Black sky bug after installing full step guide with enb

[maramsp]

Hey all.

I did follow the full guide for skyrim, and it works great. But I do have a slight problem.

Sometimes my sky, even during the day, turns completely black. Sometimes the sun is still visible, sometimes not.

This problem happens most often when its snowing in skyrim. But when i force change the weather to some snow when the sky was just clear, then the sky dont turn black.

Skipping a few hours ingame solves the problem, and as well force changing the weather to blue sky fixes it too, but its still quite annoying to do every time, especially now that im in the winter season with seasons of skyrim installed too.

Have to admit that after the step guide i installed a lot of other mods, but i only installed the cathedral weathers and seasons for weather mods. I dont have any other mod installed that affects the weather. So, what could be the problem here?

 

Thanks in advance!

Cheers Mara

[maramsp]

quick little update!

I changed the weathers by following these weather codes:

https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Console_Commands_(Skyrim)/Weather#:~:text=Skyrim uses two console commands,%2C alternatively%3A sw and fw .&text=Artificially indefinite atmospheres can be,on any other weather type.

It seems that when i move to the ones that have fog included i get the black sky bug.

So it seems not snow related, but fog instead.

[z929669]

2 hours ago, maramsp said:

quick little update!

I changed the weathers by following these weather codes:

https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Console_Commands_(Skyrim)/Weather#:~:text=Skyrim uses two console commands,%2C alternatively%3A sw and fw .&text=Artificially indefinite atmospheres can be,on any other weather type.

It seems that when i move to the ones that have fog included i get the black sky bug.

So it seems not snow related, but fog instead.

It's likely one of the other mods you installed over the guide. Check for something that replaces sky meshes. Maybe some volumetric fog mod.

We only support the Step guide and associated mods, because that's what is in our dev installations. Additional mods add new variables into the mix.

[maramsp]

Another update.

Unfortunally the black sky bug is related to some weathers in the list mentioned above.

For exemple the 00105f40 – SkyrimDA02Weather is one that triggers the black sky. And it doesnt trigger the black sky if i have the cathedral weathers disabled, but...

I stick with having cathedral weathers installed, so i just change the weather to another foggy weather that doesnt have the black sky whenever the black sky occurs. Its a little thing to do, and i only might have to remember the code for more easier use.

In any case, if anyone still has a solution, then i would be very grateful if that solution is shared.

Cheers, Mara

[z929669]

It's very likely a mod that modifies a CW dependency or overrides a CW weather or image space record. I'll wager that if you disable all additional mods aside from those in the Step guide and test on a new game, you will not be able to reproduce your issue. Then at least you will know that it's an interaction/conflict with a mod you have added, which might help you to resolve the problem.

[maramsp]

16 hours ago, z929669 said:

It's very likely a mod that modifies a CW dependency or overrides a CW weather or image space record. I'll wager that if you disable all additional mods aside from those in the Step guide and test on a new game, you will not be able to reproduce your issue. Then at least you will know that it's an interaction/conflict with a mod you have added, which might help you to resolve the problem.

Ye most likely, but i still dont have any clue which it will be. And especially since its only some weathers that have fog. Only the weathers that have fog are affected, and also not every weather that have fog is affected too, so its very specific,

And since ive added a lot of mods after the initial step guide, and my game is very stable at the moment, ive decided to just change the weather myself. Most easy solution i think, cause its a matter of copy paste, since i have the code for the weather im gonna replace it with in a notepad.

But still though, maybe someone could have a look at my load order, although it's quite large. But maybe then someone can find the culprit?

https://pastebin.com/GwFKJjHX

Have to say though that in this load order azurite weathers III is active. But I switch between Azurite weathers and cathedral weathers before every game section.

Still cannot decide which one i want, but obviously with azurite weathers i know the 2 step patches (lightning and weather and post processing) will not work.

Nevertheless though, besides the 2 step patches and azurite weathers/cathedral weathers my load order remains the same every session.

Thanks in advance if someone wants to look it up for me, as i cannot find the culprit myself.

Cheers, Mara

[Guyjemm]

I just finished installing the modlist yesterday and have just encountered this same bug. I haven't installed any other mods though so maybe a mod in the modlist has been updated or something?

[Guyjemm]

After doing some testing I wonder if the Cathedral Weathers and Seasons Unofficial Update has anything to do with it? It has been updated since the most recent STEP modlist, I can't download an older version to test it out sadly.

[maramsp]

Same goes for me unfortunally without the unofficial update.

But what you can do, is just use the following console command when it happens:

fw 0010a232

This will instantly change the weather to a foggy one that doesnt have the black sky bug.

In any case, even without the step patch weather and lightning and withouth the step patch post processing, without cathedral weathers, but with the azurite weathers, still the black sky bug is there, most specifically with these specific weathers:

00105f40 – SkyrimDA02Weather - Cloudy sky with fog.
00105945 – SolitudeBluePalaceFog - Cloudy sky with fog.
00105944 – SolitudeBluePalaceFogNMARE = Cloudy sky with fog, reddish hue
00105943 – SolitudeBluePalaceFogFEAR - Cloudy sky with fog, green hue
00105942 – SolitudeBluePalaceFogARENA - Cloudy sky with fog. grey hue
000923fd – SovngardeFog   (this one feature a tiny bit of details in the sky though such as a few stars)
 

As you can see these are only foggy weathers, but the fw 0010a232 command gives a foggy weather too without the bug.

So, just stick with that i suppose. Its quite easy to do, and does work for me every single time.

[z929669]

7 hours ago, Guyjemm said:

After doing some testing I wonder if the Cathedral Weathers and Seasons Unofficial Update has anything to do with it? It has been updated since the most recent STEP modlist, I can't download an older version to test it out sadly.

 

4 hours ago, maramsp said:

Same goes for me unfortunally without the unofficial update.

But what you can do, is just use the following console command when it happens:

fw 0010a232

This will instantly change the weather to a foggy one that doesnt have the black sky bug.

In any case, even without the step patch weather and lightning and withouth the step patch post processing, without cathedral weathers, but with the azurite weathers, still the black sky bug is there, most specifically with these specific weathers:

00105f40 – SkyrimDA02Weather - Cloudy sky with fog.
00105945 – SolitudeBluePalaceFog - Cloudy sky with fog.
00105944 – SolitudeBluePalaceFogNMARE = Cloudy sky with fog, reddish hue
00105943 – SolitudeBluePalaceFogFEAR - Cloudy sky with fog, green hue
00105942 – SolitudeBluePalaceFogARENA - Cloudy sky with fog. grey hue
000923fd – SovngardeFog   (this one feature a tiny bit of details in the sky though such as a few stars)
 

As you can see these are only foggy weathers, but the fw 0010a232 command gives a foggy weather too without the bug.

So, just stick with that i suppose. Its quite easy to do, and does work for me every single time.

Try toggling sky via console ( ` ts `) off and back on again.

[maramsp]

19 hours ago, z929669 said:

 

Try toggling sky via console ( ` ts `) off and back on again.

that was one of the first things ive tried, to no avail unfortunally

[Fulgur]

Also having this issue with  a fresh install and no extra mods installed.

I've also tried rolling back the version of the unofficial CW patch to 2.57 and the issue is still present. 

I have narrowed the issue down to being something to do with the ENB preset (packaged with the Heavy file from the download link) as disabling the enb does clear the black sky issue. So playing around with the ENB settings (shift+enter) I've found that the issue is something to do with the Volumetric Fog. Ticking IgnoreWeatherSystem seems to resolve it and the fog is no longer completely black.

Would be interesting to know if this fixes it for others when they next have it happen. Hopefully it helps to narrow down the cause a bit too!

[Fulgur]

Correction to the above comment (can't edit yet since pending mod approval) whilst Ignore Weather System on does have some impact on blackness it's also the EnableMultipleWeathers setting thats causing the main issue. Disabling this under the Weather section in the enbseries.ini file or in the ingame menu for ENB does resolve the inky black sky completely.

[z929669]

@Greg Can you confirm this issue on your instance?

23 minutes ago, Fulgur said:

Correction to the above comment (can't edit yet since pending mod approval) whilst Ignore Weather System on does have some impact on blackness it's also the EnableMultipleWeathers setting thats causing the main issue. Disabling this under the Weather section in the enbseries.ini file or in the ingame menu for ENB does resolve the inky black sky completely.

You shouldn't set EnableMultipleWeathers=false, as that breaks much of what the ENB is doing. Best to set [VOLUMETRICFOG] IgnoreWeatherSystem=false ...once I have confirmation from others that this does resolve the issue (which is related to only certain foggy weathers). @maramsp Can you confirm this fix?

[Korrai]

7 hours ago, Fulgur said:

Also having this issue with  a fresh install and no extra mods installed.

I've also tried rolling back the version of the unofficial CW patch to 2.57 and the issue is still present. 

I have narrowed the issue down to being something to do with the ENB preset (packaged with the Heavy file from the download link) as disabling the enb does clear the black sky issue. So playing around with the ENB settings (shift+enter) I've found that the issue is something to do with the Volumetric Fog. Ticking IgnoreWeatherSystem seems to resolve it and the fog is no longer completely black.

Would be interesting to know if this fixes it for others when they next have it happen. Hopefully it helps to narrow down the cause a bit too!

Hey, have you tried it vanilla but with ENB active? I had this problem and a vanilla test run revealed I had goofed up by only installing some of the ENB files into Skyrim. You need all of them for everything to work. Sincere hopes you get it working!