sheson Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 Sorry, didn't expect you to reply so fast. Here is part of the log, the file is too large to paste the entire thing. It appears some of the trees from EVT have 3D LOD and some don't, I'm just not sure why, I thought EVT included 3D LOD for all models of trees that come with it. https://pastebin.com/7eLC780SOK, so indeed the log already shows and answers your question why some trees do not have 3D LOD models. If a 3D LOD model is not found the billboard or full model is used as fallback depending on the fallback setting. The log shows the expected file name for the 3D LOD model 3D LOD not found srg_treepineforest02_5C16FEAC> fallback Billboard You need to install or create the 3D LOD model.If you use the Skyrim version of EVT in Skyrim Special Edition, do not convert/change the full models, only the ESP. Make sure to install files from the billboard generator with the exact same options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samphaa7 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 OK, so indeed the log already shows and answers your question why some trees do not have 3D LOD models. If a 3D LOD model is not found the billboard or full model is used as fallback depending on the fallback setting. The log shows the expected file name for the 3D LOD model 3D LOD not found <srg_treepineforest02_5C16FEAC> fallback Billboard You need to install or create the 3D LOD model.If you use the Skyrim version of EVT in Skyrim Special Edition, do not convert/change the full models, only the ESP. Make sure to install files from the billboard generator with the exact same options.I'll have another go when I get home from work. I'm pretty sure when I installed the mods I selected Lush trees in the Main installer and normal trees in the billboards, as the normal billboards seemed to match up better when using just 2D instead of 3D, this may be where the problem lies. I am indeed using the LE version of EVT in SE. Can I get away with simply saving the mod in the CK to convert it to Form 44, or should I Copy the models from LE EVT into the SE folder and then install? Thanks again for the help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheson Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 I'll have another go when I get home from work. I'm pretty sure when I installed the mods I selected Lush trees in the Main installer and normal trees in the billboards, as the normal billboards seemed to match up better when using just 2D instead of 3D, this may be where the problem lies. I am indeed using the LE version of EVT in SE. Can I get away with simply saving the mod in the CK to convert it to Form 44, or should I Copy the models from LE EVT into the SE folder and then install? Thanks again for the helpInstall the mod as usual. Only convert the esp in CK64. Do not modify any of the NIFs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samphaa7 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Install the mod as usual. Only convert the esp in CK64. Do not modify any of the NIFs.It must have been a problem with my download. I reinstalled the mods selecting the same options in both and it didn't correct itself. Tried normal trees instead of the lush option, same again. Re-downloaded both files, installed as usual, ran texgen and dyndolod again and everything works perfect now, the trunks are all 2D instead of full model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indanger Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) Hey, I have a small problem regarding some ugly bushes/shrubs in the distance:https://puu.sh/EXJie/ecb6720370.jpg I was generating 3d tree LODs with Enhanced Landscapes + EVT and everything worked just fine except those plants circled in red. While approaching them they completely change form and color. So I checked what those plants are:https://puu.sh/EXJka/e62c6750bc.jpg - these are the ones that appear yellow in the distancehttps://puu.sh/EXJjQ/47fc4299ec.jpg - these are the dark red ones from the first link Afterwards I took at the look at my DynDOLOD logs:https://puu.sh/EXJq4/797e6103fa.pnghttps://puu.sh/EXJqu/f5eb70849d.png I have Billboards for those installed:https://puu.sh/EXJs8/893bc9c3f2.png so my question is: what can I do to fix it? Are my current Billboards just corrupted/broken/etc.? Even though the plants look completely different than their LODs, I do not have a mod installed that changes their meshes (so the issue cannot be missing Billboards from mod x/y that changed their appearence, right?). Thanks in advance. It feels like my problem is simple but I fail to see the connections and cannot come up with a solution myself. Edited January 8, 2020 by Indanger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheson Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) Hey, I have a small problem regarding some ugly bushes/shrubs in the distance:https://puu.sh/EXJie/ecb6720370.jpg I was generating 3d tree LODs with Enhanced Landscapes + EVT and everything worked just fine except those plants circled in red. While approaching them they completely change form and color. So I checked what those plants are:https://puu.sh/EXJka/e62c6750bc.jpg - these are the ones that appear yellow in the distancehttps://puu.sh/EXJjQ/47fc4299ec.jpg - these are the dark red ones from the first link Afterwards I took at the look at my DynDOLOD logs:https://puu.sh/EXJq4/797e6103fa.pnghttps://puu.sh/EXJqu/f5eb70849d.png I have Billboards for those installed:https://puu.sh/EXJs8/893bc9c3f2.png so my question is: what can I do to fix it? Are my current Billboards just corrupted/broken/etc.? Even though the plants look completely different than their LODs, I do not have a mod installed that changes their meshes (so the issue cannot be missing Billboards from mod x/y that changed their appearence, right?). Thanks in advance. It feels like my problem is simple but I fail to see the connections and cannot come up with a solution myself. FAQ: Game: Tree LOD: LOD trees do not match close-up full model trees A: Find better matching billboards for the tree mods or create them. See this video Honestly? Just remove the billboards and have no LOD for small bushes and shrubs. Best for performance.Or you could try making optmized 3D LOD models for them. Edited January 8, 2020 by sheson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indanger Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 FAQ: Game: Tree LOD: LOD trees do not match close-up full model trees A: Find better matching billboards for the tree mods or create them. See this video Honestly? Just remove the billboards and have no LOD for small bushes and shrubs. Best for performance.Or you could try making optmized 3D LOD models for them. Wow, thanks for the fast response. I did not expect that those shrubs count as "trees" ...So my problems are just mismatches between actual models and their billboards, got it. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVitrial Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I'm not sure what I changed, but I just started getting this error:[00:00:02.015] Scanning 169 rules for reference FormIDs for selected worlds[00:00:02.063] Found reference 0A06312F using base element 00018A02 TreePineForest02[00:00:02.110] [00:00:02.110] Exception in unit prepare line 581: Can not copy [REFR:0A06312F] (places TreePineForest02 [TREE:00018A02] in GRUP Cell Persistent Children of [CELL:00037EE6] (in SolitudeWorld "Solitude" [WRLD:00037EDF]) at -18,25) from Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp into DynDOLOD.esp Assertion failure (C:\Delphi\projects\DynDOLOD\wbImplementation.pas, line 14062)[00:00:02.110] [00:00:02.110] Check log lines above the exception for additional hints. Check the FAQ and search official forum http://forum.step-project.com/forum/101-shesons-dyndolod-support/ for those errors. [00:00:02.110] [00:00:02.110] If problem persists, post error report with entire contents (not just the last couple lines) of ..\DynDOLOD\bugreport.txt and ..\DynDOLOD\logs\DynDOLOD_SSE_log.txt to official forum http://forum.step-project.com/forum/101-shesons-dyndolod-support/[00:00:02.112] Error: Can not copy [REFR:0A06312F] (places TreePineForest02 [TREE:00018A02] in GRUP Cell Persistent Children of [CELL:00037EE6] (in SolitudeWorld "Solitude" [WRLD:00037EDF]) at -18,25) from Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp into DynDOLOD.esp Assertion failure (C:\Delphi\projects\DynDOLOD\wbImplementation.pas, line 14062) Here's my bugreport.txt: https://pastebin.com/4xt7MGK1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVitrial Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Shoot, forgot the log. Here it is.https://pastebin.com/wKHQZFL9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheson Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 I'm not sure what I changed, but I just started getting this error:[00:00:02.015] Scanning 169 rules for reference FormIDs for selected worlds[00:00:02.063] Found reference 0A06312F using base element 00018A02 TreePineForest02[00:00:02.110] [00:00:02.110] Exception in unit prepare line 581: Can not copy [REFR:0A06312F] (places TreePineForest02 [TREE:00018A02] in GRUP Cell Persistent Children of [CELL:00037EE6] (in SolitudeWorld "Solitude" [WRLD:00037EDF]) at -18,25) from Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp into DynDOLOD.esp Assertion failure (C:\Delphi\projects\DynDOLOD\wbImplementation.pas, line 14062)[00:00:02.110] [00:00:02.110] Check log lines above the exception for additional hints. Check the FAQ and search official forum http://forum.step-project.com/forum/101-shesons-dyndolod-support/ for those errors.[00:00:02.110] [00:00:02.110] If problem persists, post error report with entire contents (not just the last couple lines) of ..\DynDOLOD\bugreport.txt and ..\DynDOLOD\logs\DynDOLOD_SSE_log.txt to official forum http://forum.step-project.com/forum/101-shesons-dyndolod-support/[00:00:02.112] Error: Can not copy [REFR:0A06312F] (places TreePineForest02 [TREE:00018A02] in GRUP Cell Persistent Children of [CELL:00037EE6] (in SolitudeWorld "Solitude" [WRLD:00037EDF]) at -18,25) from Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp into DynDOLOD.esp Assertion failure (C:\Delphi\projects\DynDOLOD\wbImplementation.pas, line 14062) Here's my bugreport.txt: https://pastebin.com/4xt7MGK1 FAQ: DynDOLOD.exe: Can not copy xxxx from xxxx.esp into xxx.espA: Often caused by a broken bashed patch. Use a newer Wrye Bash version to create the patch or do not use the merge patches option. A: There is a plugin in the load order with errors. Check the load order for errors with xEdit.exe before generating LOD. Fix all errors. See this video for help. If removing the bashed patch lets the process run through, it means that the bashed patch is broken and needs to be generated again with a newer version of Wrye Bash. Searching finds:https://forum.step-project.com/topic/13781-can-not-copy-refr0706312f-places-treepineforest02-tree00018a02-in-grup-cell-persistent-children-of-cell00037ee6https://forum.step-project.com/topic/14566-can-not-copyhttps://forum.step-project.com/topic/14514-can-not-copyhttps://forum.step-project.com/topic/14301-can-not-copyhttps://forum.step-project.com/topic/14127-can-not-copyhttps://forum.step-project.com/topic/14136-can-not-copyhttps://forum.step-project.com/topic/14025-can-not-copyhttps://forum.step-project.com/topic/14140-can-not-copyhttps://forum.step-project.com/topic/14205-can-not-copyhttps://forum.step-project.com/topic/14256-can-not-copy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVitrial Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Well, rebuilding the bashed patch didn't help, but disabling it worked. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheson Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) Well, rebuilding the bashed patch didn't help, but disabling it worked. Thanks.Disabling a plugin is not a fix. I suggest to also not use broken plugins in the game. See if there is a newer version here https://github.com/Wrye-Code-Collection/wrye-bash/releases/ and if it changes anything.Otherwise upload the Bashed Patch to a file service. Edited January 11, 2020 by sheson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanderat Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 I am us\inge the latest nightly. Works fine with DynDOLOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVitrial Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) Well, updating the existing dyndolod esp/esm had a different crash. (https://pastebin.com/UDVH4UH9, https://pastebin.com/E0bvZLzp)With older esp/esms deleted and the bashed patch totally rebuilt with no error messages using the latest build (from the wrye bash discord), I got the exact same error as posted before (https://pastebin.com/RgWGnueD, https://pastebin.com/cLaL3HfM).Here's my broken bashed patch: https://mega.nz/#!UhMTTKpb!ofAvRsrguzfRMWDA8BytZsgtokzglGkI5Pvvxte5NWg Edited January 11, 2020 by DarthVitrial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheson Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) Well, updating the existing dyndolod esp/esm had a different crash. (https://pastebin.com/UDVH4UH9, https://pastebin.com/E0bvZLzp)With older esp/esms deleted and the bashed patch totally rebuilt with no error messages using the latest build (from the wrye bash discord), I got the exact same error as posted before (https://pastebin.com/RgWGnueD, https://pastebin.com/cLaL3HfM).Here's my broken bashed patch: https://mega.nz/#!UhMTTKpb!ofAvRsrguzfRMWDA8BytZsgtokzglGkI5Pvvxte5NWgWhen you use xEdit to check the Bashed Patch, you will notice that the overwrites of persistent cells are listed like the other temporary cells. This invalid order of data causes the xEdit assert checks to fail. Left is Skyrim.esm (or any other plugin overwriting these records) - right is your Bashed Patch Give the github version a try. Make sure to use the correct one depending on your Windows version. Then you can check result yourself quickly in xEdit. Let me know what happens. Edited January 12, 2020 by sheson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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