DynDOLOD 3.00 Alpha 182

[Hercules6969]

Hello

I'm experiencing a CTD in Whiterun since version a162 (a164 included) that I do not have with a156 (I've just redone the generation for the test with the same load order). Evrytime I walk towards the market, I get a CTD with the same type of error message (https://ufile.io/y3hkk7we). I get no error during generation of textures or LOD with version a164. In the SKSE log, there is a mention of a File: "Architecture\WhiteRun\WRBuildings\WRHouseShack02.nif", I tried replacing this (and its textures) with those of the base game in case it might be corrupted but I still crash

If you need the dyndolod log, I'll provide them as well

I'm using Skyrim version 1.6.1130 and updated all the mods (I believe so). Here are my generation settings in case I do something wrong

Edited December 30, 2023 by Hercules6969
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[sheson]

2 hours ago, Hercules6969 said:

Hello

I'm experiencing a CTD in Whiterun since version a162 (a164 included) that I do not have with a156 (I've just redone the generation for the test with the same load order). Evrytime I walk towards the market, I get a CTD with the same type of error message (https://ufile.io/y3hkk7we). I get no error during generation of textures or LOD with version a164. In the SKSE log, there is a mention of a File: "Architecture\WhiteRun\WRBuildings\WRHouseShack02.nif", I tried replacing this (and its textures) with those of the base game in case it might be corrupted but I still crash

If you need the dyndolod log, I'll provide them as well

I'm using Skyrim version 1.6.1130 and updated all the mods (I believe so). Here are my generation settings in case I do something wrong

Read the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs whihc DynDOLOD log and debug log to upload when making posts.

As explained at https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Copy-and-Paste-Text, do not post screenshots of the tools, unless it is about visual issues with the user interface.

What SKSE log is mentioning Architecture\WhiteRun\WRBuildings\WRHouseShack02.nif?
Upload that log. too.
Which mod did the NIF come from at the time the crash log was created?
If the crash is repeatable and always mentioning the same base record and NIF, then it is likely it causes the crash.

As a test you could edit the reference 6C0C97DE in DynDOLOD.esm to use a different base record with a different NIF to verify.

[dnmt]

16 hours ago, sheson said:

There are two models overlapping each other. The second model defines Data\Textures\Default.dds, which does not exist.
The overlapping models with the weird geometry happen because the full model has havok, is animated, has particles and lots of things that are not supported and suitable for object LOD.  For LOD generation there should be a static "LOD" model with all these things removed so that only the actual 3D remains and the tools do not try to generate LOD with animation and beams etc with then happen to have the Default.dds.
This affects all 3 files, so all LOD Levels. The LOD always had the problem form the start.

Download and use the latest DynDOLOD Standalone 3 Alpha and DynDOLOD Resources SE 3 versions to generate LOD from scratch. This time without setting this full model to be used for object LOD, since it is not suitable.
Make sure that Backported Extended ESL Support is installed.
Make sure the DynDOLOD DLL NG and Scripts overwrite DynDOLOD Resources SE 3.
Then start the game and test everything works with "coc whiterun" from main menu console. If that works, restart the game and load an interior save and go outside.
If there are any problems in the game post the DynDOLOD log, DynDOLOD debug log and papyrus logs as explained at https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs and the c:\Users\deana\Documents\My Games\Skyrim Special Edition\SKSE\DynDOLOD.log as explained at https://dyndolod.info/Help/Large-Reference-Bugs-Workarounds#Testing

Thanks for this. I re-did my whole DynDOLOD and ensured I made a clean save and it's all working now. I think the key was downloading BEES. Everything is looking great on both my existing saves. The last DynDOLOD message I should see in the MCM is "DynDOLOD activated", right? I saw it initialize but had to toggle on "DynDOLOD active" on one of the saves, but everything is looking good now on both - DynDOLOD toggled on in the MCM and the last message is "DynDOLOD activated". Thank you again for your assistance here.

[sheson]

35 minutes ago, dnmt said:

Thanks for this. I re-did my whole DynDOLOD and ensured I made a clean save and it's all working now. I think the key was downloading BEES. Everything is looking great on both my existing saves. The last DynDOLOD message I should see in the MCM is "DynDOLOD activated", right? I saw it initialize but had to toggle on "DynDOLOD active" on one of the saves, but everything is looking good now on both - DynDOLOD toggled on in the MCM and the last message is "DynDOLOD activated". Thank you again for your assistance here.

If it is active in the MCM and the last message is DynDOLOD activated you should be good.

[Hercules6969]

18 hours ago, sheson said:

Read the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs whihc DynDOLOD log and debug log to upload when making posts.

As explained at https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Copy-and-Paste-Text, do not post screenshots of the tools, unless it is about visual issues with the user interface.

What SKSE log is mentioning Architecture\WhiteRun\WRBuildings\WRHouseShack02.nif?
Upload that log. too.
Which mod did the NIF come from at the time the crash log was created?
If the crash is repeatable and always mentioning the same base record and NIF, then it is likely it causes the crash.

As a test you could edit the reference 6C0C97DE in DynDOLOD.esm to use a different base record with a different NIF to verify.

Hi

The nif came from Winedave https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/28950, I replaced it with parallax meshes from pfusher and the CTD is gone. What is strange is that I have been using WIndave parallax meshes from the begining with the older versions of Dyndolod without CTD... I kept windave textures. What is important for me is that it's fixed now...

Thanks for taking the time to answer. You're doing a wonderful work for us!

Edited December 31, 2023 by Hercules6969

[sheson]

6 minutes ago, Hercules6969 said:

Hi

The nif came from Winedave https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/28950, I replaced it with parallax meshes from pfusher and the CTD is gone. What is strange is that I have been using WIndave parallax meshes from the begining with the older versions of Dyndolod without CTD... I kept windave textures. What is important for me is that it's fixed now...

Thanks for taking the time to answer. You're doing a wonderful work for us!

The requested logs were not provided.

If the NIF was the same file, then the difference is because of changes in the load order or settings now requiring to add a reference using that NIF, while before there wasn't.

[StrayHALO_MAN]

Hello, I generated a new dyndolod on v165 and when I try and load my save skyrim says it's missing all of the plugins from dyndolod.

My last run was on dyndolod v158 and that worked fine.

Please help me, it's new years and I just want to play the game, I've been dealing with blue screens, and failed generations for 2 days now... I just want to play the game.

[sheson]

Read the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs which log and debug log to upload when making posts.

The game not loading plugins has nothing to with the tool creating a plugin.

When start the game and test everything works with "coc whiterun" from main menu console. If that works, restart the game and load an interior save and go outside.

[StrayHALO_MAN]

7 minutes ago, sheson said:

Read the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs which log and debug log to upload when making posts.

The game not loading plugins has nothing to with the tool creating a plugin.

When start the game and test everything works with "coc whiterun" from main menu console. If that works, restart the game and load an interior save and go outside.

I was told this is where to go for help.
Here are my texgen and dyndolod logs, the issue is with my plugin though.
I can load into the game however the plugins are disabled, I think it's the new 1.71 plugin type conflicting with skyrim 1.6.640.

https://mega.nz/file/kwZG2Sob#UaVTRv61Udnmw0paFOpNWPSKcY7thSfmERgXB59A79U

[StrayHALO_MAN]

I looked at dyndolod in xedit and the plugin format is 1.8 and that could be causing it to not load on older skyrim versions.

Edit: I changed the plugin format to 1.7 in xEdit and the dyndolod plugins finally load... Though I don't trust that everything will be fine lol
Would you be able to have Dyndolod support older versions of the game with a setting that changes the plugin generation or is that out of scope?

Edited December 31, 2023 by StrayHALO_MAN

[sheson]

39 minutes ago, StrayHALO_MAN said:

I looked at dyndolod in xedit and the plugin format is 1.8 and that could be causing it to not load on older skyrim versions.

Edit: I changed the plugin format to 1.7 in xEdit and the dyndolod plugins finally load... Though I don't trust that everything will be fine lol
Would you be able to have Dyndolod support older versions of the game with a setting that changes the plugin generation or is that out of scope?

Read the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs which log and debug log to upload when making posts.

The DynDOLOD plugins use the highest version found in plugins in the load order.

Permanently remove all plugin that have a too high version and/or make sure that Backported Extended ESL Support is installed.

[StrayHALO_MAN]

I do have backported esl support and thank you so much for telling me about dyndolod using the highest version found in the load order that helped alot.
I also did read about the logs the first time and uploaded them to mega with a link.

[StrayHALO_MAN]

47 minutes ago, sheson said:

Read the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs which log and debug log to upload when making posts.

The DynDOLOD plugins use the highest version found in plugins in the load order.

Permanently remove all plugin that have a too high version and/or make sure that Backported Extended ESL Support is installed.

Hey I found the plugin that was set to 1.80 in my load order, thankfully the mod was never loaded into my save or anything so I only needed to change the version to 1.70 to fix it...
But thanks to you I finally can play the game after 2 days of blue screens, 2 bios updates, literal rage tears and other compounding issues I had to fix while trying to figure out what was going on all It's been finally fixed thanks to your few words here.
I promise right now I'm going to join your Patreon, you're my hero and have a happy new years <3

Edited December 31, 2023 by StrayHALO_MAN

[sheson]

10 hours ago, StrayHALO_MAN said:

Hey I found the plugin that was set to 1.80 in my load order, thankfully the mod was never loaded into my save or anything so I only needed to change the version to 1.70 to fix it...
But thanks to you I finally can play the game after 2 days of blue screens, 2 bios updates, literal rage tears and other compounding issues I had to fix while trying to figure out what was going on all It's been finally fixed thanks to your few words here.
I promise right now I'm going to join your Patreon, you're my hero and have a happy new years <3

Ah sorry, didn't see there were two posts while being on mobile.

Great that it works now. Thanks for whatever donation you may make on Ko-fi.

Did the plugin with 1.8 come like this from a mod or do you know how it happened that it has that version?

[StrayHALO_MAN]

13 hours ago, sheson said:

Ah sorry, didn't see there were two posts while being on mobile.

Great that it works now. Thanks for whatever donation you may make on Ko-fi.

Did the plugin with 1.8 come like this from a mod or do you know how it happened that it has that version?

I became a ElminsterAU patreon for 5 bucks a month and I'll send you $15 on Ko-fi too.