sheson Posted February 25 Author Posted February 25 1 hour ago, tabaras said: Hi, I noticed SSEEdit's "check for errors" returns several "Unknown Record Flags" in CELLs in dyndolod.esp like this: [00:00] [CELL:0001691F] (in WindhelmWorld "Windhelm" [WRLD:0001691D]) [00:00] CELL \ Record Header \ Record Flags -> <Unknown: 14 $E> and in MSTT in dyndolod.esm like this: Tamriel_Underside [MSTT:08006C62] [00:00] MSTT \ Record Header \ Record Flags -> <Unknown: 2 $2> Is this normal? I have the "old" Skyrim SE 1.5.97 and using the latest DynDOLOD alpha, xLODGen and DynDOLOD DLL NG and Scripts 3.00. Moved to the DynDOLOD 3 alpha thread. Use latest xEdit build from discord server to have flag 14 show its name. Use search: https://stepmodifications.org/forum/topic/17510-dyndolod-300-alpha-167/page/600/#comment-276720 Read FAQ: https://dyndolod.info/FAQ#Checking-DynDOLOD-plugins-for-errors-with-xEdit
Farsveinn Posted February 25 Posted February 25 (edited) Hi, it's me again. As I wrote, this fix didn't help, moreover, now I have the opposite effect. I have now disabled all graphics mods, community shaders, generated texgen and dyndolod using only resources. (yes i know, the terrane texture is not vanilla, i didn't regenerate the terrane). The animated waterfalls flicker, as does this section of the mountain. It's insane. logs Edited February 25 by Farsveinn
sheson Posted February 25 Author Posted February 25 9 hours ago, Farsveinn said: Hi, it's me again. As I wrote, this fix didn't help, moreover, now I have the opposite effect. I have now disabled all graphics mods, community shaders, generated texgen and dyndolod using only resources. (yes i know, the terrane texture is not vanilla, i didn't regenerate the terrane). The animated waterfalls flicker, as does this section of the mountain. It's insane. logs Make useful screenshots with more informative console of the dynamic LOD model and the full model. Does the flicker stop when disabling all static LOD with tll in console?
Farsveinn Posted February 26 Posted February 26 (edited) It's the same waterfall as before. Yes, if I disable it via console or disable DynDoLod in MCM, the flickering stops. It's fxwaterfallbodytall02_dyndolod_lod.nif Tested on default settings, no graphics mods, just skse tweaks, interface tweaks and unofficial patch (and some minor things that couldn't affect the result). It's most likely my problem as I haven't seen similar bugreports, but I don't know where I could be wrong as I've been using your wonderful program for a few years now and it's always been ok. Edited February 26 by Farsveinn
sheson Posted February 26 Author Posted February 26 5 hours ago, Farsveinn said: It's the same waterfall as before. Yes, if I disable it via console or disable DynDoLod in MCM, the flickering stops. It's fxwaterfallbodytall02_dyndolod_lod.nif Tested on default settings, no graphics mods, just skse tweaks, interface tweaks and unofficial patch (and some minor things that couldn't affect the result). It's most likely my problem as I haven't seen similar bugreports, but I don't know where I could be wrong as I've been using your wonderful program for a few years now and it's always been ok. I am not sure if you used the "disable" command or "tll" command in console? Disabling the dynamic LOD model in the console with "disable" or all dynamic LOD in the MCM is not the same as disabling all static LOD with tll in console. Does the flicker stop when disabling all static LOD with "tll" in console and only the dynamic LOD remains?
Farsveinn Posted February 26 Posted February 26 No, the flickering remains, it's a dynamic LOD problem. Static lods are fine.
sheson Posted February 27 Author Posted February 27 21 hours ago, Farsveinn said: No, the flickering remains, it's a dynamic LOD problem. Static lods are fine. Replace ..\Meshes\DynDOLOD\lod\effects\fxwaterfallbodytall02_dyndolod_lod.nif from DynDOLOD Resources with this fxwaterfallbodytall02_dyndolod_lod.nif No need to to run DynDOLOD again. Just start the game test. Let us know if the dynamic LOD has less flicker now. 1
Farsveinn Posted February 27 Posted February 27 7 hours ago, sheson said: Replace ..\Meshes\DynDOLOD\lod\effects\fxwaterfallbodytall02_dyndolod_lod.nif from DynDOLOD Resources with this fxwaterfallbodytall02_dyndolod_lod.nif No need to to run DynDOLOD again. Just start the game test. Let us know if the dynamic LOD has less flicker now. Unfortunately, nothing has changed.
sheson Posted February 27 Author Posted February 27 4 minutes ago, Farsveinn said: Unfortunately, nothing has changed. How about this version? fxwaterfallbodytall02_dyndolod_lod.nif
Farsveinn Posted February 27 Posted February 27 No, it seems to have gotten worse (unless my eyes deceive me). Strange, a similar waterfall doesn't have this problem like fXwaterfallbodytall_dyndolod_lod.nif
sheson Posted February 27 Author Posted February 27 10 minutes ago, Farsveinn said: No, it seems to have gotten worse (unless my eyes deceive me). Strange, a similar waterfall doesn't have this problem like fXwaterfallbodytall_dyndolod_lod.nif Doublecheck in xEdit that base record xx07607D in DynDOLOD.esm uses "dyndolod\lod\effects\fxwaterfallbodytall02_dyndolod_lod.nif" for the MODL - Model Filename Doublecheck in MO2 right window data tab that the winning file is the last one I uploaded and has 13,230 bytes file size. If all that is the case, are you sure it still flickers if you disable static object LOD with tll? If that is the case, "disable" the dynamic LOD reference xx0EB29F in DynDOLOD.esp that uses the base record xx07607D in DynDOLOD.esm in console. Is there anything else there?
Farsveinn Posted February 27 Posted February 27 Double check that the size and path are correct. I compared the default and the latest .nif. The default is flickering with tll. The latest one stops flickering with tll. Disable 0EB29F removes strong flickering, only minor artifact remains. It turns out the problem is when I look through the waterfall at static lods. As I understand it. I would have thought I made a mistake in the generation, but no. I even tested by prioritizing static lods from xlodgen, but the result is the same.
sheson Posted February 28 Author Posted February 28 15 hours ago, Farsveinn said: Double check that the size and path are correct. I compared the default and the latest .nif. The default is flickering with tll. The latest one stops flickering with tll. Disable 0EB29F removes strong flickering, only minor artifact remains. It turns out the problem is when I look through the waterfall at static lods. As I understand it. I would have thought I made a mistake in the generation, but no. I even tested by prioritizing static lods from xlodgen, but the result is the same. The "latest .nif" refers to the dynamic LOD model fxwaterfallbodytall02_dyndolod_lod.nif with 13,230 bytes? "The latest one stops flickering with tll" means there is no flicker if all static LOD is disabled? "Disable 0EB29F removes strong flickering, only minor artifact remains." means if only the the static is shown it still flickers a bit even with the fxwaterfallbodytall02passthru_lod.nif from this post https://stepmodifications.org/forum/topic/17510-dyndolod-300-alpha-167/?do=findComment&comment=277418? If you disable both the static LOD with tll and disable the dynamic LOD reference xx0EB29F there is nothing left showing there? "static lods from xlodgen" refers to static terrain LOD? Since the DynDOLOD output does not contain any static terrain LOD files, there should be no conflict between the outputs. DynDOLOD output only contains static object LOD (and the disabled static tree LOD since you generated ultra tree LOD).
Farsveinn Posted February 28 Posted February 28 8 hours ago, sheson said: The "latest .nif" refers to the dynamic LOD model fxwaterfallbodytall02_dyndolod_lod.nif with 13,230 bytes? "The latest one stops flickering with tll" means there is no flicker if all static LOD is disabled? "Disable 0EB29F removes strong flickering, only minor artifact remains." means if only the the static is shown it still flickers a bit even with the fxwaterfallbodytall02passthru_lod.nif from this post https://stepmodifications.org/forum/topic/17510-dyndolod-300-alpha-167/?do=findComment&comment=277418? If you disable both the static LOD with tll and disable the dynamic LOD reference xx0EB29F there is nothing left showing there? "static lods from xlodgen" refers to static terrain LOD? Since the DynDOLOD output does not contain any static terrain LOD files, there should be no conflict between the outputs. DynDOLOD output only contains static object LOD (and the disabled static tree LOD since you generated ultra tree LOD). 1 - yes 2 - yes 3 - My mistake, I didn't use fxwaterfallbodytall02passthru_lod.nif for the last test. The small artifacts are completely gone 4 - Yeah, it's clean, nothing left 5 - Yes, I know, I just decided to do a test in case the problem is in the generated static objects, I also checked by disabling the terrain. Nothing has changed. As a result fxwaterfallbodytall02passthru_lod.nif fixed static lod flickering and the last fxwaterfallbodytall02_dyndolod_lod.nif (13,230 bytes) fixed flickering in tll mode. But in normal mode the flickering fxwaterfallbodytall02_dyndolod_lod.nif is not gone. Sorry if I write illiterate, it's not my first language, but I try. Thanks for your help.
sheson Posted February 28 Author Posted February 28 2 hours ago, Farsveinn said: 1 - yes 2 - yes 3 - My mistake, I didn't use fxwaterfallbodytall02passthru_lod.nif for the last test. The small artifacts are completely gone 4 - Yeah, it's clean, nothing left 5 - Yes, I know, I just decided to do a test in case the problem is in the generated static objects, I also checked by disabling the terrain. Nothing has changed. As a result fxwaterfallbodytall02passthru_lod.nif fixed static lod flickering and the last fxwaterfallbodytall02_dyndolod_lod.nif (13,230 bytes) fixed flickering in tll mode. But in normal mode the flickering fxwaterfallbodytall02_dyndolod_lod.nif is not gone. Sorry if I write illiterate, it's not my first language, but I try. Thanks for your help. Replace Meshes\lod\waterfalls\fxwaterfallbodytall02passthru_lod.nif from DynDOLOD Resources with this fxwaterfallbodytall02passthru_lod.nif Start DynDOLOD in expert mode, select Tamriel and check Object LOD and then click the Execute LODGen button to update the object LOD meshes from the last generation. See https://dyndolod.info/Help/Expert-Mode Let us know if there is less flicker now when both everything is active as usual.
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