Alternate Start causing crash on new game

[Ireman]

Hi all, hope you can help me out here.

 

I have started Skyrim:SE with a clean build, this is the first time I've installed the SE version of the game. Being a fan of the STEP project on the Legendary edition I looked up and followed the instructions for your SE build. However, after following all the steps up to the end of step 4 I attempted (as instructed) to run the game and check that the mods are all working correctly. Upon starting a new game I am greeted (briefly) with a loading screen with nothing but the empty level bar in the top right corner and a little animated mist in the bottom left before the game crashes to desktop.

I then proceeded to activate and deactivate the mods in order to narrow down where the problem lay. If I disable Live another life and the mods that depend on it (patches for the most part) the game will load into the cart ride perfectly fine and I have followed this line through the start of character generation with no issues. Also, if I disable all other mods but Live another life then it works fine on its own. So I'm assuming that I've either installed something wrong, missed a mod/patch or something is conflicting with it and I have no idea where to start in diagnosing this issue further.

Any ideas as to what could be the problem?

 

I'm currently using MO 2.3.0. and following STEP 0.3.0b

 

[spoiler=Mod Load Order]Skyrim.esm

Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
MajesticMountains_Moss.esp
Landscape and Water Fixes.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
AHZmoreHUD.esl
AHZmoreHUDInventory.esl
BetterContainerControls.esl
MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim II.esm
RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm
FarmhouseChimneys.esp
FISS.esp
UHDAP - en0.esp
UHDAP - en1.esp
UHDAP - en2.esp
UHDAP - en3.esp
UHDAP - en4.esp
UHDAP - MusicHQ.esp
Butterflies.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main LITE.esp
Enhanced Vanilla Trees SSE.esp
Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp
SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp
SkyUI_SE.esp
UnlimitedBookshelves.esp
Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
Gildergreen Regrown.esp
RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp
SmoothShores.esp
Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
AI Overhaul.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
MajesticMountains.esp
BDS - MM Patch.esp
Beards.esp
Better Dynamic Ash.esp
Better Dynamic Snow - Snowy Farmhouses.esp
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp
BetterQuestObjectives - BCS Patch.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
Realistic Boat Bobbing.esp
Point The Way.esp
Oakwood.esp
Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
Oblivion Gates Remade.esp
EmbersHD.esp
Bring Out Your Dead.esp
Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library.esp
Helarchen Creek.esp
Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Cutting Room Floor Locations.esp
Landscape For Grass Mods - Oakwood PATCH.esp
NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp
PilgrimsDelight.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
Brows.esp
Cathedral Weathers.esp
CathedralWeatherMCM.esp
Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
ClavicusArgonianMasque.esp
CrittersAintSnitches.esp
Cutting Room Floor - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
Disease Descriptions.esp
Dragon Stalking Fix.esp
DragonShoutVoice.esp
DustEffectsSSE.esp
Elemental_Staffs.esp
FNIS.esp
Footprints.esp
Frost Meshes Patch.esp
getSnowy.esp
GIST soul trap.esp
GoOnAhead.esp
GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Hearthfires Houses Building Fix.esp
Helarchen Creek - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp
IHSS.esp
iHUD.esp
imp_helm_legend.esp
Improved Traps.esp
ImprovedClosefacedHelmets_WACCF.esp
Landscape and Water Fixes - Patch - Relighting Skyrim.esp
Lock_Overhaul.esp
LoS II - Oakwood patch.esp
LoS II - Helarchen Creek patch.esp
NotSoFast-MageGuild.esp
LoS II - SMIM patch.esp
NB-Scars.esp
RBB - Oakwood Patch.esp
RBB - USSEP Patch.esp
Oblivion Gates Remade - Map Markers.esp
Oblivion Gates Remade - Mountain Texture with MM Shader.esp
ORM-Arvak.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Realistic AI Detection 2 SE - Medium Interior, Medium Exterior.esp
ReasonableMovementSpeed.esp
RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted - GIST.esp
Simple AUA.esp
Snotgurg Simple Drop Lit Torches.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
SparklesSE.esp
SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp
StormLightning.esp
TavernAIFix.esp
TESIVLucienLachance.esp
TimingIsEverything.esp
Torches Ignite Oil - Shock Edition.esp
ViewableFactionRanks.esp
VWA_VanillaWarpaintsAbsolution.esp
WACCF - CRF Consistency Patch.esp
WACCF_Armor and Clothing Extension.esp
Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge SSE.esp
WondersofWeather.esp
XPMSE.esp
Trade & Barter.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remastered.esp
Smithing Perks Overhaul SE.esp
Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
ButterfliesUnchained.esp
ButterfliesUnchained(ESL) - CACO Patch.esp
CACO_USSEP_Patch.esp
Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul_CCOR_Patch.esp
Cathedral Landscapes.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
Cutting Room Floor - Relationship Dialogue Overhaul Patch.esp
TCIY_CRF_Patch.esp
The Choice is Yours - WACCF Consistency Patch.esp
Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Alternate start Locations.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
Luminosity Lighting Overhaul.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
Step Skyrim SE - CR Patch.esp
Realistic Water Two - Landscape For Grass Mods Patch.esp
STEP Skyrim SE - L&W Patch.esp
Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp

 

[TechAngel85]

Did you run LOOT before starting the game?

[z929669]

ditto, that would be the simplest explanation. There are a hundred other explanations if not that. I added this explicitly to this part of the guide.

[Ireman]

Yup, I've run Loot as per the guides instructions. I assumed it might be a load order issue at first and tried making Live another life and its patches the last thing to load but that just stops the game from loading at all. If I slide them back till the game loads it still crashes on new game start.

[Ireman]

Ok, through disabling all mods but Live another Life and selectively enabling them I was able to identify the problem. I seems the New Thinner Torch mod was causing the issue. I can only assume I must have installed the wrong version as after a reinstall of the mod (and slowly re-enabling each of the mods in turn) it looks like it's running fine now.