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Mousetick Emperor

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DynDOLOD 3a143 Test version for Parent > Child copies of references with dynamic LOD

I've completed my testing. Here's an updated checklist with some corrections to markers I got wrong the first time, and my annotations on the results:

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Remarks:

  • I had to disable collision to climb above walls or buildings for most of the verifications but always stayed within the city bounds.
  • For Markarth, it appears Parent > Child copies of dynamic references were made even though ScanParent=0 in DynDOLOD_SSE_childworld_MarkarthWorld.ini. This allowed me to test them, but the fact they were made seems like a bug?
  • Beside checking the references with enable parent above, I looked around the periphery of cities and everything looked OK. I didn't find anything visually broken.
  • I think I'm going to switch to NoCellsWithNAVM=0 for Riften next time, to get more trees directly behind the walls and fix the view towards the docks from the canal.
  • I found a small issue with a Cutting Room Floor house copy (object LOD, not dynamic LOD) in Whiterun but I need to investigate more before I can report the problem.

Next steps:

  • I'm going to regenerate the plugins with the update you uploaded this morning, and take a look at the initially disabled references.
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So, I did some digging in my files and I found where those files located! I will need to go back and reinstall "Cathedral Landscapes" and "Skyrim Realistic Overhaul" it looks like. https://ibb.co

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Probably within 0 to 4 weeks.

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At least now with the test version you provided you re-fixed everything again. Coding/programming is sometimes just a mysterious thing. Thank you for all your work you put into DynDOLOD - even if

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sheson Akatosh

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  On 9/6/2023 at 4:49 PM, Mousetick said:
  • For Markarth, it appears Parent > Child copies of dynamic references were made even though ScanParent=0 in DynDOLOD_SSE_childworld_MarkarthWorld.ini. This allowed me to test them, but the fact they were made seems like a bug?
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Upload the log and debug log to properly report the supposed bug.

Mousetick Emperor

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  On 9/6/2023 at 4:49 PM, Mousetick said:

I found a small issue with a Cutting Room Floor house copy (object LOD, not dynamic LOD) in Whiterun but I need to investigate more before I can report the problem

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So it's not really a DynDOLOD problem:

  • The house in question is located in Whiterun exterior (Tamriel).
  • It uses WRHouseWind01 [STAT:0003CDE3] as the base model, and WRDragonDoor01 [DOOR:000252C7] for its door. Both of which are normally found only inside Whiterun.
  • WRHouseWind01 [STAT:0003CDE3] has LOD but WRDragonDoor01 [DOOR:000252C7] doesn't.
  • So Parent > Child results in the house being copied to WhiterunWorld, but not the door.

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I guess one solution could be: Add a rule to give LOD to WRDragonDoor01 [DOOR:000252C7] but I'm worried the door LOD could clash with DynDOLOD Resources' LOD model for WRHouseWind01 [STAT:0003CDE3], which already has the door built-in.

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sheson Akatosh

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  On 9/6/2023 at 4:08 PM, redshift87 said:

After the very first run, I added my personal custom rules (mostly for mods that don't have LOD objects like Eli's Skaal Village and to remove LOD for a few plants I don't care to see). I'll include my preset file that has those custom rules just in case it's helpful. I have been using those same rules for quite awhile now.

Tried again with the new .exe you provided and got a range check error this time. Oddly, my log file did not update but debug file did:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/xq3q5yjfop0ms7shsb5ob/logs2.7z?rlkey=o3rrmoxduds0z3tmc9nv2g9vg&dl=0

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Check if this test version runs through https://mega.nz/file/VI5TVDCS#r8EsTQqlIQ_8_3O5XdTrpv2lYbiOnBdD2tBINSEKfT4
If not upload new log, debug log and bugreport.txt  if it exists.

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  On 9/7/2023 at 3:15 AM, Mousetick said:

Over there: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HBzSJ56QkptARN150kduGita9awnWx77/view

Attempting to run the latest test version uploaded to Mega produces a Range Check exception. Logs: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TeIv02YR4GZGDV1uydPJL2d_03fuvRYZ/view

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This test version should fix scanning Markarth with ScanParent=0 https://mega.nz/file/VI5TVDCS#r8EsTQqlIQ_8_3O5XdTrpv2lYbiOnBdD2tBINSEKfT4

Is the range error 100% repeatable?

Lavitz Citizen

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Hey All.

I'm getting this TexGen error  

Error: File not found textures\landscape\snow01landscape_n.dds.

I get no more info than this line, most errors at least tell you what mod it is in relation to as far as I've seen before.

I don't know what this is about as I've never had it come up before, I don't have any mods installed that cover this texture so I've no idea what this is about, It's almost like its missing from the vanilla game files too, otherwise TexGen would have fallen back on that file or am I wrong?

Losing my mind over this as i can't find any ref online to this specific texture.

sheson Akatosh

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  On 9/7/2023 at 9:45 PM, Lavitz said:

Hey All.

I'm getting this TexGen error  

Error: File not found textures\landscape\snow01landscape_n.dds.

I get no more info than this line, most errors at least tell you what mod it is in relation to as far as I've seen before.

I don't know what this is about as I've never had it come up before, I don't have any mods installed that cover this texture so I've no idea what this is about, It's almost like its missing from the vanilla game files too, otherwise TexGen would have fallen back on that file or am I wrong?

Losing my mind over this as i can't find any ref online to this specific texture.

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Moved to the DynDOLOD 3 Alpha forum. Read the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum which TexGen log and debug log to upload when making posts.

Mousetick Emperor

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Fix for scanning Markarth with ScanParent=0 confirmed in new test version.

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So I'm peering through the DynDOLOD plugins and identifying the initially disabled references that would need testing. Houston, we have another problem :) 

We forgot about the opposite scenario: a reference with dynamic LOD is initially enabled, then disabled later in-game. The child copy remains perpetually enabled.

For example, the Solitude Lighthouse fire:

  • [REFR:0007526C] (places SlighthouseActivator [ACTI:000622F0])
  • [REFR:00062832] (places SlighthouseFireOff [STAT:0001A0B4])

These 2 references are not linked together by an Enable Parent, they're toggled independently. Here's the bit of Papyrus code that does it, during the related quest: 

;BEGIN FRAGMENT Fragment_14
Function Fragment_14()
;BEGIN CODE
alias_MS07LighthouseFireOff.GetRef().enable()
alias_MS07LighthouseFire.GetRef().Disable()
[...]

alias_MS07LighthouseFire.GetRef().Disable() is not going to affect the child copy: 

skyrimesm_07526C_SolitudeWorld_DynDOLOD_PARENT_DynDOLOD_NOLOD [REFR:5908ED4A] (places SlighthouseActivator "Solitude Lighthouse Fire" [ACTI:000622F0])

remains enabled.

Possible solution: extend the previous solution of linking the child copy to the parent reference via Enable Parent, to all copies of references with dynamic LOD.

As discussed before, this requires the parent reference to be persistent, but that theoretical limitation should have no impact in practice for references that are toggled via script, as they must already be persistent.

Thanks.

sheson Akatosh

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  On 9/8/2023 at 7:53 AM, Mousetick said:

DynDOLOD 3a143 Test version for Parent > Child copies of references with dynamic LOD

Fix for scanning Markarth with ScanParent=0 confirmed in new test version.

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So I'm peering through the DynDOLOD plugins and identifying the initially disabled references that would need testing. Houston, we have another problem :) 

We forgot about the opposite scenario: a reference with dynamic LOD is initially enabled, then disabled later in-game. The child copy remains perpetually enabled.

For example, the Solitude Lighthouse fire:

  • [REFR:0007526C] (places SlighthouseActivator [ACTI:000622F0])
  • [REFR:00062832] (places SlighthouseFireOff [STAT:0001A0B4])

These 2 references are not linked together by an Enable Parent, they're toggled independently. Here's the bit of Papyrus code that does it, during the related quest: 

;BEGIN FRAGMENT Fragment_14
Function Fragment_14()
;BEGIN CODE
alias_MS07LighthouseFireOff.GetRef().enable()
alias_MS07LighthouseFire.GetRef().Disable()
[...]

alias_MS07LighthouseFire.GetRef().Disable() is not going to affect the child copy: 

skyrimesm_07526C_SolitudeWorld_DynDOLOD_PARENT_DynDOLOD_NOLOD [REFR:5908ED4A] (places SlighthouseActivator "Solitude Lighthouse Fire" [ACTI:000622F0])

remains enabled.

Possible solution: extend the previous solution of linking the child copy to the parent reference via Enable Parent, to all copies of references with dynamic LOD.

As discussed before, this requires the parent reference to be persistent, but that theoretical limitation should have no impact in practice for references that are toggled via script, as they must already be persistent.

Thanks.

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This test version https://mega.nz/file/sMQk3LDT#1g6LdrN5Pw90QmesBCmB1N5vwj7ZhM-CPw32s9v2a0o removes the IsInitiallyDisabled condition. So if the source reference is persistent and has no enabled parent itself, it is used as enable parent for the copy.

Lavitz Citizen

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Hey All.

I'm getting this TexGen error  

Error: File not found textures\landscape\snow01landscape_n.dds.

I get no more info than this line, most errors at least tell you what mod/file it is in relation to as far as I've seen before.

I don't know what this is about as I've never had it come up before, I don't have any mods installed that cover this texture so I've no idea what this is about, It's almost like its missing from the vanilla game files too, otherwise TexGen would have fallen back on that file or am I wrong?

Losing my mind over this as I can't find any ref online to this specific texture.

sheson Akatosh

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  On 9/8/2023 at 6:03 PM, Lavitz said:

Hey All.

I'm getting this TexGen error  

Error: File not found textures\landscape\snow01landscape_n.dds.

I get no more info than this line, most errors at least tell you what mod/file it is in relation to as far as I've seen before.

I don't know what this is about as I've never had it come up before, I don't have any mods installed that cover this texture so I've no idea what this is about, It's almost like its missing from the vanilla game files too, otherwise TexGen would have fallen back on that file or am I wrong?

Losing my mind over this as I can't find any ref online to this specific texture.

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Moved to the DynDLOD 3 Alpha thread. You already posted this before. See https://stepmodifications.org/forum/topic/17510-dyndolod-300-alpha-142/?do=findComment&comment=274141

It is pretty much guaranteed that the requested log files contain more than that line.

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  On 9/8/2023 at 6:13 PM, sheson said:

Moved to the DynDLOD 3 Alpha thread. You already posted this before. See 

 

It is pretty much guaranteed that the requested log files contain more than that line.

 

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Apologies for double posting, I've gone back to read the first post and attached the requested files.

Can't find ..\DynDOLOD\bugreport.txt, not there.

Let me know if this I'snt the correct info, I appreciate your time on this matter.

https://ufile.io/lhheuelr TexGen_TES5_Debug_log.txt

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