CorneliusC Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 hello i'm in the last leg of installing the LE guide, and LOOT places the lanterns of skyrim esm after hearthfires esm and before dragonborn esm and the unofficial skyrim legendary edition patch. that doesn't seem to be right at all? LOOT also suggests a third party dawnguard patch. any suggestions? should i create a LOOT rule for the placement of lanterns esm? thanks in advance ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z929669 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 That seems wrong to me. I haven't run LE for years though, so it may be fine. They are all ESM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 If you are using the Sort button in Mod Organizer, install and run the latest version of LOOT to see if it sorts correctly. I agree this is very strange. I've never seen LOOT sort plugins between the vanilla masters before. Just to cover all bases, you're using this as the argument to LOOT right? --game="Skyrim" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorneliusC Posted June 16, 2022 Author Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) thank you both Greg, yes, the argument was missing, i remember adding it, but seem to have missed to 'apply' it. new sorting with the added argument didn't change the load order though. i am attaching my current load order. i am now just before step 5 in the guide (LOD) and skyrim loads fine with a new game into the alternate start cell thank you for any further comments you have on this ... Spoiler # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm UnlimitedBookshelves.esp SimpleChildren.esp WM Flora Fixes.esp FarmhouseChimneys.esp HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp BetterQuestObjectives.esp FISS.esp SkyUI.esp STEP DLC Optimized Textures - Standard.esp STEP Vanilla Optimized Textures - Standard.esp Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp XPMSE.esp RelightingSkyrim_Legendary.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp Luminosity Lighting Overhaul.esp Book Covers Skyrim.esp Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp Better Dynamic Ash.esp Realistic Boat Bobbing.esp DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp Dual Sheath Redux.esp SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp Footprints.esp ClavicusArgonianMasque.esp RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted.esp ORM-Arvak.esp Better Dynamic Snow.esp BlendedRoads.esp BWS.esp DragonShoutVoice.esp AI Overhaul.esp hearthfireextended.esp Point The Way.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp WetandCold.esp AOS.esp DeadlySpellImpacts.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main LITE.esp IHSS.esp Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp ADS.esp Beards.esp Brows.esp NB-Scars.esp VWA_VanillaWarpaintsAbsolution.esp WSCO - OcciFemaleVNL.esp Hunters Not Bandits.esp Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp Thieves Guild Requirements.esp Oblivion Gates v3 - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp TheChoiceIsYours.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp Run For Your Lives.esp Bring Out Your Dead - Legendary Edition.esp Elemental_Staffs.esp SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp TradeBarter.esp Helarchen Creek.esp TimingIsEverything.esp Butterflies Unchained.esp Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library.esp SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp FacegenForKids.esp Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp DSAMG - Greybeard Fix.esp DSAMG - Miraak Music Fixes.esp TavernAIFix.esp Dead Body Collision.esp DD_Dawnguard Additions.esp DD_Dragonborn Additions.esp Disease Descriptions.esp GoOnAhead.esp NonEssentialChildren.esp SMDropLitTorch.esp Torches Ignite Oil - Shock Edition.esp Traps Make Noise.esp Blacksmith Chests.esp EmbersHD.esp ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp PilgrimsDelight.esp Smelter_Riften & Solitude.esp The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp RBB - Realistic Water Two.esp ESFCompanions.esp NotSoFast-MageGuild.esp Lock Overhaul.esp Stealth Skills Rebalanced_COMPLETE.esp imp_helm_legend.esp Weapons & Armor_DragonPriestMasks.esp Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp iHUD.esp Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp AHZmoreHUD.esp RaceMenu.esp ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp FarmhouseChimneysCRF.esp Gildergreen Regrown.esp FarmhouseChimneysHelarchenCreek.esp mintylightningmod.esp Vivid Weathers.esp WetandCold - Ashes.esp Vivid Weathers - Extended Snow.esp WondersofWeather.esp FNIS.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Step SkyrimLE - CR Patch.esp FarmhouseChimneysLAL.esp Step SkyrimLE - L&W Patch.esp Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp loadorder.txt Edited June 16, 2022 by Cornelius2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorneliusC Posted June 16, 2022 Author Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) Addendum: In the current LOOT (0.18.3) masterlist there is a 'load after Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm' rule for the Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch, which seems to explain the odd placement of both plugins Still unsure how to proceed, given the other oddities in my load order Edited June 16, 2022 by Cornelius2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mousetick Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 What are the other oddities in your load order and what is bothering you exactly? If Dragonborn.esm is not a master of LoS and if there are no conflicts between them (likely if LoS doesn't cover Solstheim), then they can go in any order relative to each other. There must be very good reasons for LOOT to sort LoS before USLEEP. Hypothesis: LoS would otherwise overwrite USLEEP and forward bad vanilla bugs that are fixed by USLEEP. There are no 3rd-party bugfix or USLEEP-compatibility patches available for LoS because it's no longer supported and it has closed permissions. So the only option is to load USLEEP after LoS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorneliusC Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) Thank you for the comment, Mousetick The feeling of 'odd' comes from comparing this latest installation to me last installing Skyrim & STEP five years ago Now i followed LOOT's suggestions, except for cleaning 'Guard Dialogue Overhaul' and 'Complete Crafting Overhaul'. Last night i generated all LOD, started a new game, which seemed to start out fine from 'Alternate Start' into the wilderness, aside from a strange audio bug when outside, like feet continuously moving in place, which didn't relate to my own movement. Still need to check MCM settings and all my surroundings also Edited June 17, 2022 by Cornelius2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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