DarkladyLexy Posted June 5, 2019 Author Share Posted June 5, 2019 That's because zEdit messes up the load order for the masters. Instead of loading the masters in order as the game reads it, zEdit (zMerge) loads the masters only as each new entry in the order requires them. You can see my earlier post identifying the problem here. Updating YAWTO Aspens.esp masters list is the workaround if using the clobber method (which is the method the guide says to use). So if the improved method doesn't have this issue, then the zEdit author must have fixed it for the improved method but not the old method - in which case all merges should be using the improved method instead. It is afterall, apparently "improved" which is something of a promotion for the new method in itself.thing is is built re-built Re-Re-built this merge several time without issue using the old clobber method and many of mu DEV Team ha built without issue we can not seem to reproduce the error some users are getting. If it was an issue with zMerge surely everyone would have issues. Link to comment
shipsd3 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Question about using DynDOLOD64 during a playthrough and CTD's. Does it break things if you were to run a new DynDOLOD64 output using different quality settings, and apply them and load an existing save? Using the settings from the guide that I started with everything is fine, if I try and load a new run of DynDOLOD64_Output with medium quality instead (nothing else changed and all instruction followed) the city of Markarth will crash no matter what upon entering using any method. Everything else is fine but something with changing the DynDOLOD64 settings causes a crash in markarth, switching back to the original DynDOLOD64 high output in MO there is no issues. Link to comment
Ostegun Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) OMG DynDOLOD Resources SE is only 98MB. That must be it uffffffff Thank you Dragon King Edited June 6, 2019 by Ostegun Link to comment
Ostegun Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) So Dyndolod completed. Thank you dragon king.Then started a character walked around and CTD.So decided to see what might be up. Went back all the way to after you do FNIS and check with coc if you did something wrong with stunning statues of skyrim.No CTD. Then I was like wait CTD happened after I walked a certain distance.Indeed if I walk over let's say around 18 feet CTD.Very curious. Could it be something with stunning statues of skyrim? I mean I only CTD if I walk a certain distance. Could it be metadata. I guess I'll erase all metadata and input all of it again. Then use loot. But will wait first to see if anyone had this same issue. Edited June 6, 2019 by Ostegun Link to comment
DarkladyLexy Posted June 6, 2019 Author Share Posted June 6, 2019 Hey, guys, I have pushed my latest changes through to Nexus Version of the guide so check the changelog. Link to comment
Memoso Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 So Dyndolod completed. Thank you dragon king.Then started a character walked around and CTD.So decided to see what might be up. Went back all the way to after you do FNIS and check with coc if you did something wrong with stunning statues of skyrim.No CTD. Then I was like wait CTD happened after I walked a certain distance.Indeed if I walk over let's say around 18 feet CTD.Very curious. Could it be something with stunning statues of skyrim? I mean I only CTD if I walk a certain distance. Could it be metadata. I guess I'll erase all metadata and input all of it again. Then use loot. But will wait first to see if anyone had this same issue.So i follow this guide since November and also updated the new changelog and have neighter issue with tress and Flora merge nor with CTDs.. i mean you should Check this huge guide a second Time and also be careful when updating mods you take the same Name of the updating mod.. if you have 2 mods from the same page you might overwrite the other mod so you delete it... you know i mean ? Link to comment
Firesparq Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Hi Lexy. I've taken another attempt at getting this to function properly, and narrowed my issue down. I can successfully run a 'coc fallowstonecaveend' command if I disable Landscape environment and clutter merged (and your main conflict resolution since it relies on it) without a ctd, but as soon as I enable them, I'm getting a ctd. Any ideas as to what can be causing it? Link to comment
DarkladyLexy Posted June 6, 2019 Author Share Posted June 6, 2019 Hi Lexy. I've taken another attempt at getting this to function properly, and narrowed my issue down. I can successfully run a 'coc fallowstonecaveend' command if I disable Landscape environment and clutter merged (and your main conflict resolution since it relies on it) without a ctd, but as soon as I enable them, I'm getting a ctd. Any ideas as to what can be causing it?mmy first though would be actually stunning statues of Skyrim cos fallowstone cave leads to the shrine of Malacath Link to comment
Firesparq Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) mmy first though would be actually stunning statues of Skyrim cos fallowstone cave leads to the shrine of MalacathThe fallowstone coc command was being run to test stunning statues Based on your comments in the guide, that was the first thing I checked. Assuming disabling stunning statues should just force defaults to load, this changed nothing. Based on a hunch however, I checked my Landscape Environment and Clutter Merged profile, and have noticed the MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm toggled in the plugin list. Double checking your merge list on the merge page of the guide, apparently that isn't included in the merged mod. I've since enabled it on the main profile (disabled the other .esps activated since they're included in the merged mod), rerun LOOT and run through all the stunning statues coc commands without fail. You may wish to edit the majestic mountains install section in the main part of the guide and make a note to let people know they need to enable the .esm file in the main profile. Thanks for the quick reply though :) Edited June 6, 2019 by Firesparq Link to comment
Ostegun Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Will be going over the entire guide see what's up.In the meantime the following esp's are not activated in the right side of MO2.They where deactivated during the process by I believe the bashed patch though not certain.Will list them here just in case some of them should be active.dD-Short Script Rangebetter skilll and quest books names SEOMEGA CEOMEGA - true soldiers1nivWICSKYCLOAKSPATCHBetter Dynamic AshCompanions - Don't be a milk Drinker Farkas onlyEBT - IC patchETAC - Better dynamic Snow patchLethal TrapsLexy's LOTD Better Bows and ArrowsMoonlight tales - werebear form bug fix patchrustic soulgems unsorted esl gistlexy's LOLTD better bows and arrows - lore weapon ex...SIC - ICH PatchMissives - side quest patchJS dragon claws _ Helgen reborn patchBetter quest objectives - PatchesAudio patches mergesRS children patches mergedyot - your own thought merged First thing I'm going to do is try to activate these, the deactivate them again one by one then activate them again individually see if I notice anything.Then will check merge profiles.Then will go over entire guide.Then will nuke up to before Merges and start from there.Then if I can't figure it out cry and start from cero. :) Any ideas about what's up or how to go about finding the weak link in my install let me know pretty please.Provably start tonight. Link to comment
Ostegun Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Okay so tip N1The statues don't cause a CTD. Running around does not cause a CTD.When I come close to NPC's I get the CTD.On the new update the end of the loot section in finish line is repeated. Link to comment
Vorians Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 thing is is built re-built Re-Re-built this merge several time without issue using the old clobber method and many of mu DEV Team ha built without issue we can not seem to reproduce the error some users are getting. If it was an issue with zMerge surely everyone would have issues. Yes I remember you couldn't reproduce the problem when it first appeared, I can only assume that there is some difference in how zEdit is setup/installed or about MO2 - it could be as simple as you having extracted updates to zEdit on top of older versions which had a file no longer included in zEdit, and that file negates the problem for you, but those of us who didn't have a zEdit install that old (or deleted and replaced the zEdit folder with an update) lack that file. That's just an example of a possible reason. Another possibility is that you and your team have edited one or more of the affected ESP files at some point in the past and forgotten, and that edit is the reason you don't have problems now. Or some config file from the game or from zEdit or from MO2 etc. is forcing zEdit to read your masters in the correct order, but is not for other people. Many possible reasons. Link to comment
Firesparq Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Successfully completed all steps and loaded up fine. However I have no grass :| Link to comment
shipsd3 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 So I've never used Hoth before, whenever I give him a weapon/armor in trade or "wear items" he immediately gets naked although it shows he's equipping armor. I did not put him into the framework or use any commands. Is there a fix or must he only use his custom equipment? Link to comment
Memoso Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Successfully completed all steps and loaded up fine. However I have no grass :|So you save frames thats good :p Link to comment
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