Nagrom Posted November 19, 2020 Posted November 19, 2020 (edited) Hi All. This is my first post here so be gentle. I've been following the STEP guide to the letter as far as I know. As soon as I start the game and go to new game I get a CTD. I've tracked down the culprit to Alternate Start as when I turn off the mod it works perfectly. This I find baffling as I've used AS for years. I know this isn't a major issue as I can just play the vanilla start. However I am worried that there could be another underlying issue. This test was done before any LOD's were generated, as the first test run. My LOOT sorted load order is as follows. Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmDawnguard.esmHearthFires.esmDragonborn.esmUnofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.espSkyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esmFISS.espUHDAP - MusicHQ.espUHDAP - en0.espUHDAP - en1.espUHDAP - en2.espUHDAP - en3.espUHDAP - en4.espMajesticMountains_Landscape.esmLandscape and Water Fixes.espAHZmoreHUD.eslAHZmoreHUDInventory.eslBetterContainerControls.eslLanterns Of Skyrim II.esmMajesticMountains_Moss.espRealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esmFarmhouseChimneys.espSkyUI_SE.espButterflies.espSkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.espHearthfires Houses Building Fix.espUnlimitedBookshelves.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main LITE.espGQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.espSMIM-SE-Merged-All.espAudio Overhaul Skyrim.espGildergreen Regrown.espaMidianBorn_Book of Silence.espBetter Dynamic Snow.espMajesticMountains.espCathedral Landscapes.espBetter Dynamic Ash.espBetter Dynamic Snow - Snowy Farmhouses.espRelightingSkyrim_SSE.espRelationship Dialogue Overhaul.espSmoothShores.espLandscape Fixes For Grass Mods.espCutting Room Floor.espBook Covers Skyrim.espDeadlySpellImpacts.espFrost Meshes Patch.espDustEffectsSSE.espElemental_Staffs.espEnhanced Vanilla Trees SSE.espFootprints.espSavage Skyrim Std.espHD Stone Quarry and Clay Deposits SE.espSparklesSE.espSkygazerMoonsSize.espORM-Arvak.espFantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.espFantasy Soundtrack Project.espIHSS.espBeards.espBrows.espCommunityOverlays1_0T30.espCommunityOverlays2_31T50.espCommunityOverlays3.espDalish_Vallaslin.espNB-Scars.espVWA_VanillaWarpaintsAbsolution.espCrittersAintSnitches.espDragon Stalking Fix.espLandscape and Water Fixes - Patch - Relighting Skyrim.espReasonableMovementSpeed.espWaterbreathing Breathless Emerge SSE.espGIST soul trap.espRUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted - GIST.espAI Overhaul.espRealistic Boat Bobbing.espGuard Dialogue Overhaul.espWeapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.espLuxuriousPickaxes.espClavicusArgonianMasque.espimp_helm_legend.espSPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.espBetterQuestObjectives.espaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.espBetter Stealth AI for Followers.espRealistic AI Detection 2 SE - Medium Interior, Medium Exterior.espSimple AUA.espTavernAIFix.espDisease Descriptions.espGoOnAhead.espPoint The Way.espSnotgurg Simple Drop Lit Torches.espTorches Ignite Oil - Shock Edition.espBetterQuestObjectives - BCS Patch.espOakwood.espThieves Guild Requirements.espTheChoiceIsYours.espRun For Your Lives.espEmbersHD.espBetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.espBetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.espBetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.espTimingIsEverything.espOblivion Gates Remade.espBring Out Your Dead.espBook Covers Skyrim - Lost Library.espHelarchen Creek.espConvenient Horses.espLandscape Fixes For Grass mods - Cutting Room Floor Locations.espLandscape For Grass Mods - Oakwood PATCH.espPilgrimsDelight.espNotSoFast-MainQuest.espThe Paarthurnax Dilemma.espBetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.espLoS II - Oakwood patch.espLoS II - Helarchen Creek patch.espNotSoFast-MageGuild.espLoS II - SMIM patch.espRBB - Oakwood Patch.espRBB - USSEP Patch.espOblivion Gates Remade - Map Markers.espChesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.espiHUD.espRaceMenu.espXPMSE.espRaceMenuPlugin.espViewableFactionRanks.espCathedral Weathers.espgetSnowy.espCathedralWeatherMCM.espFNIS.espOblivion Gates Remade - Mountain Texture with MM Shader.espStormLightning.espWondersofWeather.espBDS - MM Patch.espCutting Room Floor - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.espCutting Room Floor - Relationship Dialogue Overhaul Patch.espHelarchen Creek - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.espImprovedClosefacedHelmets_WACCF.espTCIY_CRF_Patch.espThe Choice is Yours - WACCF Consistency Patch.espWACCF - CRF Consistency Patch.espLRR - Alternative - by LeonardoTrote.espDragonShoutVoice.espLock_Overhaul.espOrdinator_WACCF_Patch.espGIST-RusticSoulGems-patch.espTrade & Barter.espComplete Crafting Overhaul_Remastered.espSmithing Perks Overhaul SE.espCCOR_Ordinator.espComplete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.espButterfliesUnchained.espButterfliesUnchained(ESL) - CACO Patch.espComplete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul_CCOR_Patch.espCACO_USSEP_Patch.espCACO_Ordinator_Patch.espBetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.espLandscape Fixes For Grass mods - Alternate start Locations.espLuminosity Lighting Overhaul.espRealisticWaterTwo.espStep Skyrim SE - CR Patch.espRealistic Water Two - Landscape For Grass Mods Patch.espSTEP Skyrim SE - L&W Patch.espModern Brawl Bug Fix.esp Has anyone else encountered this issue? if so how did you fix it? Thanks in advance. Andy. Edited November 21, 2020 by Greg Added spoiler tags
Greg Posted November 20, 2020 Posted November 20, 2020 Have you tried the vanilla start with Alternate Start: Live Another Life? I doubt Alternate Start is the cause of the CTD. It's more likely missing meshes or something in one of the other mods and the selected start just happens to put you in the area that's causing the crash. You might start by verifying the LOD resources are installed correctly and the LOD generation at the end is good. If you're still experiencing issues, go back through the guide again to verify all mods are installed correctly.
Nagrom Posted November 20, 2020 Author Posted November 20, 2020 Short answer is no. I've not tried the vanilla launch via Alternate Start as I can't get the game to run with AS turned on. This is the first modded launch recommended at the end of stage 4 of the guide. This is BEFORE any LOD's are generated. As that's the next stage. With AS switched on I: - 1. Run the game.2. Select NEW3. Get the black screen with the smoke and the level 1 progress bar in the top right of the screen. There is NO image of Aldiun on the Word Wall like there should be at the start of the game.4. Then it crashes....... With Alternate Start turned off EVERYTHING runs fine. The game starts and I get the Aldiun image as per normal. I've even turned off the two mod patches that require AS to see if there was an issue with them. These are better quest objectives and Landscape fixes for grass mods. It seems clear that there's an issue with AS.Though it isn't recommended, would Skyrim Unbound be a workable alternative? Thanks again.
Mercury71 Posted November 20, 2020 Posted November 20, 2020 There seem to be some mods not from the guide in your load order, or am i wrong?Savage Skyrim for example, some tatoo mod also. Have you checked them with xEdit for conflicts with the rest of the mods.Alternate start works just fine if the guide is installed as is. Ther must a conflict with an added mod or maby some of the guide mod not installed as in the guide.
Nagrom Posted November 21, 2020 Author Posted November 21, 2020 Yeah I forgot to remove them. I was experimenting with other mods. They've been disabled now and as far as I can tell everything in my mod list is identical to the guide. However I'm still getting a CTD at the same point. Very baffling.If this is only an error when starting a new game it's something I can live with. I've tested Skyrim Unbound and this seems to work fine. Thanks.
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