FO3 GOTY CTD during gunfire

[steppystep 0]

Hello all!

 

Desperately seeking help for a consistent and mysterious (to me) ctd. The trouble is upon completing the partial STEP install that as far as I can tell, I've followed instructions on, I have a consistent ctd that seems to be triggered by certain audio, particularly gunfire. I know enough to be able to follow instructions and use the utilities that STEP suggests, but not enough to sleuth my way to a solution! The only other hint I have is that at the time of ctd there remains a consistent repeated sound as if the audio system is hung up on that particular spot. 

 

[spoiler=Hardware Specs]

CPU Manufacturer: Intel

CPU Model:I5 4670

CPU Speed (GHz):3.4

CPU Cores:4

GPU Manufacturer:NVIDIA

GPU Model:Geforce GTX 660

GPU VRAM:4 GB

# GPU's:1

System RAM:8 GB

Storage Type:HDD

OS Architecture:64bit - Vista

FO3 Specs

Resolution:1920x1080 (16:9)

DLC's:GOTY

 

 

 

I use Mod Organizer.

 

[spoiler=LOOT Load Order]

  0  0 Fallout3.esm

  1  1 Anchorage.esm

  2  2 ThePitt.esm

  3  3 BrokenSteel.esm

  4  4 PointLookout.esm

  5  5 Zeta.esm

  6  6 Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm

  7  7 Advanced Recon Tech.esm

  8  8 CALIBR.esm

  9  9 Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

 10  a DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

 11  b Mothership Crew.esm

 12  c AWorldOfPainFO3.esm

 13  d Vault 101 Revisited.esm

 14  e CRAFT.esm

 15  f FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

 16 10 Detect Traps.esm

 17 11 Project Beauty.esm

 18 12 Inventory Access.esm

 19 13 iHUD.esm

 20 14 RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm

 21 15 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp

 22 16 aHUD.esm

 23 17 tubrrCompound.esm

 24 18 Advanced Recon Range Finder.esp

 25 19 FWEAlienWorkBenchFix.esp

 26 1a DarNifiedUIF3.esp

       Detect Traps - DLC.esp

       Detect Traps - Perk.esp

 27 1b Advanced Recon Tech.esp

 28 1c DynamicCrosshair.esp

 29 1d Flashlight-LOS.esp

 30 1e PPA - The Pitt.esp

 31 1f GNR Enhanced.esp

       Flora Overhaul.esp

       Advanced Recon Tech - Detect Traps.esp

 32 20 JIP Selective-Fire.esp

       Mart's Mutant Mod - DC Interiors.esp

 33 21 RubblePilesFix.esp

 34 22 Realistic Interior Lighting.esp

       PPA - FWE Tougher NPC Power Armour.esp

 35 23 The Mantis Imperative - FlatVATS.esp

 36 24 The Mantis Imperative - SkillBooks.esp

 37 25 The Mantis Imperative - XP.esp

 38 26 The Mantis Imperative - Nasty Zeta.esp

 39 27 Rivet City Realignment.esp

 40 28 HeirApparent.esp

 41 29 (TWPC) RIL-UUF3P-DM Patch.esp

 42 2a WeaponModKits.esp

 43 2b RH_WMK_Bridge.esp

 44 2c WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

 45 2d WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

 46 2e WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

 47 2f WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

 48 30 WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

       DIFF WMK.esp

 49 31 WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp

 50 32 DIFF.esp

 51 33 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

 52 34 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

 53 35 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

 54 36 Advanced Recon Tech FWE.esp

 55 37 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

 56 38 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

 57 39 tubRRCompound.esp

 58 3a The Mantis Imperative - Jello.esp

 59 3b PLweightadjust.esp

       (TWPC) TMI-FWE Patch.esp

 60 3c NotSoFast.esp

 61 3d The Mantis Imperative - Mantis.esp

 62 3e CALIBRv14 Ammunition Schematics for FWE-WMK-CRAFT-V1_3-18639.esp

 63 3f MoreMapMarkers.esp

       FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp

       FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp

 64 40 Dree Perks.esp

 65 41 Advanced Recon Gear.esp

 66 42 Detect Traps - The Traponator 4000.esp

 67 43 IntoTheDeepWoods.esp

 68 44 Existence 2.0.esp

 69 45 Scout Outfits.esp

 70 46 Lookout Outfits.esp

 71 47 Tattered_suits.esp

 72 48 Freebooter_Armor.esp

 73 49 DIM TYPE3clothesRETAIL.esp

 74 4a FO3NeckChains.esp

       WeaponModKits - FWE Talon Loot Crash Fix.esp

       (TWPC) WMK-UUF3P-FWE Patch.esp

 75 4b FasterMorePowerfulMines.esp

       (TWPC) RRE-PB-FWE Patch.esp

 76 4c The Mantis Imperative - Medical.esp

 77 4d The Mantis Imperative - Combat.esp

 78 4e Powered Power Armor.esp

 79 4f PPA - FWE.esp

 80 50 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

 81 51 UUF3P - FWE Patch.esp

 82 52 Blackened FWE + MMM + Project Beauty.esp

 83 53 Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp

 84 54 Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp

       (TWPC) DIFF3-UUF3P-FWE Patch.esp

       The Mantis Imperative - Nasty Zeta No Scaling.esp

 85 55 YearlingBooks.esp

       Zeta Turret Drone Karma Fix - MMM Merged.esp

 86 56 T3_leather armors.esp

 87 57 PPA - Broken Steel.esp

       PPA - FWE 2.esp

 88 58 PPA - Mothership Zeta.esp

 89 59 PPA - Operation Anchorage.esp

 90 5a Conelrad 640-1240.esp

 91 5b PLFewerItems.esp

 92 5c Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

I follow STEP all the way through and have the CORE components, there are only a couple of optionals I've skipped.

 

I stuck with the STEP ini mods.

 

Specifically: the ctd comes when I encounter certain fights, inside buildings, or out in the wasteland. It appears to trigger off of my own weapon firing at times, others, from the NPC's. 

 

Any helpful suggestions on where to tackle this would be appreciated. This is about the fourth or fifth time I've attempted to get FO3 modded and stable and I'm about ready to call it in. 

 

**edited for format, additional info.

[steppystep 0]

Reserved for fix attempts/results:

 

1. Replaced old codec packages with update K-lite package: No change. 

Edited November 11, 2015 by steppystep

[Kelmych 5]

I haven't seen this myself in FO3. In Skyrim CTD problems with audio were sometimes caused by corrupted copies of the sound files added by mods. You might want to saving the game just before this happens (if it's predictable) and then try using MO profiles (or creating a custom profile for testing) that have fewer mods, particularly mods that include gunshot sound files. Fallout 3 has always had sound problems. You might find the pages referenced in the guide near the bottom about the stutter problem useful. The solutions for stutter usually involve changing the sound codecs; try using a different codec as discussed on the referenced pages to see if it helps your problem.

[steppystep 0]

Thanks for the reply Kelmych! 

 

I had backed up several steps with MO but unfortunately the CTD seemed to show up shortly after the core fixes and before the quests were added. That starts to narrow it down to some pretty key pieces of the STEP process unfortunately. I'll play a bit and see if I can pinpoint it. However, with most of my options being CORE pieces, I'm wondering it it may actually be something with my rig outside of the STEP process as it would seem likely that others would have encountered this before.

Edited November 11, 2015 by steppystep

[Kelmych 5]

Other than the base UI mods you can usually disable mods at least temporarily.

[pt1f4b 6]

As i've already faced something like this, i solved my problem by adding these lines to the fallout.ini under section 

[General]

bUseThreadedAI=1

iNumHWThreads=2

 

Yep, i know, it was already in the guide   but it must have been late this day i dunno, but i missed it, and that solved my crash. Perhaps you forgot that too ?

 

Good luck in your research.