drift123 Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 (edited) On grass density 10 I lose about 15-20 FPS (~80 to 60) in the Whiterun tundra compared to no grass LOD. It seems that the color of the LOD matches the full grass, except for some reason the LOD only displays the green grass models and not the brown grass. Is this functioning as intended? Edit: well I tried an ENB and then the green LOD grass changed to light brown...so I think it is just the weather and lighting doing this Edited June 10 by drift123 typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheson Posted June 10 Author Share Posted June 10 1 hour ago, drift123 said: On grass density 10 I lose about 15-20 FPS (~80 to 60) in the Whiterun tundra compared to no grass LOD. It seems that the color of the LOD matches the full grass, except for some reason the LOD only displays the green grass models and not the brown grass. Is this functioning as intended? Edit: well I tried an ENB and then the green LOD grass changed to light brown...so I think it is just the weather and lighting doing this If a specfic type of full grass model has no LOD representation see https://dyndolod.info/Help/Grass-LOD#No-Grass-LOD-Check-List 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drift123 Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 7 hours ago, sheson said: If a specfic type of full grass model has no LOD representation see https://dyndolod.info/Help/Grass-LOD#No-Grass-LOD-Check-List It's just bizarre because when I enable ENB, suddenly both the green and brown grass types become visible in the LOD. I don't know how to explain that but the lighting is doing something funky. Strangely enough, the ENB makes the LOD match the full grass better than no ENB, it just needs to be a little darker I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheson Posted June 10 Author Share Posted June 10 2 hours ago, drift123 said: It's just bizarre because when I enable ENB, suddenly both the green and brown grass types become visible in the LOD. I don't know how to explain that but the lighting is doing something funky. Strangely enough, the ENB makes the LOD match the full grass better than no ENB, it just needs to be a little darker I think. It is known that ENB settings affects grass LOD color/brightness. ENB typically does not change the visibility of LOD or transparency of textures. Use tfc to get close to LOD. No logs and no useful screenshots like a close up of LOD with tfc were provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Franks Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 (edited) I cannot seem to get my Aspen tree lod working with Seasons of Skyrim. In the winter, the close trees change, but the far trees stay leafy. xEdit shows there is no dyndolod_base for treeWinterAspen, even though those are DLC01 objects that are all over the falmer valley. TreeAspen01_dyndolod_base exists, but without treewinterAspen01_dyndolod_base, how can I swap them in the winter? There is only one tree swap in the dyndolod_win.ini, and that is a treepineforest03 to treepineforest03snow and yet all of the pines are working correctly. I have attached some logs, but the debug is 14MB as a 7zip, so it is too big. This section of it shows that it is processing the winter aspens "[00:16] [LoadRecordsString] <Debug: Processing DLC1TreeFloraMountainFlower02Yellow,False Dawnguard.esm DLC1TreeFloraMountainFlower02Yellow "Mountain Flower" [TREE:02002A77]> [00:16] [LoadRecordsString] <Debug: Processing TreeWinterAspen01 Dawnguard.esm TreeWinterAspen01 [TREE:02003AC5]> [00:16] [LoadRecordsString] <Debug: Processing TreeWinterAspen02 Dawnguard.esm TreeWinterAspen02 [TREE:02003AC9]> [00:16] [LoadRecordsString] <Debug: Processing TreeWinterAspen03 Dawnguard.esm TreeWinterAspen03 [TREE:02003ACA]> [00:16] [LoadRecordsString] <Debug: Processing TreeWinterAspen04,False Dawnguard.esm TreeWinterAspen04 [TREE:02003ACB]> [00:16] [LoadRecordsString] <Debug: Processing TreeWinterAspen05 Dawnguard.esm TreeWinterAspen05 [TREE:02003ACC]> [00:16] [LoadRecordsString] <Debug: Processing TreeWinterAspen06 Dawnguard.esm TreeWinterAspen06 [TREE:02003ACF]>" So they are being processed (except 4, too small?). The . I included the falmer valley log, because it mentions them, and the tamriel log, because it does not. Is there a command I can put in the dyndolod_win.ini to force the change whether it wants to or not? Something like "[Trees] ;TreePineForest03_DynDOLOD_BASE|TreePineForestSnow03_DynDOLOD_BASE 0x64972~DynDOLOD.esm|0x64973~DynDOLOD.esm" from the bottom, but for treeAspen01_dyndolod_base to treeWinterAspen01_dyndold_base? What is the editor ID for the lod of the DLC01 winter aspen? I can't find one at all. TreeAspen01_dyndolod_base is there, but no winter version. Thanks for the help. Let me know if you need any more logs or anything. Logs.7z Edited June 11 by The_Franks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Franks Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 2 hours ago, The_Franks said: I cannot seem to get my Aspen tree lod working with Seasons of Skyrim. In the winter, the close trees change, but the far trees stay leafy. xEdit shows there is no dyndolod_base for treeWinterAspen, even though those are DLC01 objects that are all over the falmer valley. TreeAspen01_dyndolod_base exists, but without treewinterAspen01_dyndolod_base, how can I swap them in the winter? There is only one tree swap in the dyndolod_win.ini, and that is a treepineforest03 to treepineforest03snow and yet all of the pines are working correctly. I have attached some logs, but the debug is 14MB as a 7zip, so it is too big. Nevermind. I don't know why I am trying to make a mod that already exists. Seasonal Aspens took care of the winter. Not sure why it works, and even though I was doing the same thing with different names, it didn't. Unless it was because I needed to unpack the textures from the BSA. Oh, well. I am a results guy, so I cannot argue with this working. Now I just need to clean up the mess I made in my folder and mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheson Posted June 12 Author Share Posted June 12 8 hours ago, The_Franks said: I cannot seem to get my Aspen tree lod working with Seasons of Skyrim. In the winter, the close trees change, but the far trees stay leafy. xEdit shows there is no dyndolod_base for treeWinterAspen, even though those are DLC01 objects that are all over the falmer valley. TreeAspen01_dyndolod_base exists, but without treewinterAspen01_dyndolod_base, how can I swap them in the winter? There is only one tree swap in the dyndolod_win.ini, and that is a treepineforest03 to treepineforest03snow and yet all of the pines are working correctly. I have attached some logs, but the debug is 14MB as a 7zip, so it is too big. This section of it shows that it is processing the winter aspens "[00:16] [LoadRecordsString] <Debug: Processing DLC1TreeFloraMountainFlower02Yellow,False Dawnguard.esm DLC1TreeFloraMountainFlower02Yellow "Mountain Flower" [TREE:02002A77]> [00:16] [LoadRecordsString] <Debug: Processing TreeWinterAspen01 Dawnguard.esm TreeWinterAspen01 [TREE:02003AC5]> [00:16] [LoadRecordsString] <Debug: Processing TreeWinterAspen02 Dawnguard.esm TreeWinterAspen02 [TREE:02003AC9]> [00:16] [LoadRecordsString] <Debug: Processing TreeWinterAspen03 Dawnguard.esm TreeWinterAspen03 [TREE:02003ACA]> [00:16] [LoadRecordsString] <Debug: Processing TreeWinterAspen04,False Dawnguard.esm TreeWinterAspen04 [TREE:02003ACB]> [00:16] [LoadRecordsString] <Debug: Processing TreeWinterAspen05 Dawnguard.esm TreeWinterAspen05 [TREE:02003ACC]> [00:16] [LoadRecordsString] <Debug: Processing TreeWinterAspen06 Dawnguard.esm TreeWinterAspen06 [TREE:02003ACF]>" So they are being processed (except 4, too small?). The . I included the falmer valley log, because it mentions them, and the tamriel log, because it does not. Is there a command I can put in the dyndolod_win.ini to force the change whether it wants to or not? Something like "[Trees] ;TreePineForest03_DynDOLOD_BASE|TreePineForestSnow03_DynDOLOD_BASE 0x64972~DynDOLOD.esm|0x64973~DynDOLOD.esm" from the bottom, but for treeAspen01_dyndolod_base to treeWinterAspen01_dyndold_base? What is the editor ID for the lod of the DLC01 winter aspen? I can't find one at all. TreeAspen01_dyndolod_base is there, but no winter version. Thanks for the help. Let me know if you need any more logs or anything. Logs.7z 389.27 kB · 0 downloads Read the first post and or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs how to zip large log files and upload them to a file service. See https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/62861 and https://dyndolod.info/Help/Seasons#Technical-Information For things to swap, you need to create an INI for a season that contains the swaps. The original record and the record that is being swapped to need to exist both in the load order before the LOD patch generation with DynDOLOD. The full model swap needs to work without DynDOLOD output in the load order. Do not use records or files that may or may not exist in the automatically generated LOD patch. Things are generated as required by the load order and settings only. There is no guarantee they will exist consistently, across versions. The editor is not stable either. Using/patching the LOD patch or relaying in its content for anything is not how any of this is supposed to work. 5 hours ago, The_Franks said: Nevermind. I don't know why I am trying to make a mod that already exists. Seasonal Aspens took care of the winter. Not sure why it works, and even though I was doing the same thing with different names, it didn't. Unless it was because I needed to unpack the textures from the BSA. Oh, well. I am a results guy, so I cannot argue with this working. Now I just need to clean up the mess I made in my folder and mods. xEdit, xLODGen, DynDOLOD etc. read assets from BSA, so they do not need to be unpacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drift123 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 On 6/10/2024 at 4:37 PM, sheson said: It is known that ENB settings affects grass LOD color/brightness. ENB typically does not change the visibility of LOD or transparency of textures. Use tfc to get close to LOD. No logs and no useful screenshots like a close up of LOD with tfc were provided. What I mean is that enabling ENB fixes the impression of grass LOD only looking green. Without ENB the LOD grass is matching the full grass types, but the darkness makes the brown grass look the same as the green grass at a distance. ENB Off: But with ENB enabled, the green and brown grass can be seen from a distance. I just need to reduce the brightness of the grass LOD slightly to match the shadows on the full grass. Enb On: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheson Posted June 12 Author Share Posted June 12 3 minutes ago, drift123 said: What I mean is that enabling ENB fixes the impression of grass LOD only looking green. Without ENB the LOD grass is matching the full grass types, but the darkness makes the brown grass look the same as the green grass at a distance. ENB Off: But with ENB enabled, the green and brown grass can be seen from a distance. I just need to reduce the brightness of the grass LOD slightly to match the shadows on the full grass. Enb On: ENB can light distinctive types of full models (shaders) differently, while typically object LOD is treated the same regardless of what it depicts. The direction light is coming and its color affected how things look. https://dyndolod.info/Help/Grass-LOD#Settings In case the grass LOD brightness or color seems off (it might depend on weathers or ENB settings), try different Direct/Ambient settings for grass LOD billboards in TexGen. In addition or alternatively change the GrassBrightnessTop*/ComplexGrassBrightnessTop* and GrassBrightnessBottom*/ComplexGrassBrightnessBottom* settings in ..\DynDOLOD\Edit Scripts\DynDOLOD\DynDOLOD_SSE.ini - those settings help if the color tone is off. Especially the image based lighting effect from ENB has a big impact on the brightness and color tone of the grass LOD. Additional complex grass lighting and time of day settings will obviously not apply to object LOD, as they are separate meshes and shaders. Do not use them so full grass and grass LOD match better for all weathers/times. https://dyndolod.info/How-LOD-Works LOD does not cast or receive shadows. This can be mitigated by the ENB distant shadow effect or Screen-Space Shadows. https://dyndolod.info/Help/Grass-LOD#Internal-Billboards-and-External-Billboards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash19256 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 The LODGenx64Win.exe file from the archive download is being flagged as infected by Bitdefender antivirus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheson Posted June 12 Author Share Posted June 12 1 hour ago, Ash19256 said: The LODGenx64Win.exe file from the archive download is being flagged as infected by Bitdefender antivirus. https://dyndolod.info/FAQ#Virus Nexus automatically scans every upload. Look for the green/blue circle checkmark for each file on the files tab. Check with https://www.virustotal.com to rule out false positives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasquatch678 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Keep getting this error message when running Dyndolod. The page that pops up has no additional information or help explaining the error. https://imgur.com/kYopadb Things I have tried: -restarting my pc -reinstalling Dyndolod -rerunning xLodgen and Texgen -adding Dyndolod, Lodgen, and Texgen as exclusions in Windows Defender I was running Dyndolod a few days ago and it worked fine. No changes have been made to my mod list, other than textures. Dyndolod will initially run fine, after ~13 minutes it will say waiting for Lodgen64 to run, then for ~15 minutes more nothing else will appear in the log. Then this message appears. Additionally, no log is generated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheson Posted June 13 Author Share Posted June 13 2 hours ago, sasquatch678 said: Keep getting this error message when running Dyndolod. The page that pops up has no additional information or help explaining the error. https://imgur.com/kYopadb Things I have tried: -restarting my pc -reinstalling Dyndolod -rerunning xLodgen and Texgen -adding Dyndolod, Lodgen, and Texgen as exclusions in Windows Defender I was running Dyndolod a few days ago and it worked fine. No changes have been made to my mod list, other than textures. Dyndolod will initially run fine, after ~13 minutes it will say waiting for Lodgen64 to run, then for ~15 minutes more nothing else will appear in the log. Then this message appears. Additionally, no log is generated. Read the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs which DynDOLOD log, debug log and bugrport.txt (if it exists) to upload when making posts. Read https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs what to do in case there are no logs in the log folder to upload because the tool is being terminated prematurely. Do not post screenshots of messages, use the "Copy message to clipboard" link instead and paste the message, as explained in the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs Click onto the "Click on this link for additional explanations and help for this message" to open https://dyndolod.info/Messages/Exceptions for further help as explained in the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Read-Log-and-Error-Messages. See everything under "Access violation" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasquatch678 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) Edit: Nevermind, I see the problem plugin with ignored cells now. Please disregard. Okay, here is a copy/paste of the error message. [Window Title] DynDOLOD [Main Instruction] Access violation at address 0000000001279942 in module 'DynDOLODx64.exe'. [Content] Read of address 0000000000000000. Click on this link for additional explanations and help for this message For qualified help and advice or to report a problem make a post on the official DynDOLOD support forum. [OK] [Exit DynDOLOD] [Footer] Online Help | Support Forum | Copy message to clipboard And here are the logs. https://ufile.io/f/97fo5 Each time I run Dyndolod it gets to "Waiting for LODGenx64Win.exe generating object LOD for Tamriel." then around 15 minutes later terminates with the above error message. I am using the x64 version. I am not using an antivirus other than Windows Defender, and Texgen, Lodgen and Dyndolod are all set as exceptions. I have 32gb of RAM and the usage is not particularly high while this occurs, averaging around 70% Edited June 14 by sasquatch678 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someguyidk Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 I'm trying to use TexGen64 for my FO4 modlist. I am getting this error when I try to utilize the program. Spoiler Using Fallout4 Data Path: E:\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\ Using Scripts Path: E:\DynDOLOD\Edit Scripts\ Using Temp Path: C:\Users\xxxxx\AppData\Local\Temp\TexGen_FO4\ Using Output Path: E:\DynDOLOD\TexGen_Output\ Using ini: C:\Users\xxxxx\Documents\My Games\Fallout4\Fallout4.ini Using custom ini: C:\Users\xxxxx\Documents\My Games\Fallout4\Fallout4Custom.ini Using save path: C:\Users\xxxxx\Documents\My Games\Fallout4\Saves\ Using Creation Club Content list: E:\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Fallout4.ccc Using plugin list: C:\Users\xxxxx\AppData\Local\Fallout4\Plugins.txt Using settings file: E:\DynDOLOD\Edit Scripts\DynDOLOD\TexGen.ini Using language: En Using general string encoding: 1252 (ANSI - Latin I) Using translatable string encoding: 1252 (ANSI - Latin I) Using VMAD string encoding: 65001 (UTF-8) Loading active plugin list: C:\Users\xxxxx\AppData\Local\Fallout4\Plugins.txt [00:00] Background Loader: starting... [00:00] Background Loader: [Fallout4 - Textures1.ba2] Loading Resources. [00:00] Background Loader: Fatal: <Exception: Unknown archive version 0x00000007> [00:00] Background Loader: finished I am using the rolled back version 1.10.163 for my playthrough. Game runs fine so I'm not sure why it is saying unknown archive version. Any help is appreciated. I've used your tools many times for Skyrim but this is my first time trying them in Fallout 4. Thanks for the great tools! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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