DynDOLOD 3.00 Alpha 190

[sheson]

  On 2/17/2025 at 12:56 PM, PRieST said:

Haven't seen any conflicts in my whole loadorder. And es said before, wasn't mentioned with earliere versions of xEdit/DynDOLOD.

Oh, thaught it was mentioned in that one, too.

I'll take a look myself and if I need further guidance I'll ask again.

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I suggest to ask about those on the xEdit discord.

[PRieST]

  On 2/17/2025 at 1:09 PM, sheson said:

I suggest to ask about those on the xEdit discord.

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Thaught the same as you confirmed it will not cause any LOD related issues. Thanks.

[CarlWG2]

  On 2/17/2025 at 7:42 AM, sheson said:

The crash log indicates a problem with an NPC (and their hair physics?) probably related SKEE64.DLL (from Racemenu). The NPCs happen to be in a cell which DynDOLOD.esp and Occlusion.esp are the last plugins to overwrite.

Troubleshoot and fix the CTDs that happen without DynDOLOD in the load order. No crash log without DynDOLOD in the load order was provided for comparison.

Test without SKEE64.dll / Racemenu.
Test with a new game. If it only happens while load existing saves. it might be related to racemenu data in the save  and/or SKSE co-save.
You can clean (most of) the data of mods from the save and co save by temporarily disabling the mod and making a new save.

Make sure to check comments/forum related to Racemenu and hair physics mods for similar reports, updates etc.

Check NPC 0x00013B9B in xEdit and the involved plugins overwriting/patching it.
Skyrim.esm -> unofficial skyrim special edition patch.esp -> cutting room floor.esp -> AI Overhaul.esp -> PAN_NPCs.esp -> AI Overhaul - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp -> Olfina replacer.esp -> Bashed Patch, 0.esp -> Synthesis.esp

Once the CTD without DynDOLOD are fixed, generate LOD for that load order. In case there are CTDs with only DynDOLOD output activated, upload new logs and crash logs.

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Thank you for the quick response.

If desired, I can provide additional crash reports from this same save. I load the save, attack a guard in Whiterun, die, and then the game CTD on autoload. Each time the crashlog has different information. The one I posted happened to have Olfina, but the two tests I just did had different references to Stormcloak Soldiers and no reference to Olfina (all produced from same save...load, attack same Whiterun guard, die). As noted, if I uncheck "DynDOLOD is active" in the MCM, the crashing does not happen on autoload.

I'll do the following next:

1. I will try disabling Racemenu and the physics hair distribution mod I am using and then attempt to recreate the issue with a new character (as well as with the existing save used for the report I posted, cleaned as needed).
2. As requested, I'll also take a look in SSEEdit at Olfina to see if anything is unusual.
3. I will also attempt to get a crashlog from when DynDOLOD is disabled. That is harder to do as the game doesn't crash often when DynDOLOD is disabled/not installed.

I am leaving soon for a trip so my response will be delayed a few days. Thank you!

[sheson]

  On 2/17/2025 at 3:58 PM, CarlWG2 said:

Thank you for the quick response.

If desired, I can provide additional crash reports from this same save. I load the save, attack a guard in Whiterun, die, and then the game CTD on autoload. Each time the crashlog has different information. The one I posted happened to have Olfina, but the two tests I just did had different references to Stormcloak Soldiers and no reference to Olfina (all produced from same save...load, attack same Whiterun guard, die). As noted, if I uncheck "DynDOLOD is active" in the MCM, the crashing does not happen on autoload.

I'll do the following next:

1. I will try disabling Racemenu and the physics hair distribution mod I am using and then attempt to recreate the issue with a new character (as well as with the existing save used for the report I posted, cleaned as needed).
2. As requested, I'll also take a look in SSEEdit at Olfina to see if anything is unusual.
3. I will also attempt to get a crashlog from when DynDOLOD is disabled. That is harder to do as the game doesn't crash often when DynDOLOD is disabled/not installed.

I am leaving soon for a trip so my response will be delayed a few days. Thank you!

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Upload the other crash logs, also the one without DynDOLOD being active.
That would be the crash to fix first to rule out any interaction that would otherwise not happen. Remember, troubleshooting is to remove everything else that is not required for the issue to occur until only the required parts to remain.

When investigating crashes while DynDOLOD output is active, make sure it was generated for that exact load order.

If you want to troubleshoot crashes with DynDOLOD active further, test what happen if you just disable the DynDOLOD.DLL. Ignore any error messages in the game related to that and do whatever you do to trigger the crash to see if it has any affect. Based on that result we can try narrowing it down further.

Reply whenever you are ready, no probem.

[rustywd]

Recently added The Gray Cowl of Nocturnal - 10th Anniversary to my load order and since it adds a new world needed to re-run dyndolod 3, it had been a while since I last ran it so an update was required (DynDOLOD 3.0 Alpha-187). After updating it ran fine but there is something seriously wrong with Atlas maps (I think that is what you call them). In several areas the _n map is swapped with the color one. I am seeing this in several of them but not all, DynDOLOD_DLC2SolstheimWorld, DynDOLOD_Falskaar, DynDOLOD_MarkarthWorld, DynDOLOD_PalePass, DynDOLOD_Sovngarde, DynDOLOD_WyrmstoothWorld all have the issue, ironically the new ones that were added (not listed) do not have the issue. Here is the maps for DynDOLOD_DLC2SolstheimWorld, where you can clearly see the color and purple versions for a few objects are swapped and placed on the wrong map. Since none of those areas had any changes the only thing that changed for those was using the new dyndolod version. In game this results in the map showing purple like missing textures and distant lods doing the same.

https://imgur.com/a/OZ4EtdE

Been using Dyndoload for years and never had an issue previously, this is my first time posting so if I did it wrong, my apologies. Thanks!

[sheson]

  On 2/17/2025 at 5:46 PM, rustywd said:

Recently added The Gray Cowl of Nocturnal - 10th Anniversary to my load order and since it adds a new world needed to re-run dyndolod 3, it had been a while since I last ran it so an update was required (DynDOLOD 3.0 Alpha-187). After updating it ran fine but there is something seriously wrong with Atlas maps (I think that is what you call them). In several areas the _n map is swapped with the color one. I am seeing this in several of them but not all, DynDOLOD_DLC2SolstheimWorld, DynDOLOD_Falskaar, DynDOLOD_MarkarthWorld, DynDOLOD_PalePass, DynDOLOD_Sovngarde, DynDOLOD_WyrmstoothWorld all have the issue, ironically the new ones that were added (not listed) do not have the issue. Here is the maps for DynDOLOD_DLC2SolstheimWorld, where you can clearly see the color and purple versions for a few objects are swapped and placed on the wrong map. Since none of those areas had any changes the only thing that changed for those was using the new dyndolod version. In game this results in the map showing purple like missing textures and distant lods doing the same.

https://imgur.com/a/OZ4EtdE

Been using Dyndoload for years and never had an issue previously, this is my first time posting so if I did it wrong, my apologies. Thanks!

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I moved you post to a thread where we already seem to be dealing with the same issue.

See https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs which TexGen and DynDOLOD log and debug to upload.

Then, if possible try to identify at least one of the affected textures and check if the source textures which should be in the TexGen output are correct or already wrong. Assuming none of the LOD textures are from other mods.

[Zorcan]

Does it matter that in the most recent update to DyndoLOD, Alpha-187, that TexGen is still reporting as Alpha-186.  The DynDOLOD executeable is Alpha-187 but the accompanying TexGen executeable is Alpha-186.  Will that pose any issues?

[sheson]

  On 2/17/2025 at 6:24 PM, Zorcan said:

Does it matter that in the most recent update to DyndoLOD, Alpha-187, that TexGen is still reporting as Alpha-186.  The DynDOLOD executeable is Alpha-187 but the accompanying TexGen executeable is Alpha-186.  Will that pose any issues?

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No it won't cause any issue. The last update was for DynDOLOD only and I just forgot to update the TexGen version number. It will be the same version number again next alpha. 

[rustywd]

Here are the log files
https://ufile.io/f/d7qjm

Went through the TexGen outputs and did not see any instance of them being incorrect there, normal maps have _n and the diffuse maps do not, so that part seems fine. I have the outputs overriding everything else in MO2. 

[rustywd]

Just another observation, I tested running it twice without making any changes and get different results as shown in the First Pass and Second Pass images here, it looks like it not mapping them correctly as well as not having the right image type.

https://imgur.com/a/OZ4EtdE

Edited February 17 by rustywd

[sheson]

  On 2/17/2025 at 7:29 PM, rustywd said:

Here are the log files
https://ufile.io/f/d7qjm

Went through the TexGen outputs and did not see any instance of them being incorrect there, normal maps have _n and the diffuse maps do not, so that part seems fine. I have the outputs overriding everything else in MO2. 

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Check if this test version of DynDOLOD fixes it https://mega.nz/file/9RBwhB7A#Phv0FkY7MqncuumOQ_LHcitoM-rp-we9rU_lcOSIpLg
Report results. If issue persists upload new DynDOLOD logs.

[LF111]

  On 2/17/2025 at 1:07 PM, sheson said:

Check the data folder for the textures\lod\wrbuildingslod01.dds. It should be from the TexGen output.
Verify that the file in the data folder has the same filesize and modfied time as the file in the TexGen output mod, or better check their CRC32 to be equal (for example with the right 7zip CRC sha option if you have that installed for example.
It should not be blue. Upload both textures\lod\wrbuildingslod01.dds and wrbuildingslod01_n.dds if you want me to check.

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The file in the data folder has the same modified time as the TexGen output file and is the same size. Folder has been updated with the two files. Testing the test version now. 

Edited February 17 by LF111

[LF111]

  On 2/17/2025 at 7:46 PM, sheson said:

Check if this test version of DynDOLOD fixes it https://mega.nz/file/9RBwhB7A#Phv0FkY7MqncuumOQ_LHcitoM-rp-we9rU_lcOSIpLg
Report results. If issue persists upload new DynDOLOD logs.

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Test version has completely fixed the issue on my end. 

Do you still want me to start a new thread for the rock wall LOD texture issue, or should I just continue it here?

[sheson]

  On 2/17/2025 at 9:16 PM, LF111 said:

Test version has completely fixed the issue on my end. 

Do you still want me to start a new thread for the rock wall LOD texture issue, or should I just continue it here?

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That is great! Thanks.

Start a new thread with log as usual and a more informative screenshot of the full model, link to mod.

[rustywd]

The test version fixed the issue for me as well, excellent work, thanks you for all your hard work, much appreciated!