pack Requiem Pack (WIP)

[AQuintus]

SR:LE just added a new mod: RS Children Overhaul (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/55555/?) that has a Requiem patch.

[Smile44]

Thanks patch has been added to pack.

 

[deadbody]

Hi,

 

first I have to say I really like this guide as well as the included optimizations, very helpful indeed!

 

I plan on trying a new mod build including STEP:Extended 2.2.9 as base, extended by a basic STEP:REGS and full Requiem. At the moment I'm sketching out which mods to use, which to omit as well as searching for possible conflicts before even starting. I intend to wait at least until STEP 2.2.9 is final and REGS has been carrying over the changes.

 

So the following questions arose from that, regarding the Requiem installation process, maybe you can help me out on that:

 

1) Is following these guides in the mentioned order appropriate, considering I would do thorough stability testing after installation of STEP:EX, REGS and Requiem respectively?

 

2) The STEP:Extended Patch merges Disease Descriptions as well as No NPC Greetings. Both are not needed for Requiem. Do they conflict with Requiem or can they simply be overwritten? Having to leave out the STEP Patch would be disappointing.

 

3) I intend to use Immersive Armors and Weapons and stumbled across this: https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimrequiem/comments/29xl2y/bashed_patch_does_not_incorporate_all_requiem/ I managed to get STEP:Extended 2.2.9 running as described in the guide but I'm still a newbie to bashed patches. I have a basic understanding of what they are for and what they are doing. In the link they mention the line from this guide:

 

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NOTE: Do not add stats, names and tweaks to your bashed patch as it can mess up Requiem's armor and weapon values, just use merged mods and leveled lists.

 

If I understand correctly that means i have to remove all name and stats tags from mods that come with them and just leave the relev and delev tags? Or is there anything else I have to do to avoid such issues?

Edited July 8, 2014 by deadbody

[Smile44]

1) install Step, Regs and test then Requiem.

 

2) you would need to load Requiem after the STEP patch.

 

3) No you don't need to do that. When you build the bashed patch you will get options of which you only select the merge and levelled list options.

 

Edited July 8, 2014 by Smile44

[deadbody]

Ah now I get it, thanks a bunch!

[Roberbond]

  On 7/8/2014 at 5:45 AM, Smile44 said:

2) you would need to load Requiem after the STEP patch. 

but the STEP PATCH must be one of the last patches before the bashed patch, isn´t it? in the 2.2.9. STEP instructions the STEP PATCH has a priority 989000

can i rely on loot to order the requiem mods?

[EssArrBee]

The LOOT priority works by sorting a patch with a super high number last among conflicting mods. I used to say load it last in the BOSS days because that was necessary. Now It should be one of the last mods. In STEP Extended I believe two mods are loaded after it, iHUD, and Minty's Lightning. Neither will make any difference since they don't touch any of the same records.

 

LOOT should sort the requiem mods properly, but there should be someone looking in TES5Edit to make sure.

[Smile44]

It doesn't sort Requiem properly as yet. The STEP extended patch deals with issues relating to the mods installed by STEP Extended. Requiem adds other things to it, so it will override where it needs to in STEP. Requiem and all of its patches should load post STEP patch but before the Bashed patch. Mods like Interesting NPCs should load after the Requiem patches with their respective patches following. In other words install Requiem on top of your STEP install.

 

LOOT does not sort Requiem properly. Requiem needs to be close to the end of the load order but LOOT sticks it in really early so it gets overwritten by a lot of other mods which will cause Requiem changes to not work. REGS does not add changes to vanilla stats so it can load in with STEP and be sorted by LOOT, but you will need to add special instructions for Requiem. Mods that add NPCs and or changes to NPCs need to be loaded after Requiem and it's patches but if you add mods that do not have Requiem patches then those new NPCs may well be very underpowered.

 

Hope this helps.

 

[EssArrBee]

  On 7/8/2014 at 5:19 PM, Smile44 said:

It doesn't sort Requiem properly as yet. The STEP extended patch deals with issues relating to the mods installed by STEP Extended. Requiem adds other things to it, so it will override where it needs to in STEP. Requiem and all of its patches should load post STEP patch but before the Bashed patch. Mods like Interesting NPCs should load after the Requiem patches with their respective patches following. In other words install Requiem on top of your STEP install.

 

LOOT does not sort Requiem properly. Requiem needs to be close to the end of the load order but LOOT sticks it in really early so it gets overwritten by a lot of other mods which will cause Requiem changes to not work. REGS does not add changes to vanilla stats so it can load in with STEP and be sorted by LOOT, but you will need to add special instructions for Requiem. Mods that add NPCs and or changes to NPCs need to be loaded after Requiem and it's patches but if you add mods that do not have Requiem patches then those new NPCs may well be very underpowered.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Anything in the STEP Patches you want to use in your own patch is fine. You just need to continue to distribute it through STEP, like you do now, for permission reasons with SMIM. We will probably start putting Pack patches in the nexus Optional files as we move toward a solution that lets us support Packs more thoroughly. You can also make a wiki page for any plugin you create if you feel it is necessary.

 

After we finally get 2.2.9 out, you can bug me about anything if you have any questions.

[Spock]

Just a small headsup about the patch:

 

The silicon lottery really really hates me. I bought an r9 290 vapor-x in hopes that it will be more stable then the pcs+. Well, the card I received is even more unstable then the pcs+ ones, producing black screens more frequently and putting BSODs in the mix :(

 

I spend a lot of time troubleshooting my hardware, testing the card in other people's stable systems, testing other cards in mine. Despite the fact that testing a Syrim pack on an unstable system is kind of useless, all the troubleshooting kind of reduces my motivation to sit down and do more trouble shooting in form of a pack patch. Hopefully I can resolve my GPU issues in the near future, maybe if I keep sending cards back one will eventually work.

 

Regards,

 

Spock

[Roberbond]

  On 7/8/2014 at 5:19 PM, Smile44 said:

Requiem needs to be close to the end of the load order but LOOT sticks it in really early so it gets overwritten by a lot of other mods which will cause Requiem changes to not work. 

 

So if i set the step patch with a high priority and then i add a rule to load requiem after STEP patch, will loot order rightly?

[Smile44]

It would be great to have the input / access to advice as for now I'm generally referring to patches already made and on the nexus for the specific mods in question e.g. Azirok's mods. Spock made a patch / patches for STEP, though they may be a tad out of date. I am no expert on patching though I can and have produced some here and there I am not passionate about it. In the case of Requiem there are only a handful needed for a STEP install and some of those are optional but as requiem touches nearly everything in the game any mod loaded after it needs to be carefully chosen so that it adds something to the game. For example Requiem allows locks to only be picked with at lest one perk in the tree, but you can also open locks with a weapon or spell if your skill is high enough (except master locks). If you feel that Lock overhaul is better and you must have it then load it after Requiem - but it isn't really needed. Traps are more dangerous and hidden so similar mods are not needed but may be preferred, dragon fear negates "Run for your Lives", "When vampires attack" not needed as those random attacks are stopped and DG does not start until level 30. Dragons vampires and werewolves are faster and far more dangerous, AI is improved both animal / monsters and allies / enemies, NPCs have better stats, potions and weapons, economy is harder and so on. There are so many mods that can enhance the game but are already covered in this overhaul, including specifically placed items and creatures / enemies.

 

What Requiem doesn't really cover is textures, animations, lighting weather etc.. oh and of course new lands dungeons and buildings yay REGS. So nothing bar the bashed patch should be loaded after Requiem unless it specifically needs to or you want another mods function instead - but that way does lead to problems, complexity and patching.

 

Thanks for your input SRB.

 

[EssArrBee]

  On 7/8/2014 at 6:52 PM, Roberbond said:

 

 

So if i set the step patch with a high priority and then i add a rule to load requiem after STEP patch, will loot order rightly?

 

Yes, you could do that. You can also add a higher priority number to the plugin that you want sorted after the STEP patch that will sort it lower if there is a conflict between that plugin and the STEP Patch. Just make sure the priority number is lower than the Bashed Patch.

[Smile44]

  On 7/8/2014 at 6:52 PM, Roberbond said:

 

 

So if i set the step patch with a high priority and then i add a rule to load requiem after STEP patch, will loot order rightly?

 

Possibly it depends on your modlist - why not pm it to me or your ideas for mods you would like to add and I will get back to you as to what you should do. Other wise Let Loot sort all your mods then add Requiem to sort last, see what happens. I have not played with loot  too much as I am quite happy with BOSS. I sort Requiem.esp at BOTTOM Realism then all relevant patches after that which would be the Shield fix, then Resources, followed by Dragonborn then the CCOR patches, then any REGS related patches and NPC mods plus patches.I have merged a lot of mine though to keep the count down. so the end of my load order looks like this.

 

 

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Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Falskaar.esm

Wyrmstooth.esp

Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

AemersRefuge.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

mannyBlackRock.esm

mannyDragonhead.esm

ORS_MorthalPain.esm

ORS_SolitudeGate.esm

RSkyrimChildren.esm

WinterholdDestruction.esm

XFLMain.esm

REGS - Resources.esm

DSAMG - Miraak Music Fixes.esp

RelightingSkyrim-FULL.esp

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

RS Children.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp

AOS.esp

You Hunger.esp

mintylightningmod.esp

MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp

Cutting Room Floor.esp

SMIM-Merged-All.esp

TradeBarter.esp

AMatterOfTime.esp

AshRocks.esp

Bring Out Your Dead.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

Dual Sheath Redux.esp

EpisodeParallax.esp

Extended Encounters.esp

FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp

HoldBorderBanners.esp

Immersive Patrols II.esp

Immersive NPC in the dark.esp

Moss Rocks Legendary.esp

Moss Rocks_DB.esp

NPC Knockout Overhaul.esp

ORM-Arvak.esp

PerkPointPotion.esp

PilgrimsDelight.esp

Point The Way.esp

SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp

SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Complete.esp

SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

SulfurRocks.esp

tpos_merged_280614.esp

WM Trap Fixes.esp

WetandCold.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

WetandCold - Holidays.esp

WEBS extended.esp

Footprints.esp

Footprints - Ash.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

towConversation.esp

UIExtensions.esp

SkyUI.esp

iHUD.esp

AHZmoreHUD.esp

iNeed.esp

Cloaks.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp

Evil MasterMind Armor.esp

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Improved Closefaced Helmets_Legendary.esp

LustmordVampireArmor.esp

NightingaleArrows.esp

ScarletDawnArmor.esp

Witch Of The Wild.esp

Mini-Merged-Mods.esp

Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

AdalMatar.esp

quest_andtherealmsofdaedra.esp

Apple garden.esp

BetterDGEntrance.esp

CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp

CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp

Daggercross_Alley.esp

DragonmournInn.esp

DSAMG - Greybeard Fix.esp

Gildergreen Regrown.esp

tos_granitehall.esp

Hebrock_Der Schatten von Meresis - EV.esp

high hrothgar overhaul.esp

Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp

Inns and Taverns.esp

MzarkWonders.esp

Nightingale Hall.esp

quest_nomercy.esp

ORS_ChaptersLinker.esp

ORS_DremoraUpdate.esp

quest_pitfighter.esp

quest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

When Vampires Attack.esp

quest_seaofghosts.esp

Sky Haven Temple M&M3.esp

Snowbound Acres.esp

TheDomain.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

Undeath.esp

SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp

Book Covers Skyrim.esp

dD-No Twitching Dragon Death Animation.esp

SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB + FS + WT.esp

SkyFalls DB + FS Small Waterfalls.esp

SFO - Dragonborn.esp

SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

ORM Convenient Alsvid.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp

aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp

Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp

ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp

Helgen Reborn.esp

RavenRockExpanded.esp

tos_amber_guard.esp

tos_laintardale_hf.esp

WhiterunAlivePiano.esp

DawnofRiften.esp

Understone Keep Repair.esp

HearthfireChimneys - ETaC.esp

REGS - Better City Entrances.esp

REGS - Better Docks.esp

RBB Long and Row Boats - REGS.esp

RBB - Row Boats - Hearthfire Hotfix.esp

RBB Large Boats.esp

HearthfireChimneysFalskaar.esp

Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp

Better Dynamic Snow.esp

Prometheus_NSUTR BDS Patch.esp

Prometheus_NSUTR Falskaar Dock.esp

UniqueBorderGates-All.esp

UniqueBorderGates-All-BetterDGEntrance.esp

UniqueBorderGates-All-PointTheWay.esp

DawnofWindhelm.esp

BFT Ships and Carriages.esp

Provincial Courier Service.esp

REGS - Cities.esp

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

ELFX - Exteriors.esp

ELFX - Dawnguard.esp

ELFX - Dragonborn.esp

Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp

Pureweather.esp

Vividian ENB.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

GuardAnimationsGDO.esp

Requiem.esp

Requiem - Heavy Shield Fix v1.7.3.esp

DeadlyDragons.esp

Requiem - Merged Patches.esp

Requiem - Wyrmstooth.esp

BFSEffects.esp

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp

Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp

DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp

No Skill Limit.esp

OBIS.esp

OBISDB.esp

OBISDB-FaceMasksFix.esp

OBIS Redone.esp

OBIS FALSKAAR PATCH.esp

dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp

Beards.esp

Brows.esp

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp

Inconsequential NPCs.esp

Requiem - Inconsequential NPCs.esp

3DNPC.esp

REGS Patch - Riften NavFull.esp

MoonAndStar_MAS.esp

3DNPC - Requiem Patch.esp

Inigo.esp

Requiem - Inigo Patch1.13.esp

XFLPlugins.esp

Aela.esp

Bijin Warmaidens.esp

Frea.esp

Rayya.esp

Requiem - Bijin Warmaidens HF.esp

EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp

EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp

Requiem - Vilja.esp

EMViljessicaPatch.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

Atlas Legendary.esp

Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp

OBIS - Requiem Patch.esp

OBISDB - Requiem Patch.esp

Merged Compatribility Patches2.esp

ELE-Interior Lighting Merged.esp

SR Conflict Resolution.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

ASIS-Dependency.esp

ASIS.esp

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

 

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

P.S. I sort the SR Conflict Resolution patch late because it does not overly interfere with Requiem, I do not know if the STEP one does but if it did the I would need to sort Requiem.esp after it etc...

 

EDIT Ninja ered. But my answer has more protein in it even if it is largely indigestible.

Edited July 8, 2014 by Smile44

[Roberbond]

I have had another issue with the new step core patch. Loot can´t order my mods if i set requiem after the step patch because there is a redundant error. 

My solution was to give 100 priority to requiem.esp so it loads at the bottom of my order list. But it is not loaded after  STEP Core patch. Your requiem patch is loaded after STEP Core patch.