Missing textures/walls in caves

[Avarium]

I am missing some textures particularly in caves! (have not noticed anywhere else)

Made a litle video of my issue.. : 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq0_QgdzYZc&feature=youtu.be
 
I use ONLY step guided mods excluded only a select few (Foz Ro Da) that i did not care about and i do not use anything outside of the guide at the moment except for realvision enb 

Anyone know what is causing this? 

I use mod organizer and my load order in LOOT is as follows

 

[spoiler=LOOT order] 0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
3 3 Dawnguard.esm
4 4 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
5 5 HearthFires.esm
6 6 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
7 7 Dragonborn.esm
8 8 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
9 9 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
10 a Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
11 b HighResTexturePack01.esp
12 c HighResTexturePack02.esp
13 d HighResTexturePack03.esp
14 e Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
15 f Cutting Room Floor.esp
16 10 Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp
17 11 SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
18 12 iHUD.esp
19 13 Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
20 14 RaceMenu.esp
21 15 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
22 16 SkyUI.esp
23 17 TradeBarter.esp
24 18 ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp
SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp
SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp
SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp
25 19 Footprints.esp
26 1a Moss Rocks.esp
27 1b Moss Rocks_DB.esp
28 1c 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp
29 1d Beards.esp
30 1e Brows.esp
31 1f ORM-Arvak.esp
32 20 WetandCold.esp
33 21 BetterQuestObjectives.esp
34 22 Book Covers Skyrim.esp
35 23 Dead Body Collision.esp
36 24 SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp
37 25 SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
38 26 BirdsHFclean.esp
39 27 Point The Way.esp
40 28 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
41 29 AOS.esp
42 2a Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
43 2b Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
44 2c Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp
45 2d Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
46 2e Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
47 2f aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
48 30 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
49 31 imp_helm_legend.esp
Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
50 32 ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp
51 33 Elemental Staves.esp
GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
52 34 Animated Weapon Enchants.esp
53 35 Paralyze.esp
54 36 BFSEffects.esp
55 37 DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp
56 38 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
57 39 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
58 3a Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp
59 3b RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
60 3c SFO - Dragonborn.esp
61 3d TheChoiceIsYours.esp
62 3e Run For Your Lives.esp
63 3f Bring Out Your Dead.esp
64 40 SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp
SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp
SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp
65 41 HearthfireChimneys.esp
66 42 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
67 43 PilgrimsDelight.esp
68 44 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
69 45 BlockSparkles.esp
70 46 mintylightningmod.esp
71 47 Rainbows.esp
72 48 ShootingStars.esp
73 49 Gildergreen Regrown.esp
74 4a TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
75 4b Chesko_Step418_SN.esp
76 4c RelightingSkyrim_Legendary.esp
77 4d ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp
78 4e Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp
79 4f Soul Gems Differ - NW.esp
80 50 DragonShoutVoice.esp
81 51 IHSS.esp
82 52 randomthunder.esp
83 53 Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
84 54 ADS.esp
85 55 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
86 56 Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp
87 57 ClamsDropPearls.esp
88 58 Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp
89 59 Convenient Horses.esp
90 5a Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
91 5b Lock Overhaul.esp
92 5c NonEssentialChildren.esp
93 5d SMDropLitTorch.esp
94 5e Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
Traps Make Noise.esp
95 5f WetandCold - Ashes.esp
96 60 When Vampires Attack.esp
97 61 WM Trap Fixes.esp
98 62 Dual Sheath Redux.esp
99 63 STEP Extended Patch.esp
100 64 DynDOLOD.esp
101 65 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
102 66 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

 

[Greg]

If I'm not mistaken, Static Mesh Improvement Mod provides the meshes, and aMidianBorn Caves and Mines and Re-Defined Dungeons provide the textures. What I'm seeing in the video doesn't appear to be a simple texture issue, though. Missing textures typically show up as a a blue area where the texture should be.

 

This looks more like a mod changed the interior space of this particular cave since that area is missing, although nothing in your load order really stands out as a probable cause. I don't think DynDOLOD touches interior spaces, and I don't think the bashed patch should effect this either.

[Kesta]

This cave is modified by dawnguard. Maybe there is an error in here. But I highly doubt this wouldn't be fixed by the UDGP, and I don't remember any STEP mods potentially causing this issue.

 

 

IIRC this is an "real" interior cave (there is some cave which actually are small worldspace surrounded by walls and toped by a rooftop), so it shouldn't be dyndolod either.

[Greg]

Now this is very interesting because I had (incorrectly) thought all caves were real interior spaces, although I do know a few that are so small it shouldn't surprise me that it's a bit of Hocus Pocus with the walls and roofs on an exterior space.

[Kesta]

Now this is very interesting because I had (incorrectly) thought all caves were real interior spaces, although I do know a few that are so small it shouldn't surprise me that it's a bit of Hocus Pocus with the walls and roofs on an exterior space.

In TES5Edit, expand Skyrim.esm and then the "worldspace" group. You'll see that beside Tamriel and the 5 instancied cities and some other obvious open spaces (Skuldafn, Blackreach, Sovngard, ...), some like the eldergleam sanctuary or the moss mother cavern are also worldspaces listed here and not cells.

[Avarium]

If I load up skyrim without mods via the steam launcher everything is fine and nothing is missing so I guess it has to be one of the mods doing something?

I even reinstalled SMIM and both cave texture mods nothing changed

As you mentioned it's a dawngaurd cave? Can something be missing from my tes5edit cleaned dawngaurd esp's or maybe the unofficial dawngaurd patch? I'm totally out of ideas otherwise


the cave is Greywater Grotto

Edited September 28, 2015 by Avarium

[GrantSP]

Load up your list into xEdit and see which mods make changes to that location, one of them must be doing something odd.

[Greg]

I just checked in TES5Edit and the only mods I see that alter Greywater Grotto are Skyrim, Unofficial Skyrim Path, Relighting Skyrim Legendary, and ELE Legendary Lite. The last two add sunlight and alter the lighting in the cave with no edits to anything other than the lighting.

 

The only things I can think to check is to make sure you have the DLC mods and the unofficial patches in the right order in both panes. The left pane should be:

 

 

 

Cleaned Update

Unofficial Skyrim Patch

Unmanaged Dawnguard

Cleaned Dawnguard

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch

Unmanaged Hearthfires

Cleaned Hearthfires

Unofficial Hearthfires Patch

Unmanaged Dragonborn

Cleaned Dragonborn

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch

SKSE

PapyrusUtil

Stable uGrids ToLoad

Distant Decal Fix

Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01

Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02

Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03

Unofficial High Resolution Patch

 

 

 

In the right pane:

 

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Hearthfires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfires Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn.esp

 

 

 

I doubt this is the issue I think Mod Organizer will throw up all kinds of warning bells if these aren't in the right order.

 

Make sure you are using the latest versions of the unofficial patches. These should all be version 2.1.3b with the exception of the Unofficial High Resolution Patch.

 

If none of this fixes it, go into an interior space, save, and exit. Then uncheck the cleaned versions of the mods and try it again... just to rule out something hasn't gone amuck with the cleaned versions of the mods.

[Avarium]

I just checked in TES5Edit and the only mods I see that alter Greywater Grotto are Skyrim, Unofficial Skyrim Path, Relighting Skyrim Legendary, and ELE Legendary Lite. The last two add sunlight and alter the lighting in the cave with no edits to anything other than the lighting.

 

The only things I can think to check is to make sure you have the DLC mods and the unofficial patches in the right order in both panes. The left pane should be:

 

 

 

Cleaned Update

Unofficial Skyrim Patch

Unmanaged Dawnguard

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch

Cleaned Dawnguard

Unmanaged Hearthfires

Cleaned Hearthfires

Unofficial Hearthfires Patch

Unmanaged Dragonborn

Cleaned Dragonborn

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch

SKSE

PapyrusUtil

Stable uGrids ToLoad

Distant Decal Fix

Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01

Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02

Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03

Unofficial High Resolution Patch

 

 

 

In the right pane:

 

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Hearthfires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfires Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn.esp

 

 

 

I doubt this is the issue I think Mod Organizer will throw up all kinds of warning bells if these aren't in the right order.

 

Make sure you are using the latest versions of the unofficial patches. These should all be version 2.1.3b with the exception of the Unofficial High Resolution Patch.

 

If none of this fixes it, go into an interior space, save, and exit. Then uncheck the cleaned versions of the mods and try it again... just to rule out something hasn't gone amuck with the cleaned versions of the mods.

 

 

thing is this is what MO tells me when i place my left panel the way you showed:

 

The conflict resolution order for some mods with scripts differs from that of the corresponding esp.

This may lead to subtle, hard to locate bugs.

Please first ensure your load order is correct!

If it is you should re-order the affected mods (left list!) like this:

Move Unofficial Skyrim Patch before Unmanaged: Dragonborn

Move Unmanaged: Dawnguard before Unmanaged: Dragonborn

Move Unofficial Dawnguard Patch before Unmanaged: Dragonborn

Move Unmanaged: HearthFires before Unmanaged: Dragonborn

Move Unofficial Hearthfire Patch before Unmanaged: Dragonborn

 

 

tested it the way you showed nothing changed

 

now this is what my mo wants my left panel arranged to 

SKSE

Update ESM CLEAN

Unofficial Skyrim Patch

Unmanaged Dawngaurd

Unofficial Dawngaurd Patch

Unmanaged Heartfires

Unofficial Heartfires Patch

Unmanaged Dragonborn

Dragonborn ESM-Clean

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch

Heartfire ESM-Clean

Dawngaurd ESM-Clean

Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03

Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02

Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01

PapyrusUtil

Stable ugrids to load

Distant decal fix

Unofficial High Resolution Patch

 

 

here a picture 

 

 

 

[GrantSP]

You have the 'Cleaned' ESMs in the wrong places. Each 'Cleaned' ESM should follow immediately after the unmanaged vanilla one and THEN the Unofficial patches come after those.

 

What you are doing here is this:

 

Original ESM is being patched by the Unofficial Patch and is then reverted to vanilla (albeit clean) ESM again.

 

You have it correct for "Dragonborn" but not the others.

 

Additionally if you have MO managing your BSAs, you should, then you don't need the plugins for the Hi-Res Patchs active in the load order. That's why they have that little broom icon beside them.

[Avarium]

okay changed the order so now its correct unmanaged>clean>unofficial patch all done, but my problem remains 

 

the only mods (according to tes5edit) that do anything for this cave are: Skyrim.esm, Unofficial skyrim patch.esp, birdshfclean.esp, relight skyrim and ELE lite

 

I am rly stuck on this

Edited September 30, 2015 by Avarium

[gaznevada]

I am missing some textures particularly in caves! (have not noticed anywhere else)

 

Made a litle video of my issue.. : 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq0_QgdzYZc&feature=youtu.be

 

I use ONLY step guided mods excluded only a select few (Foz Ro Da) that i did not care about and i do not use anything outside of the guide at the moment except for realvision enb 

 

Anyone know what is causing this? 

 

I use mod organizer and my load order in LOOT is as follows

 

[spoiler=LOOT order] 0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

3 3 Dawnguard.esm

4 4 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

5 5 HearthFires.esm

6 6 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

7 7 Dragonborn.esm

8 8 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

9 9 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

10 a Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

11 b HighResTexturePack01.esp

12 c HighResTexturePack02.esp

13 d HighResTexturePack03.esp

14 e Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

15 f Cutting Room Floor.esp

16 10 Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp

17 11 SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp

18 12 iHUD.esp

19 13 Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp

20 14 RaceMenu.esp

21 15 RaceMenuPlugin.esp

22 16 SkyUI.esp

23 17 TradeBarter.esp

24 18 ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp

SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp

SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp

SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp

25 19 Footprints.esp

26 1a Moss Rocks.esp

27 1b Moss Rocks_DB.esp

28 1c 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp

29 1d Beards.esp

30 1e Brows.esp

31 1f ORM-Arvak.esp

32 20 WetandCold.esp

33 21 BetterQuestObjectives.esp

34 22 Book Covers Skyrim.esp

35 23 Dead Body Collision.esp

36 24 SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp

37 25 SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp

38 26 BirdsHFclean.esp

39 27 Point The Way.esp

40 28 RealisticWaterTwo.esp

41 29 AOS.esp

42 2a Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

43 2b Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

44 2c Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp

45 2d Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

46 2e Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp

Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp

47 2f aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp

48 30 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

49 31 imp_helm_legend.esp

Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp

50 32 ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp

51 33 Elemental Staves.esp

GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp

52 34 Animated Weapon Enchants.esp

53 35 Paralyze.esp

54 36 BFSEffects.esp

55 37 DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp

56 38 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

57 39 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

58 3a Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp

59 3b RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

60 3c SFO - Dragonborn.esp

61 3d TheChoiceIsYours.esp

62 3e Run For Your Lives.esp

63 3f Bring Out Your Dead.esp

64 40 SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp

SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp

SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp

65 41 HearthfireChimneys.esp

66 42 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

67 43 PilgrimsDelight.esp

68 44 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

69 45 BlockSparkles.esp

70 46 mintylightningmod.esp

71 47 Rainbows.esp

72 48 ShootingStars.esp

73 49 Gildergreen Regrown.esp

74 4a TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp

75 4b Chesko_Step418_SN.esp

76 4c RelightingSkyrim_Legendary.esp

77 4d ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp

78 4e Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp

79 4f Soul Gems Differ - NW.esp

80 50 DragonShoutVoice.esp

81 51 IHSS.esp

82 52 randomthunder.esp

83 53 Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp

84 54 ADS.esp

85 55 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

86 56 Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp

87 57 ClamsDropPearls.esp

88 58 Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp

89 59 Convenient Horses.esp

90 5a Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp

91 5b Lock Overhaul.esp

92 5c NonEssentialChildren.esp

93 5d SMDropLitTorch.esp

94 5e Thieves Guild Requirements.esp

Traps Make Noise.esp

95 5f WetandCold - Ashes.esp

96 60 When Vampires Attack.esp

97 61 WM Trap Fixes.esp

98 62 Dual Sheath Redux.esp

99 63 STEP Extended Patch.esp

100 64 DynDOLOD.esp

101 65 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

102 66 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

 

I have the very same problem. I mean: in the same place (greywater grotto), with the same disapperaring walls and even more severe problems toward the end of the grotto. Did you manage to solve the problem? Thanks

[TechAngel85]

I've had this issue in a few "exterior dungeon" locations. I swore it was DynDOLOD, but no one was ever able to confirm and I wasn't able to look into it further at the time.