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Anyone gotten this to work?  I rebuilt my setup yesterday - started fresh, all new downloads, followed the guide as of yesterday.

 

BTW:  HUGE THANKS FOR THAT NEO.  From what I've seen so far, it's the best Skyrim setup I've played.

 

On top of the mods in the guide, I've added a bunch of tattoos/warpaints, additional hair and eyes, Ethereal Elven Overhaul, Deadric Dawnbreaker, the LotR Weapon set, Hunterborn, Harvest Overhaul and AutoHarvester2.  To this point, all is working fine.

 

This morning I added PerMe and PCaPP.  I ran the "more heapspace" reproccer and within 2 seconds the process threw a "null pointer exception", which from what I gather means an incompatible mod.

 

Since there are nearly 200 plugins at this point, I'm trying to determine if it's in the SR:LE base or one of the mods I added.  I'm thinking it's Hunterborn at this point, but before I start dropping mods, I wanted to make sure if anyone was running the combination and what might be causing it.

 

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

EDIT: I forgot.  I also added Intresting NPCs as well...

 

Here's the modlist:

 

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
+SUM - SkyProc Unified Manager
+RaceMenu - Loose Scripts
+Memory Blocks Log
+FileAccess Interface for Skyrim Script - FISS
-010--[KLC]-----[Miscellaneous Things]--
+Moonlight Tales - KrittaKitty Eye Pack
+Moonlight Tales - Werewolf and Werebear Overhaul
+Better Vampires 6.6
-009f----------[Vampires and Werewolves]
+Better Fast Travel - Carriages and Ships - Overhauled
-009e----------[Travel]---------------------------
-Dual Sheath Redux for Perkus Maximus
+PerMa Compatibility and PaMa Patches
+Perkus Maximus - Maximum Perk Overhaul
+Skyrim -Community- Uncapper
-009d----------[Perks and Leveling]-------------
+Trade and Barter
+Skyrim Coin Replacer Redux
+RealisticRoomRental-Enhanced
-009c----------[Economy]-----------------------
+Wiseman303's Trap Fixes
+VioLens - A Killmove Mod
+Traps Make Noise - More Dangerous Traps
+NPC Knockout Overhaul
-009b----------[Combat and Traps]-------------
+Real Shelter Patch Template
+Real Shelter - Full Release
+iNeed - Food Water and Sleep
+Hunterborn
+Harvest Overhaul
+Frostfall - HD Cloak Texture
+Frostfall - Hypothermia Camping Survival
+Auto Harvest 2 - Loot Container and Deadbodies
-009a----------[basic Needs and Survival]-------
-009--[sRLE]-----[Gameplay]----------
+Heart of the Beast - Werewolf Sound and Texture Overhaul
+AOS Reduced Reverb
+Audio Overhaul for Skyrim 2
-008a----------[General Sound Improvement]---
-008--[sRLE]-----[symphony of Skyrim]---------
+Weapons and Armor Fixes Remade
+Clothing and Clutter Fixes
+Winter Is Coming - CCO Compatible Version NEW
+Cloaks of Skyrim - CCO Compatible Version NEW
+CCO Compatibility Patch for Skyrim Immersive Creatures
+CCO Compatibility Patch for Frostfall
+CCO Compatibility Patch for WAF True Weapons
+Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade
-007e----------[Recipe and Stat Changers]-------
+Winter Is Coming - Cloaks
+Wearable Lanterns
+Isilmeriel LOTR Weapons Collection
+Immersive Armors
+Cloaks of Skyrim - Dawnguard
+Cloaks of Skyrim
+Bandolier - Dawnguard
+Bandolier - Bags and Pouches
-007d----------[New Items]----------------------
+Lore Friendly and SemiSkimpy Armors - UNPB-BBP
+TroubleMakers Forsworn Armor - Customizable UNPB and BBP also BBPx
+TroubleMakers Clothing - UNPB UNP BBP BBPx TBBP MTM HDT-PE Female Body Replacer
+UNPB Hide Armor fix
+Meshes for UNPB users
+UNP Boot Pack
+UNP Female Armors
+UNP Dragonborn Armors
+UNP Dawnguard Armors
-007c----------[uNP Vanilla Armor Conversions]
+UltraHD - Stormcloak and City Guards 2k Fix
+UltraHD - Stormcloak and City Guards
+Nightingale Arrows - CCO compatibility patch
+Nightingale Weapons Retexture - Carbon Fiber
+Nightingale Prime HD
+New Jewels for Circlets
+Improved Closefaced Helmets (Amidianborn compatibility patch)
+ICH (Guard helmets with tight eye holes)
+Improved closefaced helmets
+Gemling Queen Jewelry
+EotW Mage Robes of Skyrim - Hearthfire DLC Robes addon
+EotW Mage Robes of Skyrim
+EcthelionOtW Mage Equipment Overhaul
+EotW Dawnguard DLC Textures Remastered
+Daedric Dawnbreaker
+LeanWolf's Better Shaped Weapons - All in One Installer
+Better Circlets HQ V1o1
+Apophysis Dragon Priest Masks
+aMidianBorn stormcloak officer armour
+aMidianBorn Steel Armor
+aMidianBorn Scaled Armor
+aMidianBorn Iron and Banded Armor
+aMidianBorn imperial light and studded
+aMidianBorn Hide and Studded Hide
+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Skyforge Hotfix
+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Bonemold Hotfix
+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Content Addon
+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Weapons
+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Unique Items
+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Dragonborn DLC
+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Creatures
+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Armors
+aMidianBorn Blade of Woe
-007b----------[Vanilla Item Retextures]---------
+Dual Sheath Redux
-007a----------[Dynamic Patches]---------------
-007--[sRLE]-----[Armory of Skyrim]------------
+When Vampires Attack
+Wet and Cold - Ashes
+Wet and Cold
+Run For Your Lives
+Respectful Guard Animations
+OBIS - Organized Bandits In Skyrim
+RS Children Patches - Intresting NPCs Patch
+Intresting NPCs
+Immersive Patrols
+High Level Enemies 1.6 SIC Edition
+Guard Dialogue Overhaul
+Follower Commentary Overhaul - FCO
+Bring Out Your Dead
-006f----------[NPCs and Behaviour]------------
+ã€Skeleton】XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended
+Word Walls More Glorious
+Realistic Ragdolls and Force
+No Spinning Death Animation
+Immersive Animations
+HDT Physics Extensions
+Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS
+Female Facial Animation
+Dragon Soul Absorb More Glorious
+Belt-Fastened Quivers
-006e----------[Animation and Skeleton]--------
+UNP BLESSED BODY- UNPB REDUX PROJECT
+RS Children Patches - Wyrmstooth Patch
+RS Children Patches - Falskaar Patch
+RS Children Overhaul - Merged USKP Patch
+RS Children Overhaul - Books of Skyrim Patch
+Merged RS Children Patches
+RS Children Overhaul
+No More Ugly Bronze Shine
+Mature Skin 2 UNP CBBE
+FAR - Forgotten Argonian Roots
+Ethereal Elven Overhaul
+Coverkhajiits - Male
+Coverkhajiits - Female
+Better males - Underwear
+Better males - Body
+Better males - Faces
+Argonian Female Refined
-006d----------[skin and Body]------------------
+Realistic Vampire Eyes
+The Eyes Of Beauty - Elven Edition
+The Eyes Of Beauty - Dawnguard Update
+The Eyes Of Beauty
+Flans Eyes for Skyrim
+Merged Eye Pack
+Eye Normal Map Fix
-006d----------[Eyes]----------------------------
+THEHAGs Privat Tattoos for UNP - UNPB
+The Neith Team Warpaints Set
+The Coenaculi - RaceMenu Plugin for Tattoos
+TSOnTheSpot
+TSLayered
+TSLadiesComeFirst
+TairenSoulV9
-006c----------[Tattoos and Warpaint]----------
+Superior Lore-Friendly Hair - HD textures
+SG Hair Pack 268 by HelloSanta
+Ponytail Hairstyles
+Brows
+Beards
+Lovely Hairstyles
+ApachiiSkyHair natural Retexture - Male
+ApachiiSkyHair natural Retexture - Female
+ApachiiSkyHair natural Retexture - Update
+ApachiiSkyHair natural Retexture
+ApachiiSkyHair - Male
+ApachiiSkyHair - Female
+ApachiiSkyHair
+More Realistic Hair
-006b----------[beards-Brows and Hair]----------
+ASIS Patcher
-006a----------[Dynamic Patches]----------------
-006--[sRLE]-----[The People of Skyrim]----------
+Skyrim Immersive Creatures
+Deadly Dragons
-005c----------[New Creatures and Encounters]------------
+Dawnguard Rewritten Arvak - Convenient Alsvid Patch
+Dawnguard Rewritten - Arvak
+Convenient Horses
-005b----------[Animal Companions and Mounts]----------
+PondFish and Salmon Replacer - texture
+Bellyaches New Dragon Species HQ retex
+Skyrim Realistic Texture Overhaul dragons 4K-8K
+Bellyaches New Dragon Species
+Bellyaches HD Dragon Replacer Pack
-005a----------[Vanilla Creature Retextures and Tweaks]----
-005--[sRLE]-----[Creatures of Skyrim]----------
+Breezehome FullyUpgradable
+Beautiful Whiterun Modified to be compatible with BFU
-Beautiful Whiterun
+Beginners Shack - Starter home
+Books of Skyrim
-004i----------[Expanded Cities-Towns and Villiges]
+Thieves Guild Requirements - No Auto Quest Start Brynjolf
+The Paarthurnax Dilemma
+The Choice is Yours - Dragonborn
+The Choice is Yours - Dawnguard
+The Choice is Yours - Fewer Forced Quests - Improved Dialogue Options
+Provincial Courier Service
+Gildergreen Regrown
+Cutting Room Floor
+Alternate Start - Live Another Life
-004h----------[Modified and Expanded Quests]
+Footprints - Ash Supplemental
+Footprints
+Enhanced Blood Textures
+Deadly Spell Impacts
+BFS Effects 3 6 - Dragonborn Dawnguard
+Burn Freeze Shock Effects
+Alternate Summoning Visuals
-004g----------[Effects]------------------------
+WEBS extended Animated Clutter 1 9 compatibility patch
+WEBS extended
+Vivid Landscapes - Castle Volkihar - ELFX Compatibility patch
+Vivid Landscapes - Castle Volkihar
+Vivid Landscapes - Moss Rocks - Compatibility Patch
+Vivid Landscapes - Enhanced Lights and FX Compatibility patch
+Vivid Landscapes - All in One
+Ultimate HD Candle Flames
+Ultimate HD Fire Effects
+The Skyrim Distance Overhaul Beta (S.D.O.)
+Telvanni reborn
+Stalhrim of Skyrim
+Skyrim Realistic Texture Overhaul Dragonborn
+Skyrim Flora Overhaul - E Update
+Skyrim Flora Overhaul - D Update
+Skyrim Flora Overhaul
+SkyFalls + SkyMills
+Serious HD Retexture Skyrim
+Realistic Water Two - ENB Textures
+Realistic Water Two - Merged
+Realistic Water Two
+Realistic Smoke and Embers
+Real Ice
+Pilgrims Delight - High Hrothgar Shrine Retextures
+Moss Rocks - Dragonborn DLC Addon
+Moss Rocks
+Lightning during Thunder Storms - CoT Patch
+Lightning during Thunder Storms
+HQLODs - Normals Original
+HQLODs - Meshes Hi-Res
+HQ3DMap - Normals Original
+HQ3DMap - Meshes Hi-Res
+HD Stone Quarry and Clay Deposit for Hearthfire
+HD Enhanced Terrain PRO - Blended Version
+A Quality World Map
+Enhanced Night Skyrim v04 Blue Galaxy
+Enhanced Night Skyrim v04 Medium Stars
+Enhanced Distant Terrain 2 - Dragonborn
+Enhanced Distant Terrain 2
+Dynamic snow For Map
+Sulfur Rocks - v030
+Ash Rocks
+aMidianBorn Solstheim Landscape
+aMidianBorn Caves and Mines
-004f-----------[Landscape and Environment]-
+White Phial Replacer
+Weathered Road Signs
+Stunning Statues of Skyrim
+Septim HD
+Ren's HD Shrines by Rengel
+Realistic Boat Bobbing
+HQ Paper
+Hold Border Banners
+Gemling Queen Dragon Claws
+Enhanced HD Dragon Bones 2k v1.6a
+Improved Enchanter Candle Meshes
+Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library
+Book Covers Skyrim
+Bloody Dragon Bones
+Animated Dwemer Lift Load Doors for Dragonborn DLC
+Animated Dwemer Lift Load Doors
+Animated Clutter
-004e-----------[Clutter and Miscellaneous]----
+Lanterns of Skyrim - All In One
+Relighting Skyrim FULL - Tailored for ELFX
+Project Parallax Remastered - Stone Wall Fix
+Project Parallax Remastered - Bridge Update
+Project Parallax Remastered - SRO
+Project Parallax Remastered
+ELFX - SMIM Meshes
+Enhanced Lights and FX - Dragonborn
+Enhanced Lights and FX - Dawnguard
+Enhanced Lights and FX
+Skyrim Realistic Overhaul
+Static Mesh Improvement Mod
+No stretching
+Better Dynamic Snow
-004d-----------[General World Improvement]--
+Vividian ENB Patches
+Vividian ENB - Extended Weathers
+Vividian ENB - Weather and Lighting Enhancement - Vivid Color Version
-004c------------[ENB Data Files]----------------
+Climates of Tamriel - Weather Patches
+Falskaar - Climates of Tamriel patch
+Project Reality - Climates Of Tamriel - Dragonborn Patch
+Project Reality - Climates Of Tamriel - Dawnguard Patch
+Project Reality - Climates Of Tamriel-V3
-004b------------[Weather Systems]-------------
+Wyrmstooth Optimised
+Wyrmstooth
+Falskaar Optimised
+Falskaar
-004a------------[New Lands]-------------------
-004--[sRLE]-----[The World of Skyrim]----------
+Atlas Map Markers for Skyrim Blackreach Dawnguard and Dragonborn
+Face to face conversation
+Amazing Follower Tweaks
+Better Dialogue Controls
+RaceMenu - Overlays Plugin
+RaceMenu
+Smaller Cursor
+No Poison Dialogues
+moreHUD
+Main Font Replacement - Fertigo
+iWASM - Immersive Wait And Sleep Menu
+Immersive HUD - iHUD
+Better MessageBox Controls
+A Matter of Time - A HUD clock widget
+Extended UI
+SkyUI
-003--[sRLE]-----[user Interface]----------
+Stable uGridsToLoad
+Smart Souls
+Skyrim Project Optimization
+Ragdoll Paralysis
+Point The Way
+Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings
+Horns Are Forever
+Follower Trap Safety
+Dragon Stalking Fix
+Enchantment Reload Fix
+Auto Unequip Ammo
-002--[sRLE]------[Fixes]----------
+Skyrim Script Extender Data Files
+Unofficial High Resolution Patch
+Optimised-HRDLC3
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03
+Optimised-HRDLC2
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02
+Optimised-HRDLC1
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01
+Unofficial Dragonborn Patch
+Optimised-Dragonborn
*Unmanaged: Dragonborn
+Unofficial Hearthfire Patch
+Optimised-Hearthfires
*Unmanaged: HearthFires
+Unofficial Dawnguard Patch
+Optimised-Dawnguard
*Unmanaged: Dawnguard
+Unofficial Skyrim Patch
+Optimised-STD
-Original ESM File Backups -- DO NOT ACTIVATE
-001--[DEFAULT SKYRIM]--------------------

 

 

 

And here's the Loadorder:

 

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization - No Homes - Full Version.esm
Falskaar.esm
Wyrmstooth.esp
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
AzarHair.esm
SGHairPackBase.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
Brows.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
mintylightningmod.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
VioLens.esp
AshRocks.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
FISS.esp
BFSEffects.esp
AHZmoreHUD.esp
MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp
Extended UI.esp
BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp
Moss Rocks.esp
LovelyHairstylesCE.esp
DSAMG - Greybeard Fix.esp
Beards.esp
Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp
TSLCFbeta.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
Differently Ebony.esp
Dr_BandolierDG.esp
Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
NPC Knockout Overhaul.esp
SGHairPackAIO.esp
EpisodeParallax.esp
RaceMenu.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
DSAMG - Miraak Music Fixes.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
AutoHarvest2.esp
Moss Rocks_DB.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
ELFX - Dragonborn.esp
ORM-Arvak.esp
Paralyze.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
Neithteam Warpaint.esp
Footprints.esp
Footprints - Ash.esp
TairenSoulLayered.esp
The Coenaculi.esp
TSOnTheSpot.esp
RaceMenuOverlays.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
RealisticRoomRental.esp
ELFX - Dawnguard.esp
ELE-Interior Lighting Merged.esp
3DNPC.esp
FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
Patch - Interesting NPCs - RS kids.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Daedric Dawnbreaker.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
HarvestOverhaul.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB + FS + WT.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
AOS.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
Traps Are Dangerous.esp
WM Trap Fixes.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
RRR_ELFX-Patch.esp
AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp
AOS_TAD Patch.esp
SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp
Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp
ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp
Better Vampires.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp
SkyUI.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp
SulfurRocks.esp
TSLCF1.esp
TSLCFgamma.esp
TairenSoulV9.esp
TheChoiceIsYours_Dragonborn.esp
TradeBarter.esp
VividianPatches.esp
Weathered Road Signs.esp
RealShelter.esp
RSPatch.esp
OBIS.esp
Bring Out Your Dead.esp
SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Light.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp
High Level Enemies - SIC.esp
OBISDB.esp
OBISDB-FaceMasksFix.esp
CCO_WAFTrueWeapons_Patch.esp
High Level Enemies - SIC Falskaar.esp
RelightingSkyrim-FULL.esp
BFT Ships and Carriages.esp
RBB - SR Merge.esp
BellyachesNewDragonSpecies.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
Point The Way.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp
Atlas Legendary.esp
RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp
Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
Chesko_Frostfall.esp
PerMa_Survivalism.esp
Provincial Courier Service.esp
beginnersshack.esp
BooksOfSkyrim.esp
RSChildren_CompleteUSKP.esp
PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
Pre PaMa WAFR CCOR Patch.esp
PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
Pre PaMa BoYD Patch.esp
PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
ORM Convenient Alsvid.esp
WetandCold.esp
AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Beautiful Whiterun.esp
GuardAnimationsGDO.esp
Cloaks.esp
CCO_Frostfall_Patch.esp
Hunterborn.esp
PilgrimsDelight.esp
Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
HoldBorderBanners.esp
isilNarsil.esp
Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_ambSkyforge_Patch.esp
NightingaleArrows.esp
CCO_SIC_Patch.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
AOS2_GDO Patch.esp
AOS2_WAF Patch.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
AOS2_EBT Patch.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
iHUD.esp
iNeed.esp
Gildergreen Regrown.esp
RealisticWhiterun.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp
TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
MergedEyePack.esp
imp_helm_legend.esp
towConversation.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Pre PaMa CCOR Patch.esp
Pre PaMa WAFR Patch.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
ASIS-Dependency.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
ASIS.esp
AOS_Reduced_Reverb_Addon.esp

 

 

Edited by p4ck3tl055

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I have been working through MY SR:LE "ish", I got rid of COT in the process, load order one by one to determine what the problem for me is. I am down to maybe four mods and am beginning to think it is my merged or bashed patch. I have been running the patcher without creating these and have been doing OK.

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Load order is a big issue with PerMa. You need to read through the post here.

 

LOOT is only a base, you will need to hand place most esp's. That's what the biggest problem is with SR:LE and PerMa; Load Order. The "null" problem is explained in the forums of PerMa and the compatibility patch. You should read through it all. You will not get it to work otherwise. Check out this guys LO in that forum as well to get an idea of how wrong LOOt is.

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Honestly, at this point, if I can't use the mods that I want to use, I'm probably going to run without PerMa.  I may fallback and just get SkyRe running until PerMa has had a chance to mature.

 

My next big question is this:  If I can't depend on the load order of LooT, should I step back and use BOSS?  Is BOSS' masterlist even being updated anymore?

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The patcher has been completing just fine for me. I followed the tweaks on the PCaPP page (installed the java 8, tweaked the arguments line for Patchus Maximus to include '-Xmx1024m') everything works fine now for my build. The PCaPP patches have been coming fast (sometimes a new one each day) so check it often if you haven't started a play through yet.

 

As for LOOT, I added a few metadata rules to get things placed according to Raulfin's recommendations... but I do change the skyproc order and run them individually rather than all at once: Run ASIS ->sort with LOOT, Run Patchus Maximus ->sort with LOOT, finish with DSR. Also, I still make the bashed patch before running the Skyprocs. I noticed before the last PCaPP update, some of the NPC perks (NPC Enchant fix) from ASIS were not getting merged but patch 1.6.1 fixes that.

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Getting PerMa up and running and playing with load orders makes me understand Neov's reasoning behind not using LOOT even more now. You need to hand place esp's and there are still no patches for all the mods included in SR:LE. I got it working with the STEP guide though.

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Nope. Just put it in there. Don't even need to repatch. As long as it's after the PerMa esp, and before the patched esp you should be good.

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Awesome, it was working fine when I dropped it in, just wanted to see if I could save a plugin. I thought that I could fix it myself in edit, but it seemed that the record was pointing to the right mesh. I guess it was a keyword thing?

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