install all of the core and several of the optional mods and am having a persistant problem with CTD as soon as I walk more than ~50m from Vault 101? I'm guessing it's when I walk into a new cell, but I'm not very experienced with this sort of thing and would love any help that you lovely people can provide!

 

Here is my load order if that is helpful:

 

 

 

0  0 Fallout3.esm

  1  1 Anchorage.esm

  2  2 ThePitt.esm

  3  3 StreetLights.esm

  4  4 BrokenSteel.esm

  5  5 PointLookout.esm

  6  6 Zeta.esm

  7  7 Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm

  8  8 CALIBR.esm

  9  9 Advanced Recon Tech.esm

 10  a Inventory Access.esm

 11  b aHUD.esm

 12  c iHUD.esm

 13  d Point Lookout Reborn.esm

 14  e Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm

 15  f Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

 16 10 ArefuExpandedByAzar.esm

 17 11 Vault 101 Revisited.esm

 18 12 RiversideCafe.esm

 19 13 WastelandGuards01.esm

 20 14 CRAFT.esm

 21 15 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

 22 16 Detect Traps.esm

 23 17 DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

 24 18 Project Beauty.esm

 25 19 20th Century Weapons.esm

 26 1a EVE.esm

 27 1b GeorgetownExpansion.esm

 28 1c RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm

 29 1d Xepha's Dynamic Weather.esm

 30 1e xCALIBR.esm

 31 1f Crowded Cities Redux.esm

 32 20 UF3P - Exotic Caravans.esm

 33 21 tubrrCompound.esm

 34 22 UF3P - Exotic Caravans (Essential).esm

 35 23 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

 36 24 DarNifiedUIF3.esp

 37 25 FortIndependenceRedesigned.esp

 38 26 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

 39 27 The  Pitt Moods.esp

       The Mantis Imperative - Nasty Zeta No Scaling.esp

 40 28 WeaponModKits.esp

 41 29 Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Sandstorms + Armor Damage (FOSE).esp

 42 2a RH_WMK_Bridge.esp

 43 2b WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp

       Advanced Recon Tech - Detect Traps.esp

       Detect Traps - DLC.esp

       Detect Traps - Perk.esp

 44 2c Advanced Recon Tech FWE.esp

 45 2d Millenia_AKS74U.esp

 46 2e Advanced Recon Tech.esp

 47 2f Advanced Recon Range Finder.esp

 48 30 Flashlight-LOS.esp

 49 31 20th Century Weapons -Plus- Reborn FWE-WMK-Calibr14_V1_70RC_18668.esp

 50 32 MetroCars.esp

 51 33 DC Moods.esp

 52 34 ArlingtonRestoration.esp

 53 35 DynamicCrosshair.esp

 54 36 Stimpak Counter.esp

 55 37 PPA - The Pitt.esp

 56 38 JIP Realistic Weapon Overheating.esp

       20th Century Weapons Non-Changing Weapon Conditions.esp

 57 39 JIP Selective-Fire.esp

 58 3a CASM.esp

       20th Century Weapons -Plus- Reborn xCALIBRized + RHIron.esp

 59 3b Blackened FWE + MMM + EVE + Project Beauty.esp

 60 3c Nat_Guard_Refurb.esp

 61 3d tubRRCompound.esp

 62 3e DCStreet - BS.esp

 63 3f FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

 64 40 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

 65 41 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

 66 42 WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

 67 43 WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

 68 44 WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

 69 45 WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

 70 46 WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

       xCALIBR_20CW_v5.12.esp

 71 47 YearlingBooks.esp

 72 48 Confessor Cromwell has a Break_EV.esp

 73 49 Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp

 74 4a 20th Century Weapons -Plus- Reborn Cut Weapons.esp

 75 4b Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Dynamic Sneak Bonus.esp

 76 4c Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Rain.esp

 77 4d Fo3HirezdFlamer.esp

 78 4e IMPACT.esp

 79 4f Fo3HirezdMinigun.esp

 80 50 Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Weather Machine (Vendor Added).esp

 81 51 RH_FWE_Bridge.esp

 82 52 PlasmaRifleAwesomefiedWMK.esp

       (TWPC) DIFF3-RI-EVE-MMM-WMK-PRA-F3HMG-F3HF-20CWRE-IMPACT-UUF3P-FWE Patch.esp

       DIFF WMK.esp

 83 53 UUF3P - FWE Patch.esp

 84 54 Realistic Interior Lighting.esp

 85 55 Rivet City Realignment.esp

 86 56 Temple of the Union Overhaul.esp

 87 57 The Mantis Imperative - Jello.esp

 88 58 HeirApparent.esp

 89 59 Another Interior Mod.esp

 90 5a PointLookout Moods.esp

 91 5b DCInt_ARoomWithAView.esp

 92 5c Laurens_Bathroom_poetry_V1.esp

 93 5d Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Main + DLC Merged.esp

 94 5e lexx_brahmin-variant-Fo3.esp

 95 5f overhead.esp

 96 60 (TWPC) RIL-UUF3P-DM Patch.esp

       DIFF.esp

 97 61 JIP Companions Command & Control.esp

 98 62 Blackened RH + FWE + EVE.esp

       FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

 99 63 PLweightadjust.esp

100 64 NotSoFast.esp

101 65 ChopShopModv13.esp

102 66 The Mantis Imperative - Mantis.esp

103 67 (TWPC) DM-UUF3P-DW Patch.esp

104 68 MoreMapMarkers.esp

105 69 BaileysCrossingMetro.esp

106 6a BBBackpacks-v1-1.esp

107 6b BauPetSupplies.esp

108 6c Museum.esp

109 6d K9BreedsMoreDogs.esp

110 6e PotomacSteamworks.esp

111 6f Dree Perks.esp

112 70 CanterburyCommonsInteriors.esp

       Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Green Tint Remover.esp

113 71 Monticello Park.esp

114 72 AutoGates.esp

115 73 FWEAlienWorkBenchFix.esp

116 74 Better RC Church.esp

       DCRWAV-FWE Patch.esp

117 75 MegatonClinicRefurb.esp

118 76 UrgeWashingtonBoS.esp

       Flora Overhaul.esp

119 77 K9Breeds.esp

       K9BreedsPatchDLCPitt.esp

120 78 FeralGhoulTest.esp

121 79 RagdollOverhaulFo3.esp

122 7a T3_leather armors.esp

123 7b Headwraps Galore.esp

124 7c Merc Adventurer Armor - eng.esp

125 7d Real Radiation Suit FO3.esp

126 7e Tribal_DX.esp

       Bornagain Zeta Combat Armor Texture Patch.esp

       PPA - FWE Tougher NPC Power Armour.esp

127 7f BornAgain Outcast v3.esp

       (TWPC) 20CWRECW-WMK-RIFWC-UUF3P-FWE Patch.esp

128 80 Dragonskin Tactical Outfit.esp

129 81 Advanced Recon Gear.esp

130 82 Detect Traps - The Traponator 4000.esp

131 83 Powered Power Armor.esp

132 84 PPA - Broken Steel.esp

133 85 PPA - FWE.esp

134 86 PPA - Mothership Zeta.esp

135 87 PPA - Operation Anchorage.esp

136 88 DragonskinBonusPack.esp

137 89 EVE Grenade Explosion.esp

       EVE Grenade - FWE Patch.esp

       Chems and Meds Re-Textures Pack.esp

138 8a schematics2.esp

139 8b GNR Enhanced.esp

140 8c GaryIterrogationHolo.esp

141 8d WeaponModKits - FWE Talon Loot Crash Fix.esp

142 8e Armor Repair Kits PL - FO3.esp

143 8f DelayAnchorage.esp

       delaypl.esp

144 90 DelaySteel.esp

       Zeta Turret Drone Karma Fix - MMM Merged.esp

145 91 CALIBRv14 Ammunition Schematics for FWE-WMK-CRAFT-V1_3-18639.esp

146 92 HKG3.esp

       PPA - FWE 2.esp

       Dragonskin_for_FWE_2014.esp

       (TWPC) BBB-UUF3P-FWE Patch.esp

147 93 (TWPC) PLR-UUF3P-ISS Patch.esp

148 94 Boulevard of Broken Dreams.esp

149 95 IntoTheDeepWoods.esp

150 96 Existence 2.0.esp

151 97 ArefuExpandedByAzar-Radio.esp

152 98 Scout Outfits.esp

153 99 RockopolisRebuilt.esp

154 9a Lookout Outfits.esp

155 9b GilbertToys.esp

156 9c Conelrad 640-1240.esp

157 9d delayzeta.esp

158 9e Tattered_suits.esp

159 9f PAL - MERGED.esp

160 a0 MTCBigTownRobotFix.esp

161 a1 Freebooter_Armor.esp

162 a2 DIM TYPE3clothesRETAIL.esp

       (TWPC) BBD-FWE Patch.esp

       (TWPC) BFO-MMM-EVE-UUF3P-FWE Patch.esp

163 a3 Brahmin Dairy Products.esp

164 a4 megalight.esp

       (TWPC) BRCC-PB Patch.esp

       (TWPC) BVR-FWE Patch.esp

       (TWPC) CMRP-FWE Patch.esp

165 a5 FO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore.esp

166 a6 PLFewerItems.esp

       FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp

167 a7 WinterizedT51bDX.esp

       (TWPC) GE-UUF3P Patch.esp

       (TWPC) K9B-MMM-UUF3P-FWE Patch.esp

       (TWPC) MMM-EBTMGFWE-UUF3P-FWE Patch.esp

       (TWPC) PLR-MMM Patch.esp

       (TWPC) RRE-PB-FWE Patch.esp

       (TWPC) WD-DIFF3-UUF3P-FWE Patch.esp

       Mart's Mutant Mod - DC Interiors.esp

168 a8 GlowingGhouls-MMM.esp

       (TWPC) TMI-FWE Patch.esp

       CPD_Ingestible_Patch.esp

169 a9 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

That is copied from LOOT. Anything that is not loaded was put into that state during the creation of the Bashed Patch.

 

Thanks for your time!

Aipaca

 

Edit: Forgot to mention that it doesn't seem to happen when I load the "Core Fixes and Base UI" version.

Edited September 4, 2017 by Kelmych

[Kelmych]

The first time you leave Vault 101 cell the game needs to load a lot of resources for the next cell, so there might not be enough availble memory. The "Core Fixes and Base UI" profile needs a lot less resources since it only includes a few of the mods. As you are installing it's always a good idea to make several profiles after the "Core Fixes and Base UI" and the completed installation so you can check for problems like this. I assume you installed the Anti-crash, Stutter remover and ENBoost which help with this. Post your system specs to help diagnose the issue.

 

By the way, all of the TWPC patches and the CPD Ingestibles patch should be after the bashed patch in the load order.

[aipaca]

Thanks for your help, I hadn't installed ENBoost as I misunderstood and thought that it would take up more resources and reduce performance for the game, not for the system overall. I have installed it, fixed the load order and briefly tested it and it seems to be working (I can walk to Megaton at least now) so thanks very much, have really enjoyed learning more about the guts of the game and am keen to play it now that hopefully it's fixed!

[Kelmych]

Getting to Megaton after leaving Vault 101 seems to be one of the most resource usage intensive parts of the game. After that you shouldn't find the area close to Megaton causing many resource use problems. I haven't seen many VRAM use problems in FO3 on systems with at least 2 Gb of VRAM.