Please help me. Unplayable stutter with DynDOLOD 3 Enabled

[Saint_Chewy]

I apologize in advance for this post and want to thank anyone in advance who replied to this thread. I am pretty desperate to get this working. I have some screenshots of the FPS/Frametime to show what I am dealing with. I have also posted the same topic on Reddit for additional help.

My computer specs: CPU: i9 10900k @ 5ghz

GPU: EVGA FTW3 3090 24GB

Ram: 32GB Corsair DDR4 3600Mhz

SSD: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB

PSU: EVGA P2 1200W

Windows 10 21H2

My Load order Library

TexGen and DynDOLOD Settings

So my Skyrim has been plagued by an unplayable stutter. I have spent close to 100 hours trying to troubleshoot this issue myself. Basically, my Skyrim will be smooth and perfectly playable for the first few minutes. After a few minutes, it becomes a stuttery mess.

Now this stutter does not appear to be loading stutter, which is actually pretty surprising for how many mods I am running. I had Skyrim Performance Monitor running and saw that the I/O graph looked pretty normal as well Example.

This stutter is just constant when you are moving and is unplayable. If I stand still and rotate the camera the FPS/Frametime is just fine.

Before I ever started modding my game, I made sure that it was playable and smooth and stable. I basically run in a giant loop to do this. My test run takes me from the exit of the cave from Helgen down to outside of Whiterun, east towards the soutside of Riften, then north up to Windhelm and then to Winterhold and west to Dawnstar, then to Morthal, and then across the swamp to Solitude and then finally follow the road back to the cave outside Helgen. I never stutter, hitch or anything on vanilla Skyrim. This tells me that my ini files should be okay. I even tried running at 2.5x speed to make sure I didn't get any stutter.

Now for my testing here with my screenshots, I am only running to the southside of Riftens gate and I am running at 2.5x speed to test for load stutter. The stutter is pretty much the same whether its 1x speed or 2.5x speed, its just a tiny bit more spread out on 1x speed.

All Mods enabled WITHOUT DynDOLOD

 

DynDOLOD Enabled with Mods 1x Speed

 

DynDOLOD Enabled with Mods 2.5x Speed

Through my troubleshooting I have narrowed it down to DynDOLOD as the culprit or at least somewhat responsible. I am not sure why this is. I have tried to use the reddit search and google specifically for DynDOLOD stutter and there really hasnt been anything in a few years. No one else seems to have my issue or at least comment about it. I have tried just about every setting in DynDOLOD from Low to High to removing the Ultra tree LOD and grass LOD and nothing seems to help. If I run DynDOLOD on the vanilla game with no mods, it will run close to perfect. I get a few little blips on the frametime graph, but I cannot feel it in game which is fine Example

. If I run my Skyrim with all my mods minus DynDOLOD, it will run mostly fine. I say mostly fine because with how many mods I am running, I will occasionally get a stutter. I have come to accept that as I do understand that Skyrim and its engine is not perfect. These stutters are consistent enough to not bother me Example

. The problem with this is that I find Skyrims default LOD to be hideous and consider DynDOLOD to be essential and do not want to play with out it if I can absolutely avoid it.

I have tried to disable half my mods with DynDOLOD and then do the other half and then do groups of mods at a time and once I think I have narrowed it down to the mod that is causing the problem, it will just start right back up. One bright thing about doing this, is that I did discover that Enhanced Blood Textures will cause a repeatable stutter outside Riften every single time. Not sure why either, but I have removed that mod for now.

Another thing that I tried is that I copied my Skyrim and mods over to my wifes computer to rule out a computer issue. I received the exact same issue. Smooth and playble for a few minutes and then same stuttery mess. so I know its not my computer, and it should be something with my mods.

My Wife's computer specs: CPU: i7 8700k @ 5.1ghz

GPU: EVGA FTW3 2080ti 11GB

Ram: 16GB Corsair DDR4 3200Mhz

SSD: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB

PSU: EVGA G2 750W

Windows 11 22H2

Please help me with my stutter issue. I am so desperate to fix this.

[z929669]

2 minutes ago, Saint_Chewy said:

 

Hi, thank you for your reply. I do have SSE Display Tweaks installed along with the High performance configuration file merged with it. I will read over the Bethini settings. I am currently using it with all Ultra settings and the recommended tweaks

If all is fine and your stuttering only coincides with your use of DynDOLOD 3, then you will need to post for help in the DynDOLOD support forums using instructions in the OP and the forum.

[z929669]

37 minutes ago, Saint_Chewy said:

I apologize in advance for this post and want to thank anyone in advance who replied to this thread. I am pretty desperate to get this working. I have some screenshots of the FPS/Frametime to show what I am dealing with. I have also posted the same topic on Reddit for additional help.

My computer specs: CPU: i9 10900k @ 5ghz

GPU: EVGA FTW3 3090 24GB

Ram: 32GB Corsair DDR4 3600Mhz

SSD: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB

PSU: EVGA P2 1200W

Windows 10 21H2

My Load order Library

TexGen and DynDOLOD Settings

So my Skyrim has been plagued by an unplayable stutter. I have spent close to 100 hours trying to troubleshoot this issue myself. Basically, my Skyrim will be smooth and perfectly playable for the first few minutes. After a few minutes, it becomes a stuttery mess.

Now this stutter does not appear to be loading stutter, which is actually pretty surprising for how many mods I am running. I had Skyrim Performance Monitor running and saw that the I/O graph looked pretty normal as well Example.

This stutter is just constant when you are moving and is unplayable. If I stand still and rotate the camera the FPS/Frametime is just fine.

Before I ever started modding my game, I made sure that it was playable and smooth and stable. I basically run in a giant loop to do this. My test run takes me from the exit of the cave from Helgen down to outside of Whiterun, east towards the soutside of Riften, then north up to Windhelm and then to Winterhold and west to Dawnstar, then to Morthal, and then across the swamp to Solitude and then finally follow the road back to the cave outside Helgen. I never stutter, hitch or anything on vanilla Skyrim. This tells me that my ini files should be okay. I even tried running at 2.5x speed to make sure I didn't get any stutter.

Now for my testing here with my screenshots, I am only running to the southside of Riftens gate and I am running at 2.5x speed to test for load stutter. The stutter is pretty much the same whether its 1x speed or 2.5x speed, its just a tiny bit more spread out on 1x speed.

All Mods enabled WITHOUT DynDOLOD

 

DynDOLOD Enabled with Mods 1x Speed

 

DynDOLOD Enabled with Mods 2.5x Speed

Through my troubleshooting I have narrowed it down to DynDOLOD as the culprit or at least somewhat responsible. I am not sure why this is. I have tried to use the reddit search and google specifically for DynDOLOD stutter and there really hasnt been anything in a few years. No one else seems to have my issue or at least comment about it. I have tried just about every setting in DynDOLOD from Low to High to removing the Ultra tree LOD and grass LOD and nothing seems to help. If I run DynDOLOD on the vanilla game with no mods, it will run close to perfect. I get a few little blips on the frametime graph, but I cannot feel it in game which is fine Example

. If I run my Skyrim with all my mods minus DynDOLOD, it will run mostly fine. I say mostly fine because with how many mods I am running, I will occasionally get a stutter. I have come to accept that as I do understand that Skyrim and its engine is not perfect. These stutters are consistent enough to not bother me Example

. The problem with this is that I find Skyrims default LOD to be hideous and consider DynDOLOD to be essential and do not want to play with out it if I can absolutely avoid it.

I have tried to disable half my mods with DynDOLOD and then do the other half and then do groups of mods at a time and once I think I have narrowed it down to the mod that is causing the problem, it will just start right back up. One bright thing about doing this, is that I did discover that Enhanced Blood Textures will cause a repeatable stutter outside Riften every single time. Not sure why either, but I have removed that mod for now.

Another thing that I tried is that I copied my Skyrim and mods over to my wifes computer to rule out a computer issue. I received the exact same issue. Smooth and playble for a few minutes and then same stuttery mess. so I know its not my computer, and it should be something with my mods.

My Wife's computer specs: CPU: i7 8700k @ 5.1ghz

GPU: EVGA FTW3 2080ti 11GB

Ram: 16GB Corsair DDR4 3200Mhz

SSD: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB

PSU: EVGA G2 750W

Windows 11 22H2

Please help me with my stutter issue. I am so desperate to fix this.

If you follow the Step guide linked in the top nav, you will have installed SSE Display Tweaks. This (and other game config and your driver settings together) resolves many stuttering issues. You should read up on SSE Display Tweaks config and see the Step guide BethINI settings to use in conjunction with these settings.

[Saint_Chewy]

15 minutes ago, z929669 said:

If you follow the Step guide linked in the top nav, you will have installed SSE Display Tweaks. This (and other game config and your driver settings together) resolves many stuttering issues. You should read up on SSE Display Tweaks config and see the Step guide BethINI settings to use in conjunction with these settings.

 

Hi, thank you for your reply. I do have SSE Display Tweaks installed along with the High performance configuration file merged with it. I will read over the Bethini settings and try the Display Tweaks custom ini. I am currently using it with all Ultra settings and the recommended tweaks

Edited October 24, 2022 by Saint_Chewy

[Saint_Chewy]

37 minutes ago, z929669 said:

If you follow the Step guide linked in the top nav, you will have installed SSE Display Tweaks. This (and other game config and your driver settings together) resolves many stuttering issues. You should read up on SSE Display Tweaks config and see the Step guide BethINI settings to use in conjunction with these settings.

I tried your suggestion and used the custom ini for Display tweaks and settings and followed the Step guide for Bethini settings and I am still pretty much have the exact same issue. Screenshot

22 minutes ago, z929669 said:

If all is fine and your stuttering only coincides with your use of DynDOLOD 3, then you will need to post for help in the DynDOLOD support forums using instructions in the OP and the forum.

Okay understood thank you

[DoubleYou]

What is the size of the largest bto file in your DynDOLOD output? 

Meshes/terrain/Tamriel/objects

[z929669]

34 minutes ago, DoubleYou said:

What is the size of the largest bto file in your DynDOLOD output? 

Meshes/terrain/Tamriel/objects

It might matter, but the Step build will produce one as large as 322 Mb without issue ... and that's pretty huge.