DynDOLOD 3.00 Alpha 190

[Abbot]

  On 7/19/2021 at 11:29 AM, sheson said:

Check if a mod replaces
textures\dungeons\ships\shiproof01.dds
textures\dungeons\ships\shipwoodside01.dds
Use xEdit Asset Browser (CTRL+F3) to find all containers for a file including BSA.

Make sure TexGen generated stitched object LOD textures without errors. Especially
textures\lod\shiproof01lod.dds
textures\lod\shiplod.dds

Make sure nothing overwrites the output of TexGen.

Check if a mod overwrites the references or any of their base records of the (wall?)  pieces that seem to be missing or might have transparent LOD textures.

 

Permanently delete whatever "dyndolod glowing double windows fix attempt.esp" is.

Fix or permanently remove Blacksmith Chests.esp that has all the HITMEs errors.
HITME stands for HIgher Than Master Entry.
This message is printed by the internal xEdit error check.
The first two bytes of the internal FormID refer to a non existing index of the Master Files list on the File Header record for the plugin.
This means it can not be determined if the record is an overwrite (and which master plugin it belongs to) or if the record is added as a master record by the plugin itself.
This can happen when entries are forcible removed from the Master Files list for example.
In case the plugin is a the result of using a merge tool, it might be possible to fix it by loading and saving the plugin in CK or xEdit.
In most other cases the plugin is most likely broken beyond automatic repair.

DynDOLOD 2.x/3.x does not change how the engine or LOD works. Typically the game loads all full models first and then unloads object LOD. If memory is tight it is possible that the displaying of full models coming into view is delayed and they obviously fade in way after the fact.

 

If problem persists make a screenshot of the LOD for the cabin area.

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I checked everything and removed Blacksmith Chests.esp, but the problem is sadly not solved

Nothing overrides textures and they were correctly generated.

anomaly Anise Cabin.bmpFetching info...

[sheson]

  On 7/19/2021 at 6:02 PM, Abbot said:

I checked everything and removed Blacksmith Chests.esp, but the problem is sadly not solved

Nothing overrides textures and they were correctly generated.

anomaly Anise Cabin.bmp 895.13 kB · 3 downloads

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Use tfc to make a better screenshot of the full model and LOD cabin.

Have you checked if a plugin changes the references or the base records of the cabin?

[EazyH]

Thanks folks. Your settings are a bit different from the ones I found before that mentioned halving direct and ambient settings. I do typically adjust the RBG settings for top and bottom shadows, but that’s usually all I’ve had to do. Let me take a look at my most recent LOD, and if it’s too off, I’ll definitely be running it back with some of these settings

[EazyH]

  On 7/19/2021 at 3:29 PM, z929669 said:

Try following our WIP instructions for Grass LODGen settings. You need to modify RGB values in DynDOLOD_SSE.ini (see screens). All WIP LODGen settings are also out there:

https://stepmodifications.org/wiki/SkyrimSE:2.0.0#Grass_LOD_Configuration

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https://imgur.com/pi1EfFy

 

Used your settings and got this unfortunately

[z929669]

  On 7/20/2021 at 2:07 AM, EazyH said:

https://imgur.com/pi1EfFy

 

Used your settings and got this unfortunately

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Yeah, but our settings work nicely for Cathedral Landscapes. See sheson's post about grass textures/models in addition to modifying the RGB values for your needs (more red/green and less blue possibly to get a better match to the brown grasses).

Looks like you have dark green grass in foreground, brown in short distance (LOD4?) and then light green farther out (LOD8?). Play with your LOD level distance settings to help determine what's what. You can do this without regenerating LOD. Seems like you have some strange contrasts and possibly some conflicting grasses that are defined in parts of the same area.

You can also regen LOD using red 0.5 and blue/green = 0 to get an idea of the affected areas (LOD grass).

Also, if grass model object bounds are not set, you will not get LOD for those grasses. Check the grass plugins you are using. Possibly simplify your grass setup.

 

[EazyH]

  On 7/20/2021 at 3:37 AM, z929669 said:

Yeah, but our settings work nicely for Cathedral Landscapes. See sheson's post about grass textures/models in addition to modifying the RGB values for your needs (more red/green and less blue possibly to get a better match to the brown grasses).

Looks like you have dark green grass in foreground, brown in short distance (LOD4?) and then light green farther out (LOD8?). Play with your LOD level distance settings to help determine what's what. You can do this without regenerating LOD. Seems like you have some strange contrasts and possibly some conflicting grasses that are defined in parts of the same area.

You can also regen LOD using red 0.5 and blue/green = 0 to get an idea of the affected areas (LOD grass).

Also, if grass model object bounds are not set, you will not get LOD for those grasses. Check the grass plugins you are using. Possibly simplify your grass setup.

 

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I will take a look at the plug-in bounds once I get home. From what I understand from Sheson’s post, I should’ve been able to just run DynDOLOD and update atlas, but the results are not what was expected. The grass textures are still from cathedral brown grass, and with the Direct, Ambient, and ini settings recommended. I am using Wiz’s Enb for Obsidian, and the grass admittedly looks better when the enb is toggled off (but I think that’s because of how muted colors are without ENB) so not sure what’s going on. Only issue with the picture is I forgot to turn off LODGen terrain meshes/textures before going in game and those were built w/ green tundra installed. I believe that was ticked off when generating Grass with DynDOLOD though (I don’t think it matters, but I usually do just to be safe). Plan to do that at the end when I finalize the grass I’ll be using, since originally the plan was for brown, but since I was unable to get it right I haven’t put much time into tweaking the terrain LOD since it’s easy enough. I’m using no Northern Cathedral Landscapes but don’t believe it touches the tundra which is where I’ve been doing the testing.

 

it’s becoming a pattern where I get home after work and say “today will be the day, the day I finally play…“ Just for that to not be the case because I’m trying to get things perfect lol

Edited July 20, 2021 by EazyH

[Abbot]

  On 7/19/2021 at 7:37 PM, sheson said:

Use tfc to make a better screenshot of the full model and LOD cabin.

Have you checked if a plugin changes the references or the base records of the cabin?

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I checked the plugins and the only thing that seem to override parts of  the cabin structure is SMIM. Removing SMIM before generating DynDOLOD though doesn't change the outcome

I used tfc and running towards the Cabin in "tfc mode" restores the Cabin itself. But it disappears the more you move away from it. Like I said, I personally have the feeling that the Cabin's LOD has not been generated at all.

I apologize for the poor quality of the image but this damned website doesn't allow the upload of files bigger than 1 MB and I had to cut the screenshot.

I also would have liked to upload more than 1 image, but again, apparently I'm not allowed the upload of more than 1Mb of content 😒

tl;dr This image that I have uploaded is how the Cabin looks from the Guardian Stones. Again (in case I wasn't clear), if I try to get closer the Cabin, its walls re-appear out of thin air. But if I get further away, than the Cabin disappears completely. All of this while using the console command tfc.

1a.bmpFetching info...

Edited July 20, 2021 by Abbot

[z929669]

  On 7/20/2021 at 2:39 PM, Abbot said:

I apologize for the poor quality of the image but this damned website doesn't allow the upload of files bigger than 1 MB and I had to cut the screenshot.

I also would have liked to upload more than 1 image, but again, apparently I'm not allowed the upload of more than 1Mb of content 😒

tl;dr This image that I have uploaded is how the Cabin looks from the Guardian Stones. Again (in case I wasn't clear), if I try to get closer the Cabin, its walls re-appear out of thin air. But if I get further away, than the Cabin disappears completely. All of this while using the console command tfc.

1a.bmp 486.38 kB · 2 downloads

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There is an image format called a 'jpeg' or 'jpg' ... you are uploading 'bmp', which is much larger (as is 'png') use any image program to convert to jpg and watch the size dwindle. You can also possibly set your screen capture software to save in jpg format.

If you have several images, you can use a free service like ImageBox (or a plethora of others).

Why on Earth would you expect a ad-free website hosting free services to allow transient posters the ability to upload > 1 Mb? Disk space costs $. If you meet the posting threshold, you will get up to 2 Mb per post. Most forums (e.g., Nexus) have very limited post-upload capacity or don't allow uploads to posts at all.

Use More Informative Console to discover what plugin is providing the missing textures/models on that building.

[Abbot]

  On 7/20/2021 at 3:16 PM, z929669 said:

There is an image format called a 'jpeg' or 'jpg' ... you are uploading 'bmp', which is much larger (as is 'png') use any image program to convert to jpg and watch the size dwindle. You can also possibly set your screen capture software to save in jpg format.

If you have several images, you can use a free service like ImageBox (or a plethora of others).

Why on Earth would you expect a ad-free website hosting free services to allow transient posters the ability to upload > 1 Mb? Disk space costs $. If you meet the posting threshold, you will get up to 2 Mb per post. Most forums (e.g., Nexus) have very limited post-upload capacity or don't allow uploads to posts at all.

Use More Informative Console to discover what plugin is providing the missing textures/models on that building.

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Hello, thank you very much!

Sorry, I was not aware of the specifics of uploading files since I do not usually frequent forums online...

I'll try converting the images first...

Edited July 20, 2021 by Abbot

[Abbot]

 

  On 7/20/2021 at 3:39 PM, Abbot said:

Hello, thank you very much!

Sorry, I was not aware of the specifics of uploading files since I do not usually frequent forums online...

I'll try converting the images first...

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So here's the gallery's link: https://imgbox.com/gallery/edit/ZTob4SLnaA/z5nCjMLNYeLu6SOb

Edited July 20, 2021 by Abbot

[Abbot]

  On 7/20/2021 at 3:16 PM, z929669 said:

Use More Informative Console to discover what plugin is providing the missing textures/models on that building.

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Ah, and I use Mfg Console. I'm on LE

  On 7/19/2021 at 7:37 PM, sheson said:

Use tfc to make a better screenshot of the full model and LOD cabin.

Have you checked if a plugin changes the references or the base records of the cabin?

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Thanks to the kind z929669, I solved the issue with the images, here's the relevant gallery's link: https://imgbox.com/gallery/edit/ZTob4SLnaA/z5nCjMLNYeLu6SOb

Edited July 20, 2021 by Abbot

[z929669]

  On 7/20/2021 at 3:55 PM, Abbot said:

Ah, and I use Mfg Console. I'm on LE

Thanks to the kind z929669, I solved the issue with the images, here's the relevant gallery's link: https://imgbox.com/gallery/edit/ZTob4SLnaA/z5nCjMLNYeLu6SOb

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Your image links seem to be 'yours', so when we open them, we get this error:

You should have a gallery for each of the files you upload to ImageBox. Hovering on them, you will see a 'share' link. From there, you can click "full size" to get the code for the sharable links. Here is a "Gallery link" I have:

https://imgbox.com/g/va2ay91xP1

You can also use links for each image:

https://imgbox.com/nFbtL9Q8
https://imgbox.com/Ujqv2rHC
https://imgbox.com/53zsEeMZ
https://imgbox.com/stEinY75
https://imgbox.com/3gugbBFb
https://imgbox.com/ydUBzAqe
https://imgbox.com/3WK74EYC
https://imgbox.com/rav6jniC

... or BB code for posting on many forums.

NOTE: You will still want to save as jpg format so that they don't take forever to load from the service.

[Abbot]

  On 7/20/2021 at 4:06 PM, z929669 said:

Your image links seem to be 'yours', so when we open them, we get this error:

You should have a gallery for each of the files you upload to ImageBox. Hovering on them, you will see a 'share' link. From there, you can click "full size" to get the code for the sharable links. Here is a "Gallery link" I have:

https://imgbox.com/g/va2ay91xP1

You can also use links for each image:

https://imgbox.com/nFbtL9Q8
https://imgbox.com/Ujqv2rHC
https://imgbox.com/53zsEeMZ
https://imgbox.com/stEinY75
https://imgbox.com/3gugbBFb
https://imgbox.com/ydUBzAqe
https://imgbox.com/3WK74EYC
https://imgbox.com/rav6jniC

... or BB code for posting on many forums.

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How about this one: https://imgbox.com/g/E86TZX4INq ?

Or this: https://imgbox.com/2tJo780k ?

Edited July 20, 2021 by Abbot

[z929669]

  On 7/20/2021 at 4:19 PM, Abbot said:

How about this one: https://imgbox.com/g/E86TZX4INq ?

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Yes, the gallery link works

[sheson]

  On 7/20/2021 at 2:39 PM, Abbot said:

I checked the plugins and the only thing that seem to override parts of  the cabin structure is SMIM. Removing SMIM before generating DynDOLOD though doesn't change the outcome

I used tfc and running towards the Cabin in "tfc mode" restores the Cabin itself. But it disappears the more you move away from it. Like I said, I personally have the feeling that the Cabin's LOD has not been generated at all.

I apologize for the poor quality of the image but this damned website doesn't allow the upload of files bigger than 1 MB and I had to cut the screenshot.

I also would have liked to upload more than 1 image, but again, apparently I'm not allowed the upload of more than 1Mb of content 😒

tl;dr This image that I have uploaded is how the Cabin looks from the Guardian Stones. Again (in case I wasn't clear), if I try to get closer the Cabin, its walls re-appear out of thin air. But if I get further away, than the Cabin disappears completely. All of this while using the console command tfc.

1a.bmp 486.38 kB · 3 downloads

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If you use tfc to fly close, then LOD does not get replaced by the full model. It should be easy to make a close up screenshot of the LOD with TFC.

Check if what looks like scaffolding actually is static object LOD by disabling LOD with tll in console. If the wooden beams remain it means they might dynamic LOD or just full models.
In either case they should have reference form ids. In case they do and they are in a DynDOLOD login, look up the form IDs in xEdit. The reference have an EditiorID that typically starts with pluginname_formid.

If they have static object LOD that goes away with tll, then check what mods overwrite DynDOLOD Resources.

This almost looks like there is mod that replaces the cabin with different stages of rebuilding it.