SRLE Extended: Legacy of The Dragonborn

[baronaatista]

I really don't understand the use of all of them at the same time, personally.  Though I don't think SkyTweak would really make up for some of the more important features.  

 

I use Vigor with the movement tweaks file and absolutely love it, have had multiple fairly long playthroughs with it.  I chose it initially over Wildcat because of the way it handles injuries, and I also love the way it handles stamina and movement.  Don't see a necessity for any further tweaking.  DC, UC & AC all have some pretty cool features, but theres really only a handful of things between them that Vigor doesn't already do (with movement tweaks).

 

I am gonna check out Wounds though, personally.  I like Vigor's injury system because it's a little more complex & involved than Wildcats (was? I think WC removed injuries?) but its still a little simplistic for me.  @memnochs' recommendation sparked my interest though...  so yeah, Vigor + Movement Tweaks + Wounds (maybe... might be TOO involved... will be testing) is a simpler setup with only minor overlap and still accomplishes most of what these other combinations are doing... just my two cents.

[DarkladyLexy]

I agree with baronaatista i will at the very least install Vigor + Movement Tweaks +  the CACO Vigor campfire patch on my current game. Vigor used to be part of the guide before wildcat anyway and since they now complement each other better i worth a second look.

 

All the others i will have to think about.

 

Can i ask from the people that use both Wildcat and vigor what options they select in the MCM's for Vigor and wildcat so the work well together?

[reddvilzz]

I agree with baronaatista i will at the very least install Vigor + Movement Tweaks + the CACO Vigor campfire patch on my current game. Vigor used to be part of the guide before wildcat anyway and since they now complement each other better i worth a second look.

 

All the others i will have to think about.

 

Can i ask from the people that use both Wildcat and vigor what options they select in the MCM's for Vigor and wildcat so the work well together?

Was about to ask the same thing about what did they change in MCM.

I really don't understand the use of all of them at the same time, personally. Though I don't think SkyTweak would really make up for some of the more important features.

 

I use Vigor with the movement tweaks file and absolutely love it, have had multiple fairly long playthroughs with it. I chose it initially over Wildcat because of the way it handles injuries, and I also love the way it handles stamina and movement. Don't see a necessity for any further tweaking. DC, UC & AC all have some pretty cool features, but theres really only a handful of things between them that Vigor doesn't already do (with movement tweaks).

 

I am gonna check out Wounds though, personally. I like Vigor's injury system because it's a little more complex & involved than Wildcats (was? I think WC removed injuries?) but its still a little simplistic for me. @memnochs' recommendation sparked my interest though... so yeah, Vigor + Movement Tweaks + Wounds (maybe... might be TOO involved... will be testing) is a simpler setup with only minor overlap and still accomplishes most of what these other combinations are doing... just my two cents.

Yes WC removed the complex injuries which I really like actually instead of the more general injuries used right now. Before it was really specific.

 

To each their own I guess, but I'm really curious on how they will work if I combined all of them at the same time. Gonna test it pretty sure.

 

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[baronaatista]

On a completely different topic, I'm doing a Helgen Reborn playthrough (or, attempting to).  I've read all the stuff in the book about what to do with Alt Start; the bandits have indeed set up in Helgen, spikey bodies out front and all.  However the 2nd collapse added by LAL is NOT disabled.  So as I understand it, that rubble pile will not be removed as I restore the keep if I play this way.  I have a save just out front so I could test this - what to do? Anyone else have trouble with this?

[DarkladyLexy]

hey guys curious has anyone tried out:

Finally First Person Magic Animation - https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/87102/?

1stperson Parry Animation - https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/87327/?

[ATMPlays]

Undeath Classical Lichdom updated to 5.10

[reddvilzz]

Undeath Classical Lichdom updated to 5.10

Oh thank God I haven't start playing. Was about to.

hey guys curious has anyone tried out:

Finally First Person Magic Animation - https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/87102/?

1stperson Parry Animation - https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/87327/?

That's on my list to test after the combat mods. Maybe you'll test it first rather than me.

 

I'm cleaning my downloaded mods folder and just noticed about DCO. Anyone still using DCO with the recent guide? I would like to know the set up for it.

 

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[Monobloc]

i'm not sure why my saves won't load, as soon as i load any of my saves the game instantly crashes.

[jdsmith2816]

I really don't understand the use of all of them at the same time, personally.  Though I don't think SkyTweak would really make up for some of the more important features.  

 

Each of the mods I listed handle seperate things.  Mortal Enemies + Athletik + Wildcat + Deadly Combat...  Wildcat and Deadly Combat have some overlap but even the author of DC prefers to run it with Wildcat.  They complement each other well when properly configured.  Athletik and Mortal Enemies goes a long way towards fixing movement in combat and the retarded angular momentum of npcs and animals.

Edited November 21, 2017 by jdsmith2816

[DarkladyLexy]

Oh thank God I haven't start playing. Was about to.That's on my list to test after the combat mods. Maybe you'll test it first rather than me.

To be honest I had a look and I actually prefer vanilla so i am sticking with what we already got.

[baronaatista]

I've been using 1st person parry since I saw it on Nexus, really like it.  The 1st person magic animation haven't played with but wasn't really excited about the video.

 

@JD - I mean, to each his own.  I'm sure they do all work together fine, I just generally prefer to try to keep things simple, as my mod list is already massive enough.  There is also something to be said for the consistent vision of one author, IMO; Vigor + movement tweaks achieves most of what that combo does, and most of the stuff I'm missing I don't *think* makes a big difference (or, like DC's spell reflect on timed ward 'block' I feel would fit better as a perk in Ordinator).  

 

Anyone have any advice on Helgen Reborn?  I can't find anything related.  As far as I'm aware, all of the requirements / stages have been properly met, bandits have taken up residence, bodies on spikes out front, but the collapse inside the fort (added by LAL) still happens.  

[DarkladyLexy]

Anyone have any advice on Helgen Reborn?  I can't find anything related.  As far as I'm aware, all of the requirements / stages have been properly met, bandits have taken up residence, bodies on spikes out front, but the collapse inside the fort (added by LAL) still happens.  

Might best to consult Arthmoor There could be conflict in xedit i missed or something.

 

Also you use both Wild cat and Vigor cna i ask what setting you use for there MCM's i would guess having Vigor manage Stamina and Injuries and wildcat deal with combat?

[berndaroy]

Monobloc hi! Unless you have done something dramatic..i.e uninstalled mod mid play though...not sure! However if you have updated a mod the general rule as i understand it and open to correction, is too:

 

(1). LOOT: Perform the following(and again every time mods change with an esp):
(2). FNIS: Perform the following(and again every time animation mods are changed):
(3). Wyre Bash: Perform the following (and again every time mods change with an esp)
(4). DynDOLOD: This will only need to be executed again if object textures are changed.Perform the following to execute TexGen.exe:
(5). Skyproc Patches:Each time load order is changed,SUM should be run again to remake all existing patches.Failure to do so may lead to a CTD on startup.

 

Back up your last save and try running the above patches were applicable and see if this helps

[baronaatista]

@ Lexy - I only use Vigor actually... used to use them together before they became so similar, but I think they have diverged a bit since then. That does sound right though, especially if you’re using the movement tweaks file I’d suggest letting Vigor handle stamina. I really like Vigor’s poise system for stagger as well, can’t quite remember how it’s handled in WC...

[berndaroy]

Well if we are looking at a more realistic view to playing, combat with wounds etc, then safe to say, we then need diseases mod/s that are more effective/aggressive, after all we are running around in tombs, fighting decayed corpse etc, as well as Memnochs time mods i.e world still revolves even in menu/itinerary view etc. I too have looked at skytweaks but not sure how it will play with this set-up and thus always on back burner....just my two pence worth

 

Baronaatista hi! I have always understood that with Helgen Reborn, not to read the book until slightly later: On receiving the museum curators notes on start locations and completing his museum tour, i traveled to Helgen to receive the promised goods, and that sets the main quest off to go to Riverrun or investigate the ruins. Once inside (if investigating) the collapse takes place.....forward to the Whiterun gate guard stopping you. These stages need to be done prior to read and activating the Helgen Reborn quest to find Patsy. These instructions may have changed, but were the steps advised i.e visit Helgen, collapse, talk to guard needed to be done first, before starting HR quest on the HR web page...but admit it was awhile ago that i read this...and never completed the full quest to observe if a clean up takes place..hope it might help and not confuse