DynDOLOD 3.00 Alpha 182

[sheson]

5 hours ago, maxis123 said:

Sheson, can I ask for a link to an earlier alpha Dyndolod 3.0 (30-37), since on this version the generation of Lods on my PC is not possible

Read the first post what DynDOLOD 3 alpha is and what to do in case of problems. Same philosophy since years actually, problems are troubleshooted and fixed.

[KLWaster]

On 9/6/2021 at 12:41 PM, sheson said:

Really odd. The DLC01SoulCairnx-005y-003.cgid file contains data from a terrain LOD *.BTR mesh.

Delete the file DLC01SoulCairnx-005y-003.cgid.
NGIO should recreate it if you use
cow DLC01SoulCairn -5 -3
from main menu console. With the updated file DynDOLOD/LODGen should run through.

I was able to get it to work after regenerating the entire grass cache. 

As far as where the .BTR might have gotten into the .CGID file, I did have some flat paper map mods installed at the time I generated the original grass cache, and one of those mods covered the soul cairn. Since these mods include their own .BTR files, it's possible that a map-mod file got used when generating the .CGID file. 

This time around, I disabled all of the paper map mods while generating the grass cache, Texgen, and Dyndolod. Whether disabling them was what enabled it to work this time or it was just a coincidence, I don't know. 

I hope this info is useful, and thanks for the assistance. 

[sheson]

7 hours ago, KLWaster said:

I was able to get it to work after regenerating the entire grass cache. 

As far as where the .BTR might have gotten into the .CGID file, I did have some flat paper map mods installed at the time I generated the original grass cache, and one of those mods covered the soul cairn. Since these mods include their own .BTR files, it's possible that a map-mod file got used when generating the .CGID file. 

This time around, I disabled all of the paper map mods while generating the grass cache, Texgen, and Dyndolod. Whether disabling them was what enabled it to work this time or it was just a coincidence, I don't know. 

I hope this info is useful, and thanks for the assistance. 

I could imagine such stuff could only happening when something crashes while files are written.

[TheDude]

Hi Sheson, perhaps a silly question but Im currently trying out three different meshrules in order to determine what works best for my setup and I was wondering: 

Since I now have successfully generated three different "Dyndolod-output.zip-files" (zip1= "LOD4/Level0, LOD8/Billboard4, LOD16/Billboard1" /  zip2= "LOD4/Billboard4, LOD8/Billboard4, LOD16/Billboard1" / zip3= " LOD4/Level0, LOD8/Billboard2, LOD16/Billboard2") I guess I don't have to do a "clean save/install" if I would like to test and compare these quickly? It should be enough with removing the old zip (1) for the new one (2) in my modorganizer (since they are based/generated on the exact same meshes/textures/skse/Texgen)?

Edited September 9, 2021 by TheDude

[z929669]

47 minutes ago, TheDude said:

Hi Sheson, perhaps a silly question but Im currently trying out three different meshrules in order to determine what works best for my setup and I was wondering: 

Since I now have successfully generated three different "Dyndolod-output.zip-files" (zip1= "LOD4/Level0, LOD8/Billboard4, LOD16/Billboard1" /  zip2= "LOD4/Billboard4, LOD8/Billboard4, LOD16/Billboard1" / zip3= " LOD4/Level0, LOD8/Billboard2, LOD16/Billboard2") I guess I don't have to do a "clean save/install" if I would like to test and compare these quickly? It should be enough with removing the old zip (1) for the new one (2) in my modorganizer (since they are based/generated on the exact same meshes/textures/skse/Texgen)?

Going by the documentation and my own OCD, in order to guarantee that object LOD is representative of what we think it should be, we need a clean save between differing DynDOLOD runs. Here's what I do:

1. Start a new game, using Alternate Start mod to give me Breezehome (or wherever is convenient for my testing)
2. Walk down to my front door and make sure my weather-switching mod is readied
3. Wait until noon-ish
4. Save (this is my clean save that I can reload every time DynDOLOD output changes)
5. Exit home, and approach front gate (DynDOLOD successfully activates as I walk to the gate)
6. Enter the worldspace exterior by opening the gate
7. COC/COW to a position and possibly use distant references to line myself up for screenshots

This way, you can always use the save game at step 4 for each run.

Another tip: you don't need to zip your outputs. They can be placed directly into the empty mod. This saves some tedium and time when working with lots of outputs if you have the drive space. MO doesn't install mods as archives either even though it will read from them.

[TheDude]

Sweet, thanks a lot for the advice dude! Yeah, I know all about OCD... :-S

[sheson]

2 hours ago, TheDude said:

Hi Sheson, perhaps a silly question but Im currently trying out three different meshrules in order to determine what works best for my setup and I was wondering: 

Since I now have successfully generated three different "Dyndolod-output.zip-files" (zip1= "LOD4/Level0, LOD8/Billboard4, LOD16/Billboard1" /  zip2= "LOD4/Billboard4, LOD8/Billboard4, LOD16/Billboard1" / zip3= " LOD4/Level0, LOD8/Billboard2, LOD16/Billboard2") I guess I don't have to do a "clean save/install" if I would like to test and compare these quickly? It should be enough with removing the old zip (1) for the new one (2) in my modorganizer (since they are based/generated on the exact same meshes/textures/skse/Texgen)?

Why would you save between tests and then load that save for the next test when testing mods?

For quick LOD testing, simply coc whiterun form main menu.

Or keep loading  the same save that was cleaned or never saw DynDOLOD output before.

[z929669]

21 minutes ago, sheson said:

Why would you save between tests and then load that save for the next test when testing mods?

For quick LOD testing, simply coc whiterun form main menu.

Or keep loading  the same save that was cleaned or never saw DynDOLOD output before.

Good to know that this should work as well. Never thought of it.

[Vyse458]

Hello I have a problem with my LOD with both a vanilla game and using LODgen. The LOD doesn't change assets until I'm very fairly close. Made sure ugrids was at 5. This happens on a completely vanilla fallout 4 not sure what the issue is 

 

Rtx 2080ti 

I7 8700k 

16g ram 

M.2 SSD 

[sheson]

7 hours ago, Vyse458 said:

Hello I have a problem with my LOD with both a vanilla game and using LODgen. The LOD doesn't change assets until I'm very fairly close. Made sure ugrids was at 5. This happens on a completely vanilla fallout 4 not sure what the issue is 

 

Rtx 2080ti 

I7 8700k 

16g ram 

M.2 SSD 

The LOD area starts beyond the active cells, the uGridsToLoad. Large objects that have their origin outside the active cells may span across cell borders. That is how the engine always worked as you already found out by verifying with the vanilla settings and game.

[Vyse458]

Thats just how it is? Its so Jarring even with ultra Everything.

 

Theres picture of my char standing on the rock beyond the bridge

 

Fo4lodgen Makes the LOD better for sure but its still jarring.

Besides increasing ugridstoload is there anything else that can be done? I've already maxed out everything with bethini.

Edited September 10, 2021 by Vyse458

[sheson]

1 hour ago, Vyse458 said:

Thats just how it is? Its so Jarring even with ultra Everything.

 

Theres picture of my char standing on the rock beyond the bridge

 

Fo4lodgen Makes the LOD better for sure but its still jarring.

Besides increasing ugridstoload is there anything else that can be done? I've already maxed out everything with bethini.

 

The LOD area starts beyond the active cells, the uGridsToLoad area. To show full models (like clouds) in that area, the references need to be persistent and have the Is Full LOD flag set. Obviously this can not be done for too many things for performance reasons.

I suggest to create/install higher quality LOD models/textures. AFAIK there are a couple mods for FO4 that do just that.

[TheDude]

12 hours ago, sheson said:

Why would you save between tests and then load that save for the next test when testing mods?

For quick LOD testing, simply coc whiterun form main menu.

Or keep loading  the same save that was cleaned or never saw DynDOLOD output before.

True, thats even better! Will use "coc location" next time! Thanks!

[backudog]

Im new to using DYNDOLOD, but its been working fine so far, but I just changed a texture mod overhaul type thingy for Whiterun that came with a wip lods (the only thing i've changed or added) TEXGEN ran fine, but when i try to run DYNDOLOD it gets so far and then this pops up 

[Window Title]
DynDOLOD

[Main Instruction]
Can not resolve large reference in Skyrim.esm for cell [49,-13] in Reference #12 for Skyrim.esm SkuldafnWorld "Skuldafn" [WRLD:000278DD]

[Content]

Help for this message

FIX THE ERROR as explained in the help OR PERMANENTLY REMOVE THE BROKEN PLUGIN.
Ignore wrong "advice" to only temporarily disable plugins.
Do not try to circumvent the error message, FIX THE ERROR instead.

[Exit DynDOLOD]

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I don't know what any of that means, so not sure what i have to replace or fix? the help didn't really..er..help, so can anyone point me in the right direction please?

[sheson]

25 minutes ago, backudog said:

Im new to using DYNDOLOD, but its been working fine so far, but I just changed a texture mod overhaul type thingy for Whiterun that came with a wip lods (the only thing i've changed or added) TEXGEN ran fine, but when i try to run DYNDOLOD it gets so far and then this pops up 

[Window Title]
DynDOLOD

[Main Instruction]
Can not resolve large reference in Skyrim.esm for cell [49,-13] in Reference #12 for Skyrim.esm SkuldafnWorld "Skuldafn" [WRLD:000278DD]

[Content]

Help for this message

FIX THE ERROR as explained in the help OR PERMANENTLY REMOVE THE BROKEN PLUGIN.
Ignore wrong "advice" to only temporarily disable plugins.
Do not try to circumvent the error message, FIX THE ERROR instead.

[Exit DynDOLOD]

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I don't know what any of that means, so not sure what i have to replace or fix? the help didn't really..er..help, so can anyone point me in the right direction please?

You are participating in the DynDOLOD 3 alpha test.

Read the first post. Pay attention to the part In case of error messages, click "Help for this message" if available, which will open ..\DynDOLOD\docs\help\Unresolved.html. Read that help file.

There might be an edited/corrupt Skyrim.esm in the load order. Verifying the game files in Steam might help restoring the plugin.

In case further help to solve the issue is needed, read the first post what log files to upload when making posts.