Greg Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 Vanilla / HQ Paper (STEP) / MAPS Sleeping Giant Inn Whiterun Mage's Quarters Dragonsreach
Greg Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 Looking at these comparisons, I think the vanilla and HQ Paper maps are too shiny and clean. These maps are handled a lot, so I think Gamwich is right in that these maps should be dirty.
GrantSP Posted June 13, 2016 Posted June 13, 2016 Hmm, I'm of the opposite opinion. These are maps are used by the "elite" who tell the dirty masses what to do and as susch they will rarely get dirt on their hands, let alone their maps. I actually prefer the HQ Paper to the others.
TechAngel85 Posted June 13, 2016 Posted June 13, 2016 I actually remember comparing these in-game now. I didn't like Gamwich due to just how grungy they looked. I prefer HQ Paper and it's closer to vanilla. Gamwich in this case is what I would call a "stylistic" change from vanilla.
Fantomax Posted June 22, 2016 Posted June 22, 2016 Well, I'll go Gamwich's. Maps like that should be looking old and 'a bit' deteriorated. HQ Paper and Vanilla is just too clean.
phazer11 Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 I can see the ones on the tables and such and being handled being a bit dirtier they have people handling them, rubbing, etc and candle smoke. The ones on the wall in say Dragonsreach HQ paper all the way
Nebulous112 Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 I can see the ones on the tables and such and being handled being a bit dirtier they have people handling them, rubbing, etc and candle smoke. The ones on the wall in say Dragonsreach HQ paper all the way+1 The main thing I don't like about HQ Paper is the table maps being slightly cut off. This is pretty noticeable in the bottom right corner of the table map compares. For the wall, I agree that HQ Paper looks nicer. It also makes sense that a wall map would be in much better condition than a table map that is being handled all the time.
Greg Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 The HQ Paper wall map is cut off the same as the table map.
Nebulous112 Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 The HQ Paper wall map is cut off the same as the table map.Hmm, it is much more noticeable on the table maps in the compares (probably due to lighting). I'll have to check out both in game again.
TechAngel85 Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 I can see the ones on the tables and such and being handled being a bit dirtier they have people handling them, rubbing, etc and candle smoke. The ones on the wall in say Dragonsreach HQ paper all the way+1 The main thing I don't like about HQ Paper is the table maps being slightly cut off. This is pretty noticeable in the bottom right corner of the table map compares. For the wall, I agree that HQ Paper looks nicer. It also makes sense that a wall map would be in much better condition than a table map that is being handled all the time.I actually like this solution as well. The HQ Paper wall map is cut off the same as the table map.I'm actually not bothered by it on the wall map. It adds some variety. By the way, this is not a "cut off". If you look at it closely it's the how the author decided to do that edge. It's just "torn" rather close to the land's edge. Upon closer inspection, though Gamwich's coloring is dark and needs to be let up on the greens, the artistic style is closer to vanilla than HQ Paper.
TechAngel85 Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 Before I get asked what I mean by "greens" I mean the levels: Original >> After tiny tweak to the levels All I did as a tiny shift in the green and red levels. It's small but it'll be more noticeable in-game after processing. It could probably use a little more than that and a slight bump to it's contrast...I'm going to stop before I go off making an alternative texture. I have other things to focus on.
Fantomax Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 Upon closer inspection, though Gamwich's coloring is dark and needs to be let up on the greens, the artistic style is closer to vanilla than HQ Paper. This. Well, CMIIW but does Skyrim have 2 kind of texture for maps? Could anybody tell me the difference between those two?
TechAngel85 Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 Well, CMIIW but does Skyrim have 2 kind of texture for maps? Could anybody tell me the difference between those two?Yes and no. The map compares above are of all battlmap01.dds. There is another map, battlemap02.dds, but it is completely different. If you wanted two different maps, it would take some CK work with a duplicated mesh that points to an alternative texture. Though I said I liked the solution above, it would be a custom one and is for a mod author to provide. It's not something you can do without a mod changing things up for you. It would be a simple mod to do though. ::
Sixxness Posted June 24, 2016 Author Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) Its unrealistic such important documents would be written on cheap quality paper, often maps in history used calfskins and similar methods. Gamwich maps have a more leather look to them, take for instance "paper maps" used in the snow region camps, they wouldn't last long enough to be useful. Edited June 24, 2016 by Sixxness
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