DynDOLOD 3.00 Alpha 190

[ThorRight]

Well after much toil I managed to get things to work!

https://imgur.com/xmYme05https://imgur.com/xmYme05https://imgur.com/a/VPwlCUK

Thank you, for all the help. Just one or two questions.  I have a very large world space with terrain outside of the havok bug limit that was only there for LOD and look pretty. Some places you can walk right up to cell 64 to 65. Dyndolod has a worldspace size limit too? Does Dundolod also break after that size limit, or what's the reason it's being limited?

And the other question, I have another worldspace on an esp, it never showed up in the lists of worldspaces Dyndolod could generate lod for. I have done terrain lod on it with SSELODGEN64 and it has the lod settings file. There's not much in it, only a couple of trees.

[broncofan0211]

  On 5/15/2022 at 7:54 PM, sheson said:

After doing recalc bounds for all plugins I get 4 more grass LOD billboards for  origins of forest - 3d forest grass.esp and 4 for more for qw's grass patch 2.esp and 1 more for skyrim.esm.
No change for folkvangr - grass and landscape overhaul.esp and cathedral - 3d pine grass.esp.

Not sure yet if those are the missing billboards in your case. With that the LODGen_SSE_Grass_Map_Tamriel.txt contains 42 lines compared to the 34 lines you uploaded.
All it takes is one or two crucially required billboards to be missing to have large empty patches if that grass is used a lot.

Check your TexGen output textures\terrain\lodgen\TexGen_SSE_Grass_Billboards.txt and compare it with Notepad++ for example to the one attached to this post, which will not have the "False" in those lines.
You can force generation of billboards without having to recalc bounds or adjusting other settings by using that file and split it up for the different plugins to force creation. See https://dyndolod.info/Help/TexGen-Configuration#Tree-Grass-LOD-Billboards below the object bounds for the explanations. 

TexGen_SSE_Grass_Billboards.txt 14.32 kB · 1 download

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Hey Sheson, Wow, thanks for running it for comparison! I was just finishing regenerated texgen and dyn output, after Recalc Bounds on all 4 plugins. I have the same amount as you now (+ a few from vigilant and water plants). It makes sense you had the same amount for Folkvangr since that’s the one I did Recalc Bounds for in the past. 
I’m regenerating dyndolod output though. Because I still didn’t get grass lods, and strangely the file size was 1 gb smaller than prior runs. So maybe something went wrong with it.

[broncofan0211]

  On 5/15/2022 at 7:54 PM, sheson said:

After doing recalc bounds for all plugins I get 4 more grass LOD billboards for  origins of forest - 3d forest grass.esp and 4 for more for qw's grass patch 2.esp and 1 more for skyrim.esm.
No change for folkvangr - grass and landscape overhaul.esp and cathedral - 3d pine grass.esp.

Not sure yet if those are the missing billboards in your case. With that the LODGen_SSE_Grass_Map_Tamriel.txt contains 42 lines compared to the 34 lines you uploaded.
All it takes is one or two crucially required billboards to be missing to have large empty patches if that grass is used a lot.

Check your TexGen output textures\terrain\lodgen\TexGen_SSE_Grass_Billboards.txt and compare it with Notepad++ for example to the one attached to this post, which will not have the "False" in those lines.
You can force generation of billboards without having to recalc bounds or adjusting other settings by using that file and split it up for the different plugins to force creation. See https://dyndolod.info/Help/TexGen-Configuration#Tree-Grass-LOD-Billboards below the object bounds for the explanations. 

TexGen_SSE_Grass_Billboards.txt 14.32 kB · 1 download

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Hey Sheson,

Sorry for replying to your same post twice. But I did rerun dyndolod output again, after my last reply, but it didn't work. I didn't esl any of the plugins. I'm attaching new logs from the latest run. Maybe it just isn't going to work for me. Not sure what else to try. Thanks for your help though, it's appreciated.

https://ufile.io/el9ln86h  texgen sse log

https://ufile.io/cjtdhe4w  texgen sse debug log

https://ufile.io/v5irfjoo  dydnolod sse log

https://ufile.io/j5mr8tz4   dyndolod sse debug log

https://ufile.io/m6qtay8e  lodgen sse export tamriel

https://ufile.io/bn7r8zgn   lodgen sse grass map tamriel

[sheson]

  On 5/15/2022 at 6:25 PM, had said:

I got it once and cant reproduce.

Something about opengl.

Probably not what important.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_HkG6XdunxIAPLK9udoKEpm5zFCxhwV4/view?usp=sharing

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There seems to be some interaction with using an effect shader in LOD.
Please make 3 screenshots: one without any generated LOD meshes, one with the meshes you send me and one with these edited meshes.
https://mega.nz/file/8UREGQpS#waN43DyEZgaRZnUTun9y_nX_e9ND8Uw18ovIz7s2Dgc

Then add/set [Water] bReflectSky=0 in Skyrim.ini and make the same 3 screenshots again.

You have RealisticWater Two and then Water Effects Brightness and Water Effects Brightness and Reflection Fix - Realistic Water Two Patch overwriting it?
What are their versions?

[sheson]

  On 5/15/2022 at 8:56 PM, ThorRight said:

Well after much toil I managed to get things to work!

https://imgur.com/xmYme05https://imgur.com/xmYme05https://imgur.com/a/VPwlCUK

Thank you, for all the help. Just one or two questions.  I have a very large world space with terrain outside of the havok bug limit that was only there for LOD and look pretty. Some places you can walk right up to cell 64 to 65. Dyndolod has a worldspace size limit too? Does Dundolod also break after that size limit, or what's the reason it's being limited?

And the other question, I have another worldspace on an esp, it never showed up in the lists of worldspaces Dyndolod could generate lod for. I have done terrain lod on it with SSELODGEN64 and it has the lod settings file. There's not much in it, only a couple of trees.

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Dynamic LOD uses triggerboxes. See DynDOLOD-README.txt and https://dyndolod.info/DynDOLOD-Reference#11-Generate-dynamic-LOD.
DynDOLOD does not "break". The game "breaks" beyond certain coordinates. Dynamic LOD will most likely just not update once the player is beyond the working area similar to using tcl.

See https://dyndolod.info/FAQ "Not seeing all worldspaces in the selection box"

[sheson]

  On 5/16/2022 at 12:38 AM, broncofan0211 said:

Hey Sheson,

Sorry for replying to your same post twice. But I did rerun dyndolod output again, after my last reply, but it didn't work. I didn't esl any of the plugins. I'm attaching new logs from the latest run. Maybe it just isn't going to work for me. Not sure what else to try. Thanks for your help though, it's appreciated.

https://ufile.io/el9ln86h  texgen sse log

https://ufile.io/cjtdhe4w  texgen sse debug log

https://ufile.io/v5irfjoo  dydnolod sse log

https://ufile.io/j5mr8tz4   dyndolod sse debug log

https://ufile.io/m6qtay8e  lodgen sse export tamriel

https://ufile.io/bn7r8zgn   lodgen sse grass map tamriel

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The grass map file shows only 9 entries now...
You need to update the grass cache as well after making changes to the grass plugins.

[had]

  On 5/16/2022 at 5:51 AM, sheson said:

What are their versions?

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Upgraded Water Effects Brightness and Reflection Fix to 0.4 from 0.3 recently might be case, patch installed after i encounter what problem and have read dyndolod faq.

[Mousetick]

  On 5/16/2022 at 9:14 AM, had said:

Upgraded Water Effects Brightness and Reflection Fix to 0.4 from 0.3 recently might be case, patch installed after i encounter what problem and have read dyndolod faq.

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I don't know what mod manager you're using but your overwriting order doesn't make any sense to me.

Should be (next overwrites previous):

1. Realistic Water Two
2. Water Effects Brightness and Reflection Fix
3. Water Effects Brightness and Reflection Fix - RWT Patch
4. (remaining ones after that)

I'm using this setup with DynDOLOD* without any issues.

(*) Alpha-85 with Resources Alpha-23. Haven't tried latest yet.

[had]

  On 5/16/2022 at 9:44 AM, Mousetick said:

I don't know what mod manager you're using but your overwriting order doesn't make any sense to me.

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Its sorted by installation time.

[Mousetick]

  On 5/16/2022 at 9:48 AM, had said:

Its sorted by installation time.

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sheson asked you previously:

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You have RealisticWater Two and then Water Effects Brightness and Water Effects Brightness and Reflection Fix - Realistic Water Two Patch overwriting it?

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It's still not clear what overwrites what in your case. Can you provide that information? Installation time doesn't really help, if it's different from overwrite order. 

[had]

  On 5/16/2022 at 10:12 AM, Mousetick said:

It's still not clear what overwrites what in your case.

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Yes, load order is file just like you say, rwt2 and all fixed after it.

[sheson]

  On 5/16/2022 at 10:18 AM, had said:

Yes, load order is file just like you say, rwt2 and all fixed after it.

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Install this test version of  DynDOLOD Resources SE 3 Alpha and then generate LOD again or start DynDOLOD in expert mode, select desired worldspaces and the click Execute LODGen. That should fix the reflections hopefully.

[broncofan0211]

  On 5/16/2022 at 6:36 AM, sheson said:

The grass map file shows only 9 entries now...
You need to update the grass cache as well after making changes to the grass plugins.

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Yes, yes indeed, I do need to grass cache. I actually remembered that later last night, but it was too late and I didn’t want to tag you again. But I’ll do everything later tonight and let you know. Thanks!

[had]

  On 5/16/2022 at 3:58 PM, sheson said:

Install this test version of  DynDOLOD Resources SE 3 Alpha and then generate LOD again or start DynDOLOD in expert mode, select desired worldspaces and the click Execute LODGen. That should fix the reflections hopefully.

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Seems fine, thx.

[sheson]

  On 5/16/2022 at 7:22 PM, had said:

Seems fine, thx.

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Great. Thanks for letting us know.