xbk123 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Lod unloading problems (Base ID 1E00E63C, Ref AB092C73) Campfire Spoiler Campfire after typing `disable` in console Spoiler Im using ACMOS default settings. I dont have any of `uLockedObjectMapLOD=32 or uLockedTerrainLOD=32` in my game ini files. Tried putting it there with number 16 but no change. I was using ACOMS and DynDOLOD for years and never had problem like that. Im using diverse campfires BOS, can this be a culprit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheson Posted February 11 Author Share Posted February 11 48 minutes ago, xbk123 said: Lod unloading problems (Base ID 1E00E63C, Ref AB092C73) Campfire Hide contents Campfire after typing `disable` in console Hide contents Im using ACMOS default settings. I dont have any of `uLockedObjectMapLOD=32 or uLockedTerrainLOD=32` in my game ini files. Tried putting it there with number 16 but no change. I was using ACOMS and DynDOLOD for years and never had problem like that. Im using diverse campfires BOS, can this be a culprit? Read the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs which DynDOLOD log and debug log to upload when making posts. Read https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#In-Game-Screenshots how to make useful screenshots of references with more informative console. The mentioned INI settings have no effect on references. They only have (wanted/unwanted) effects on object/terrain LOD. See https://dyndolod.info/FAQ#Out-of-place-or-floating-objects, especially test with new game and report if that makes a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farsveinn Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Hi, I didn't find an answer in the FAQ. With the latest updates of the program there is a strong flickering of dyndolod waterfalls. It is not RWT, I used DynDOLOD - Resources - the effect is the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arimati Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Quote That is is great. It would be nice if you could upload the plugin with the record with the problem as requested. Sure, here you go. Deleted the records where I was 100% sure. The initial error message with the dyndlod test version was: "Overflow while converting variant of type (Cardinal) into type (Integer) Parent Worldspace F3015B98 Rally + CFTO + ICWO + Sounds.esp [NAVM:7A019B89] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of RHFinalGreenCave [CELL:7A015B9D] (in RHFinalWorld "Level 10" [WRLD:7A015B98] at -2,-1))" Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheson Posted February 11 Author Share Posted February 11 15 minutes ago, Farsveinn said: Hi, I didn't find an answer in the FAQ. With the latest updates of the program there is a strong flickering of dyndolod waterfalls. It is not RWT, I used DynDOLOD - Resources - the effect is the same Read the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs which DynDOLOD log and debug log to upload when making posts. Also upload ..\DynDOLOD\Logs\DynDOLOD_SSE_Object_Report.txt Read https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#In-Game-Screenshots how to make useful screenshots of LOD and the full model with m ore informative console. https://dyndolod.info/Mods/Waterfalls For best visuals and performance typically do not install any 3rd party LOD resources - remove them if necessary. It is possible that whatever mod use to change the waterfalls meshes also installed bad LOD meshes or requires updated LOD meshes to be included in DynDOLOD Resources. You wrote it is not RWT. So which one is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farsveinn Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 DynDOLOD_SSE_Object_Report and DynDOLOD_SSE_Debug_log Oh, sorry, I meant that I checked with and without RWT. I did everything as usual RWT + Water Effects Brightness and Reflection Fix - RWT Patch. Before the NG version I never had problems with waterfalls. I tried leaving only your resources, disabling RWT, but the result was exactly the same. All waterfalls flickering in the middle and far distance. No ENB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kojak747 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 (edited) On 2/4/2024 at 5:23 PM, sheson said: Read the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs which DynDOLOD log and debug log and which LODGen log to upload. See https://dyndolod.info/Changelog to learn what changed. https://dyndolod.info/Help/Advanced-Mode#Grass-LOD Density sets the percentage of grass LOD billboards that are being generated. 50 means only half of the grass placements are added for better performance but thinner grass LOD in the distance. 50 means 50%. It was my grass settings, they were incorrect - I ran my grass cache with the suggested settings from STEP GrassLOD Cache and it resolved everything and DynDOLOD grass LOD density is working correctly. Managed to gain a few FPS also Thanks Edited February 11 by kojak747 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheson Posted February 11 Author Share Posted February 11 1 hour ago, Farsveinn said: DynDOLOD_SSE_Object_Report and DynDOLOD_SSE_Debug_log Oh, sorry, I meant that I checked with and without RWT. I did everything as usual RWT + Water Effects Brightness and Reflection Fix - RWT Patch. Before the NG version I never had problems with waterfalls. I tried leaving only your resources, disabling RWT, but the result was exactly the same. All waterfalls flickering in the middle and far distance. No ENB. Also upload the normal DynDOLOD debug log as explained in the first post and https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs Also make a useful screenshot of the full model for the waterfall as explained in https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#In-Game-Screenshots. Which mod is Meshes\effects\fxwaterfallbodytall02.nif from? Its CRC32 in the files you provided does not match what I have for Water Effects Brightness and Reflection Fix - Realistic Water Two Patch 2.1 Does the flicker stop when you deactivate dynamic LOD in the DynDOLOD SkyUI MCM. Does a non animated static waterfall remain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farsveinn Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) logs "Which mod is Meshes\effects\fxwaterfallbodytall02.nif from? Its CRC32 in the files you provided does not match what I have for Water Effects Brightness and Reflection Fix - Realistic Water Two Patch 2.1" It was RWT without Water Effects Brightness and Reflection Fix - Realistic Water Two Patch 2.1. Yes, there's flickering in both cases. Now I generated everything without RWT, the problem is definitely in the static waterfall lod, I only used DynDOLOD - Resources. In the screenshot above 1 - flickering, 2 - full model, 3 - I disable DynDOLOD model and the flickering came back. The problem is definitely the static lod waterfall and it flickers at medium and long distance. I used the default DynDOLOD settings. There is only a problem with the "tall" static lods of the waterfalls, in Riverwood it's ok. There is also flickering of some rocks, but it is not critical. Edited February 13 by Farsveinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheson Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, Farsveinn said: logs "Which mod is Meshes\effects\fxwaterfallbodytall02.nif from? Its CRC32 in the files you provided does not match what I have for Water Effects Brightness and Reflection Fix - Realistic Water Two Patch 2.1" It was RWT without Water Effects Brightness and Reflection Fix - Realistic Water Two Patch 2.1. Yes, there's flickering in both cases. Now I generated everything without RWT, the problem is definitely in the static waterfall lod, I only used DynDOLOD - Resources. In the screenshot above 1 - flickering, 2 - full model, 3 - I disable DynDOLOD model and the flickering came back. The problem is definitely the static lod waterfall and it flickers at medium and long distance. I used the default DynDOLOD settings. There is only a problem with the "tall" static lods of the waterfalls, in Riverwood it's ok. There is also flickering of some rocks, but it is not critical. Please also upload C:\Modding\Skyrim Special Edition - Elegy\Tools\DynDOLOD\Logs\DynDOLOD_SSE_Object_Report.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farsveinn Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 https://drive.google.com/file/d/14IcQEirKc6B9pQo8A_h-o6APLwGDBZE-/view?usp=sharing Oh, I'm really dumb, here's the log.. I also double-checked it again. Yes, in the far distance, the dynamic lodes of waterfalls are turned off and the flickering is very visible, on average they turn on and overlap the flickering static lodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheson Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 1 minute ago, Farsveinn said: https://drive.google.com/file/d/14IcQEirKc6B9pQo8A_h-o6APLwGDBZE-/view?usp=sharing Oh, I'm really dumb, here's the log.. I also double-checked it again. Yes, in the far distance, the dynamic lodes of waterfalls are turned off and the flickering is very visible, on average they turn on and overlap the flickering static lodes. Thanks. i will have a look at it in the combing couple days. To verify, if you disable static object LOD so that only the animated dynamic LOD waterfalls remains, they do not flicker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farsveinn Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Yeah, that's right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikonomov Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 On 2/6/2024 at 12:44 PM, sheson said: Read the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs which DynDOLOD log and debug log to upload when making posts. Read https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#In-Game-Screenshots how to make useful screenshots with more informative console. The cover should be dynamic LOD and thus be a clickable reference. Double check if the LOD comes back after visiting the full cell. It was my mistake. I think it was caused by running the generation two times for Open Cities Skyrim, not knowing that it is not needed anymore with newer DynDOLOD versions. I discovered other issues as well before I found the new instructions page for OCS. Everything seems to work as flawless as it ever has. Thank you sheson for everything that you do for our favorite games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikonomov Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) On 2/6/2024 at 12:44 PM, sheson said: Read the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs which DynDOLOD log and debug log to upload when making posts. Read https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#In-Game-Screenshots how to make useful screenshots with more informative console. The cover should be dynamic LOD and thus be a clickable reference. Double check if the LOD comes back after visiting the full cell. I need to correct myself again. The issue seems to persist even after starting a completely new game with a newly (and I hope correctly) generated DynDOLOD. Logs screenshot location screenshot Edit: Seems to not be isolated to just this Dragon Mount, the one at Kynesgrove also shows unopened in the DynDOLOD, but opened when the cell loads. Tried re-visiting those locations to reload the cells and there is no change. Edited February 15 by ikonomov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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