DynDOLOD 3.00 Alpha 169

[kelvineppolon]

14 hours ago, sheson said:

DynDOLOD is a modified xLODGen, which is a tool mode of xEdit. DynDOLOD supports plugins version 1.71, because the current xEdit Experimental version supports it. 

Checking Serpents_Covenant_Merged.esp with xEdit reports no errors. I can view FExxx42D fine and the enable parent FExxx1DD SCHorseRuinedMarker shows correctly as well.

I have no errors with just Serpents_Covenant_Merged.esp in the load order and generating LOD with DynDOLOD 3 Alpha 167.
Are any other (patch) plugins overwriting any of these records in your load order?

In particular mySerpentsPatch.esp which is not 1.71?

if that is not it, test if it works when leaving IgnoreLargeReferences=0 at its default setting.

Thank you for the reply.
I downloaded SSEEDIT 4.1.5c (Nexus SSEEDIT is 4.1.5 and does not support header 1.71), and checked "mySerpentsPatch.esp".
"mySerpentsPatch.esp" is my custom patch to forwards EditorIDs of the Worldspace cell. There are no other edits.
Screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/Y3CFnAB

I will revert to "IgnoreLargeReferences=0" and let you know the results.

[kelvineppolon]

1 hour ago, kelvineppolon said:

Thank you for the reply.
I downloaded SSEEDIT 4.1.5c (Nexus SSEEDIT is 4.1.5 and does not support header 1.71), and checked "mySerpentsPatch.esp".
"mySerpentsPatch.esp" is my custom patch to forwards EditorIDs of the Worldspace cell. There are no other edits.
Screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/Y3CFnAB

I will revert to "IgnoreLargeReferences=0" and let you know the results.

Even though "uLargeRefLODGridSize=5" in my "SkyrimPrefs.ini", reverting to "IgnoreLargeReferences=0" as you suggested solved the DynDOLOD problem.
Thank you for your suggestion
 

[sheson]

56 minutes ago, kelvineppolon said:

Even though "uLargeRefLODGridSize=5" in my "SkyrimPrefs.ini", reverting to "IgnoreLargeReferences=0" as you suggested solved the DynDOLOD problem.
Thank you for your suggestion

This should hopefully be fixed in the next Alpha version.

[Dennisb11234]

Hello Sheson, sadly the reading of the support Forum does not help me in this case. Ive never had this Kind of Issues. Ive got only this Bug Report. Honestly i dont know what to do...    here are the reports. https://uploadnow.io/f/BNMDykF

 

 

 

[sheson]

18 minutes ago, Dennisb11234 said:

Hello Sheson, sadly the reading of the support Forum does not help me in this case. Ive never had this Kind of Issues. Ive got only this Bug Report. Honestly i dont know what to do...    here are the reports. https://uploadnow.io/f/BNMDykF

You uploaded the entire debug log and bugreport.txt as requested. Nothing else was requested to be done or needed to be done.

Check what happens with this test version https://mega.nz/file/tAxwTSJb#8P8S-GaTjus-TT1NrJ_NOWnIOX5od4dLnUzvjuIQBZ8

Delete old bugreport.txt and all files in the logs folder. Upload new log, debug log and bugreport.txt if there is still a problem.

[PRieST]

@sheson
Have you seen this mod/issue on nexus? Is this something you're aware of, if this really is a thing?
Missing Windmill Fix

I had this issue in the past a few times while I was testing my DynDOLOD generation via COC from main menu and so the windmills were missing.
If the game is started normally or DynDOLOD gets updated/made from scratch in an ongoing save (clean save method) I think this never happened.

I don't know if my logs would help in this case, because I don't have this issue on my end right now - just wanted to inform you about the 'mod'.

[Jonado]

I am getting some weird LOD issues in Solitude. First, I get a duplicate rotor for the Solitude windmill, like in the screenshots. This only happens in winter, where I am using a custom mesh for the windmill, which is based on the mesh from RedBag's Solitude, but with quite heavy modifications (it is not the same as you will find on the mod page of its reference). During autumn, I am using a retexture of the original mesh, and that works fine.

Another issue I think is related to Open Cities. RedBag's Solitude has quite a few statics that are only placed in the Solitude worldspace, but they are marked as persistent, so they show up just fine in the Tamriel worldspace. However, they don't get LOD, despite checking the High rules for child-to-parent worldspace LOD inheritance. Is that functionality disabled entirely with Open Cities? If so, I think you should include some exceptions.

Similarly, the museum building from Legacy of the Dragonborn (0B8D4B2F) is not showing up on the map. That object does not have any correspondence in the Tamriel worldspace, either. It is getting LOD, but I think that may be because I am selecting "Upgrade near grid to far grid" for large references.

Another weird issue is that Erikur's House (00090E57 or 0008E2C9; the second one is the OCS reference) is not getting any LOD at all. Other instances (from RedBag's Solitude) are getting LOD, so I don't understand what is going on here.

Here is a link to the logs (not sure why the debug log ended up so large): https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ef90b9t3zloufid6620xn/Logs.7z?rlkey=nnt7uh9ohtanmkzlqktnsttdx&dl=0

Edited March 4 by Jonado

[sheson]

10 hours ago, PRieST said:

@sheson
Have you seen this mod/issue on nexus? Is this something you're aware of, if this really is a thing?
Missing Windmill Fix

I had this issue in the past a few times while I was testing my DynDOLOD generation via COC from main menu and so the windmills were missing.
If the game is started normally or DynDOLOD gets updated/made from scratch in an ongoing save (clean save method) I think this never happened.

I don't know if my logs would help in this case, because I don't have this issue on my end right now - just wanted to inform you about the 'mod'.

Users participating in the alpha test and using the experimental workarounds that do not report any issues to the DynDOLOD support forum do not meet the requirements to use DynDOLOD. They might as well yell at clouds. They are wasting time, resources and hinder actual bug fixing and improvement for everybody else.

The first post and https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum and https://dyndolod.info/Help/Large-Reference-Bugs-Workarounds#Testing explain what information and logs to provide when making posts.

IIRC only one report was made here over half a year ago and requests for logs and questions were ignored.
Based on that, it is assumed that there is no issue with the current versions of everything until new reports are posted here.

[sheson]

9 hours ago, Jonado said:

I am getting some weird LOD issues in Solitude. First, I get a duplicate rotor for the Solitude windmill, like in the screenshots. This only happens in winter, where I am using a custom mesh for the windmill, which is based on the mesh from RedBag's Solitude, but with quite heavy modifications (it is not the same as you will find on the mod page of its reference). During autumn, I am using a retexture of the original mesh, and that works fine.

Another issue I think is related to Open Cities. RedBag's Solitude has quite a few statics that are only placed in the Solitude worldspace, but they are marked as persistent, so they show up just fine in the Tamriel worldspace. However, they don't get LOD, despite checking the High rules for child-to-parent worldspace LOD inheritance. Is that functionality disabled entirely with Open Cities? If so, I think you should include some exceptions.

Similarly, the museum building from Legacy of the Dragonborn (0B8D4B2F) is not showing up on the map. That object does not have any correspondence in the Tamriel worldspace, either. It is getting LOD, but I think that may be because I am selecting "Upgrade near grid to far grid" for large references.

Another weird issue is that Erikur's House (00090E57 or 0008E2C9; the second one is the OCS reference) is not getting any LOD at all. Other instances (from RedBag's Solitude) are getting LOD, so I don't understand what is going on here.

Here is a link to the logs (not sure why the debug log ended up so large): https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ef90b9t3zloufid6620xn/Logs.7z?rlkey=nnt7uh9ohtanmkzlqktnsttdx&dl=0

Provide/Upload the mod that swaps the Solitude windmill for the winter season. I'll need to expand the feature that hides the fan to work for seasons.

https://dyndolod.info/Help/Child-Parent-Worldspace-Copies#Individual-Child-Worldspace-Configuration
NoScanIfPluginExists - do not do anything if one of the listed plugins exists regardless of any other settings.
DynDOLOD_SSE_childworld_SolitudeWorld.ini
NoScanIfPluginExists=Open Cities Skyrim.esp,SR Exterior Cities.esp,Exterior Cities Solitude SR.esp, Alternate Skyrim.esp
If a child worldspace is ignored, any neverfades (IsFullLOD + Persistent) in it should not be modified by any DynDOLOD plugin and continue to work as is. No form ID or screenshot was provided.

0B8D4B2F is a STAT base record. LOD is generated for references. LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm adds xx757080 as a neverfade to Solitude. If scanning of childworlds is disabled, then it continues to work as is. It does not show on the map because without child worldspace scanning there is no reference in the parent worldspace for which static object LOD is being generated.

00090E57 is in a child worldspace and irrelevant in this context. 0008E2C9 is "deleted" by a DynDOLOD patch for  LegacyoftheDragonborn, because LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm adds a new reference xx13DD6B with the full model which then normally should have LOD but somehow forgot to "delete" the reference 0008E2C9 that adds the vanilla LOD model. You probably have a patch that removes or deletes the new reference xx13DD6B in LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm. Report which plugin(s) overwrite it.

[Jonado]

16 hours ago, sheson said:

Provide/Upload the mod that swaps the Solitude windmill for the winter season. I'll need to expand the feature that hides the fan to work for seasons.

https://dyndolod.info/Help/Child-Parent-Worldspace-Copies#Individual-Child-Worldspace-Configuration
NoScanIfPluginExists - do not do anything if one of the listed plugins exists regardless of any other settings.
DynDOLOD_SSE_childworld_SolitudeWorld.ini
NoScanIfPluginExists=Open Cities Skyrim.esp,SR Exterior Cities.esp,Exterior Cities Solitude SR.esp, Alternate Skyrim.esp
If a child worldspace is ignored, any neverfades (IsFullLOD + Persistent) in it should not be modified by any DynDOLOD plugin and continue to work as is. No form ID or screenshot was provided.

0B8D4B2F is a STAT base record. LOD is generated for references. LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm adds xx757080 as a neverfade to Solitude. If scanning of childworlds is disabled, then it continues to work as is. It does not show on the map because without child worldspace scanning there is no reference in the parent worldspace for which static object LOD is being generated.

00090E57 is in a child worldspace and irrelevant in this context. 0008E2C9 is "deleted" by a DynDOLOD patch for  LegacyoftheDragonborn, because LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm adds a new reference xx13DD6B with the full model which then normally should have LOD but somehow forgot to "delete" the reference 0008E2C9 that adds the vanilla LOD model. You probably have a patch that removes or deletes the new reference xx13DD6B in LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm. Report which plugin(s) overwrite it.

As I said, the windmill model is partly my own work and currently not published anywhere. It contains features from RedBag's Solitude, Simplicity of Seasons, Seasonal Landscapes, possibly USSEP, and a lot of bug fixes with Simplicity of Season's model that I have fixed myself. I plan to publish it along with a lot of other related stuff later this year, so I would still appreciate if you could take a look. You can find it here: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/jqdd087n8b6dr6f73efev/swindmillsnow.nif?rlkey=8esdakkj3abcfyvdhhb105c5y&dl=0. Or is it possible for me to fix it myself by e.g. reordering the blocks?

xx13DD6B is disabled by OCS + LOTD5 Patch.esp, which is provided at the Open Cities mod page at AFKMods.

I thought the missing LOD objects were due to Open Cities, but could it be resolved? Not seeing the museum building on the map is an eyesore, so I would appreciate if you could create a custom rule for it. There is an instance of the museum building in the Tamriel worldspace, but it is disabled and that is not changed in the Open Cities patch. For RedBag's Solitude, I could provide a list of the affected references if you are willing to look into it. Otherwise I could just create a patch myself that copies the relevant objects to the Tamriel worldspace.

[sheson]

6 hours ago, Jonado said:

As I said, the windmill model is partly my own work and currently not published anywhere. It contains features from RedBag's Solitude, Simplicity of Seasons, Seasonal Landscapes, possibly USSEP, and a lot of bug fixes with Simplicity of Season's model that I have fixed myself. I plan to publish it along with a lot of other related stuff later this year, so I would still appreciate if you could take a look. You can find it here: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/jqdd087n8b6dr6f73efev/swindmillsnow.nif?rlkey=8esdakkj3abcfyvdhhb105c5y&dl=0. Or is it possible for me to fix it myself by e.g. reordering the blocks?

xx13DD6B is disabled by OCS + LOTD5 Patch.esp, which is provided at the Open Cities mod page at AFKMods.

I thought the missing LOD objects were due to Open Cities, but could it be resolved? Not seeing the museum building on the map is an eyesore, so I would appreciate if you could create a custom rule for it. There is an instance of the museum building in the Tamriel worldspace, but it is disabled and that is not changed in the Open Cities patch. For RedBag's Solitude, I could provide a list of the affected references if you are willing to look into it. Otherwise I could just create a patch myself that copies the relevant objects to the Tamriel worldspace.

The swindmill model is most likely fine as is. I will probably need a couple days to properly look at this and update the function for seasons.

Remove G:\DynDOLOD\Edit Scripts\DynDOLOD\Rules\DynDOLOD_SSE_ocslotd5patchesp.ini and reload the rules or remove its one rule manually so the vanilla Erikur 0008E2C9 has LOD. The rule seems outdated it will be removed from the next alpha version.

For now I suggest to make a patch for the museum. If you want to use the disabled reference xx76B865 to show on the map, it should not be initially disabled, not have an enable parent and you need to manually remove the reference rule added by G:\DynDOLOD\Edit Scripts\DynDOLOD\Rules\DynDOLOD_SSE_legacyofthedragonbornv5esm_High.ini for it.

In a future update it might still check for neverfades in child worldspaces that use the SkyCell of the parent.

[MarkAim]

I'm having an issue with a mod named Capital Of Whiterun Expansion have it comboed with JK Whiterun Outskirts. When I have Dyndolod enabled for some reason I'm having a building disappears and then reappear when I get really close. Also some times buildings have a white texture when from a far distance. This never happens with Dyndolod disabled tested it on a fresh save. Also been having a weird issue recently for some reason when trying to save and zip Dyndolod it get an error when trying to unpack it MO2. But it works fine when I zip it myself instead.

Also linked some picture of the weird texture and the building that reappears only when close 

DynDOLOD_SSE_log.txt https://ufile.io/zagt3uu5 

DynDOLOD_SSE_Debug_log.txt  https://ufile.io/br3ddr71

 

 

Edited March 9 by MarkAim

[sheson]

1 hour ago, MarkAim said:

I'm having an issue with a mod named Capital Of Whiterun Expansion have it comboed with JK Whiterun Outskirts. When I have Dyndolod enabled for some reason I'm having a building disappears and then reappear when I get really close. Also some times buildings have a white texture when from a far distance. This never happens with Dyndolod disabled tested it on a fresh save. Also been having a weird issue recently for some reason when trying to save and zip Dyndolod it get an error when trying to unpack it MO2. But it works fine when I zip it myself instead.

Also linked some picture of the weird texture and the building that reappears only when close 

DynDOLOD_SSE_log.txt https://ufile.io/zagt3uu5 

DynDOLOD_SSE_Debug_log.txt  https://ufile.io/br3ddr71

 

 

It is unclear which screenshot relates to which problem. If you want to report a problem with LOD, also make a close up screenshot of LOD using tfc and check if it is actually static object LOD or dynamic LOD. https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#In-Game-Screenshots

See https://dyndolod.info/FAQ#Full-models-disappearing-going-in-and-out-of-view

DynDOLOD uses 7zip to create the zip archives. You have verified that it can be unpacked. Report problems of third party programs to the developers of the third party programs.

[MarkAim]

42 minutes ago, sheson said:

It is unclear which screenshot relates to which problem. If you want to report a problem with LOD, also make a close up screenshot of LOD using tfc and check if it is actually static object LOD or dynamic LOD. https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#In-Game-Screenshots

See https://dyndolod.info/FAQ#Full-models-disappearing-going-in-and-out-of-view

DynDOLOD uses 7zip to create the zip archives. You have verified that it can be unpacked. Report problems of third party programs to the developers of the third party programs.

Hope I'm doing it right this time The first screenshot is the one that has a weird white texture when far away when I get close it fixes itself.

Image two is the one for some reason with Dyndolod enabled it reappers but only when I'm close to. It randomly pops in basically 

[sheson]

36 minutes ago, MarkAim said:

Hope I'm doing it right this time The first screenshot is the one that has a weird white texture when far away when I get close it fixes itself.

Make a close-up screenshot of the far away object by  opening console, typing tfc and then flying to the object. If it still can be clicked and has a form id, then it may still be the full model with the same reference or a dynamic LOD model with a reference added by a DynDOLOD plugin. If it can not not be clicked and goes away when typing tll in console it is static object LOD. Upload a close-up screenshot and report what it is. Also see https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#In-Game-Screenshots

36 minutes ago, MarkAim said:

Image two is the one for some reason with Dyndolod enabled it reappers but only when I'm close to. It randomly pops in basically 

"Close" meaning, it has no LOD? If you type tll in console all static terrain, object and tree LOD is disabled and only the 5x5 active cells (the square that still shows terrain/ground), large references and neverfades remain in the LOD area. Is the full model always visible inside the 5x5 active cells uGrids but maybe has no LOD? Also see https://dyndolod.info/How-LOD-Works

Upload H:\Modding Tools\DynDOLOD\Edit Scripts\Export\LODGen_SSE_Export_Tamriel.txt