sheson Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 hour ago, blueetenicolet said: I regenerate LOD for Tamriel only (With Large Reference Bugs Workarounds), and repeat what i do in sample video, the bug stil happends. Upload the log and debug log for that generation and the papyrus log. You mean doing the exact same thing in the vigilant worldspace, right? Can you find anything similar with a vanilla quest in the Tamriel worldspace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueetenicolet Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, sheson said: Upload the log and debug log for that generation and the papyrus log. You mean doing the exact same thing in the vigilant worldspace, right? Can you find anything similar with a vanilla quest in the Tamriel worldspace? Well the log and debuglog has been overwrited by a non-Large Reference Bugs Workaround generation, i will generate with Large Reference Bugs Workaround again and repeat that, then upload the log. Yes exactly same thing in vigilant worldspace. Sorry i can only confirm two quests that have this bug, because it is impossible for me to save and reload the game every time I receive a quest while playing. The one is dawnguard quest, DLC1 VQ07 touch the sky, in interior Ancestor Glade, after you read the elder scroll, you will got the quest, and a marker point to Darkfall Cave will display on compass and map, but it will disaapear if you save the game and read, like that in sample video. The other is that in sample video. They're both not in Tamriel world i think. Edited January 2, 2023 by blueetenicolet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueetenicolet Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) Here's the log: Mega Edited January 2, 2023 by blueetenicolet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheson Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 18 minutes ago, blueetenicolet said: Well the log and debuglog has been overwrited by a non-Large Reference Bugs Workaround generation, i will generate with Large Reference Bugs Workaround again and repeat that, then upload the log. Yes exactly same thing in vigilant worldspace. Sorry i can only confirm two quests that have this bug, because it is impossible for me to save and reload the game every time I receive a quest while playing. The one is dawnguard quest, DLC1 VQ07 touch the sky, in interior Ancestor Glade, after you read the elder scroll, you will got the quest, and a marker point to Darkfall Cave will display on compass and map, but it will disaapear if you save the game and read, like that in sample video. The other is that in sample video. They're both not in Tamriel world i think. If you have a case where it happens, test if there is anything different with this non NG DynDOLOD DLL https://mega.nz/file/lcZgFKjB#LQRHlKnI4c3W8DPPv6QDOsAXg6SzfY7cq6mV--Rg4rg for 1.5.97 specifically. Just replace the DynDOLOD.DLL only and then do the same tests. If it also happens with this DLL, upload DynDOLOD.log from the SKSE log folder and the papyrus log as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueetenicolet Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Still happens. DynDOLOD.log Papyrus.0.log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheson Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 12 hours ago, Anubis said: So, CTD sorted out. (don't know why it happened in the first place though) I have another thing to fix - it's about grass lod. I created the cache and followed the instructions. 1. Do I need the Grass cache folder active in my load order. If yes, then why ? 2. Although (I think) I followed the instructions to the letter, I get weird patches of grass on the lod. The lod is still mostly barren, with only small patches of certain grass. How to make it so that the whole lod is covered ? https://imgur.com/qB4CIim Close-up view using TFC command: https://imgur.com/n3xkfyB Read the first post which log and debug log to upload when making posts. The grass cache is/can be used by NGIO. It saves the engine from generating grass every time new cells are loaded. https://dyndolod.info/Help/Grass-LOD#Not-all-grass-types-have-LOD-grass-LOD-billboards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueetenicolet Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 hour ago, sheson said: If you have a case where it happens, test if there is anything different with this non NG DynDOLOD DLL https://mega.nz/file/lcZgFKjB#LQRHlKnI4c3W8DPPv6QDOsAXg6SzfY7cq6mV--Rg4rg for 1.5.97 specifically. Just replace the DynDOLOD.DLL only and then do the same tests. If it also happens with this DLL, upload DynDOLOD.log from the SKSE log folder and the papyrus log as well. Test1: I delete the scripts in DynDOLOD-DLL-NG Scripts.3.00-Alpha-1, leave the dll only (DynDOLOD Resources still enabled) to test, a message shows: DynDOLOD papyrus scripts are the wrong version (as expected）. The bug still happen. Both the NG DLL and SE DLL. Test2: This time i disabled the DynDOLOD Resources too, test with the DLL only, bug still happens. Both the NG DLL and SE DLL. LOGS02.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheson Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 18 minutes ago, blueetenicolet said: Test1: I delete the scripts in DynDOLOD-DLL-NG Scripts.3.00-Alpha-1, leave the dll only (DynDOLOD Resources still enabled) to test, a message shows: DynDOLOD papyrus scripts are the wrong version (as expected）. The bug still happen. Both the NG DLL and SE DLL. Test2: This time i disabled the DynDOLOD Resources too, test with the DLL only, bug still happens. Both the NG DLL and SE DLL. LOGS02.zip 267.24 kB · 0 downloads What happens without any DLL and without DynDOLOD Resources? If it still happens, does it happen with only DynDOLOD.esm but without DynDOLOD.esp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueetenicolet Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, sheson said: What happens without any DLL and without DynDOLOD Resources? If it still happens, does it happen with only DynDOLOD.esm but without DynDOLOD.esp? Resources ✔ DLL✔ -- bug Happend Resources ✔ DLL✖ -- NO bug Resources ✖ DLL✔ -- bug Happend Resources ✖ DLL✖ -- NO bug when Resources ✖ DLL(no scripts)✔ esm ✔ esp✔ -- bug Happend esm ✔ esp✖ -- bug Happend esm ✖ esp✖ -- NO bug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheson Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 39 minutes ago, blueetenicolet said: Resources ✔ DLL✔ -- bug Happend Resources ✔ DLL✖ -- NO bug Resources ✖ DLL✔ -- bug Happend Resources ✖ DLL✖ -- NO bug when Resources ✖ DLL(no scripts)✔ esm ✔ esp✔ -- bug Happend esm ✔ esp✖ -- bug Happend esm ✖ esp✖ -- NO bug So you are saying the bug happens with only DynDOLOD.esm and no DynDOLOD.esp, no DynDOLOD Resources and no DynDOLOD DLL scripts but with either DynDOLOD DLL NG or the test DLL. In that case, test what happens with this test DLL https://mega.nz/file/gch1lZxQ#-9LoOBIuOIpK8hhxMsXlFLatsSElo-1bl4E7Ipr-QKM Edit: Also upload the DynDOLOD.esm please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueetenicolet Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, sheson said: So you are saying the bug happens with only DynDOLOD.esm and DynDOLOD.esp, no DynDOLOD Resources and no DynDOLOD DLL scripts but with either DynDOLOD DLL NG or the test DLL. In that case, test what happens with this test DLL https://mega.nz/file/gch1lZxQ#-9LoOBIuOIpK8hhxMsXlFLatsSElo-1bl4E7Ipr-QKM Tested with DynDOLOD.esm and with/without DynDOLOD.esp, no bug happened. Enable Resources and DLL scripts, DynDOLOD.esm,DynDOLOD.esp, test again, bug won't happend. Seems this test DLL have no problem. Good job! P.S : I test with dawnguard quest Touch The Sky again, also no bug here. NICE! Edited January 2, 2023 by blueetenicolet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueetenicolet Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Here's the ESM file DynDOLOD.esm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheson Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 hours ago, blueetenicolet said: Here's the ESM file DynDOLOD.esm 2.33 MB · 1 download Add WorshipperACTI=0 under [DynDOLOD] in ..\DynDOLOD\Edit Scripts\DynDOLOD\DynDOLOD_SSE.ini, generate new DynDOLOD output and check if it makes a difference with the DynDOLOD DLL NG and Scripts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueetenicolet Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, sheson said: Add WorshipperACTI=0 under [DynDOLOD] in ..\DynDOLOD\Edit Scripts\DynDOLOD\DynDOLOD_SSE.ini, generate new DynDOLOD output and check if it makes a difference with the DynDOLOD DLL NG and Scripts. Tested. The bug will not happened on the new generation. Edited January 2, 2023 by blueetenicolet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheson Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 44 minutes ago, blueetenicolet said: Tested. The bug will not happened on the new generation. Thank you for all the tests. Will use that setting as default for the next version to avoid the issues in the future. Still unclear why that would affect completely unrelated records that are no even part of the DynDOLOD plugins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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