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Hi All.

 

This is my first post here so be gentle.

 

I've been following the STEP guide to the letter as far as I know. As soon as I start the game and go to new game I get a CTD.

 

I've tracked down the culprit to Alternate Start as when I turn off the mod it works perfectly. This I find baffling as I've used AS for years.

 

I know this isn't a major issue as I can just play the vanilla start. However I am worried that there could be another underlying issue.

 

This test was done before any LOD's were generated, as the first test run.

 

My LOOT sorted load order is as follows.

 

 

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
FISS.esp
UHDAP - MusicHQ.esp
UHDAP - en0.esp
UHDAP - en1.esp
UHDAP - en2.esp
UHDAP - en3.esp
UHDAP - en4.esp
MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm
Landscape and Water Fixes.esp
AHZmoreHUD.esl
AHZmoreHUDInventory.esl
BetterContainerControls.esl
Lanterns Of Skyrim II.esm
MajesticMountains_Moss.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm
FarmhouseChimneys.esp
SkyUI_SE.esp
Butterflies.esp
SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp
Hearthfires Houses Building Fix.esp
UnlimitedBookshelves.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main LITE.esp
GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp
Gildergreen Regrown.esp
aMidianBorn_Book of Silence.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
MajesticMountains.esp
Cathedral Landscapes.esp
Better Dynamic Ash.esp
Better Dynamic Snow - Snowy Farmhouses.esp
RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
SmoothShores.esp
Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
Frost Meshes Patch.esp
DustEffectsSSE.esp
Elemental_Staffs.esp
Enhanced Vanilla Trees SSE.esp
Footprints.esp
Savage Skyrim Std.esp
HD Stone Quarry and Clay Deposits SE.esp
SparklesSE.esp
SkygazerMoonsSize.esp
ORM-Arvak.esp
Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp
Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp
IHSS.esp
Beards.esp
Brows.esp
CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp
CommunityOverlays2_31T50.esp
CommunityOverlays3.esp
Dalish_Vallaslin.esp
NB-Scars.esp
VWA_VanillaWarpaintsAbsolution.esp
CrittersAintSnitches.esp
Dragon Stalking Fix.esp
Landscape and Water Fixes - Patch - Relighting Skyrim.esp
ReasonableMovementSpeed.esp
Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge SSE.esp
GIST soul trap.esp
RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted - GIST.esp
AI Overhaul.esp
Realistic Boat Bobbing.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
LuxuriousPickaxes.esp
ClavicusArgonianMasque.esp
imp_helm_legend.esp
SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp
Realistic AI Detection 2 SE - Medium Interior, Medium Exterior.esp
Simple AUA.esp
TavernAIFix.esp
Disease Descriptions.esp
GoOnAhead.esp
Point The Way.esp
Snotgurg Simple Drop Lit Torches.esp
Torches Ignite Oil - Shock Edition.esp
BetterQuestObjectives - BCS Patch.esp
Oakwood.esp
Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
EmbersHD.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
TimingIsEverything.esp
Oblivion Gates Remade.esp
Bring Out Your Dead.esp
Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library.esp
Helarchen Creek.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Cutting Room Floor Locations.esp
Landscape For Grass Mods - Oakwood PATCH.esp
PilgrimsDelight.esp
NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
LoS II - Oakwood patch.esp
LoS II - Helarchen Creek patch.esp
NotSoFast-MageGuild.esp
LoS II - SMIM patch.esp
RBB - Oakwood Patch.esp
RBB - USSEP Patch.esp
Oblivion Gates Remade - Map Markers.esp
Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
iHUD.esp
RaceMenu.esp
XPMSE.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
ViewableFactionRanks.esp
Cathedral Weathers.esp
getSnowy.esp
CathedralWeatherMCM.esp
FNIS.esp
Oblivion Gates Remade - Mountain Texture with MM Shader.esp
StormLightning.esp
WondersofWeather.esp
BDS - MM Patch.esp
Cutting Room Floor - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp
Cutting Room Floor - Relationship Dialogue Overhaul Patch.esp
Helarchen Creek - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp
ImprovedClosefacedHelmets_WACCF.esp
TCIY_CRF_Patch.esp
The Choice is Yours - WACCF Consistency Patch.esp
WACCF - CRF Consistency Patch.esp
LRR - Alternative - by LeonardoTrote.esp
DragonShoutVoice.esp
Lock_Overhaul.esp
Ordinator_WACCF_Patch.esp
GIST-RusticSoulGems-patch.esp
Trade & Barter.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remastered.esp
Smithing Perks Overhaul SE.esp
CCOR_Ordinator.esp
Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
ButterfliesUnchained.esp
ButterfliesUnchained(ESL) - CACO Patch.esp
Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul_CCOR_Patch.esp
CACO_USSEP_Patch.esp
CACO_Ordinator_Patch.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Alternate start Locations.esp
Luminosity Lighting Overhaul.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
Step Skyrim SE - CR Patch.esp
Realistic Water Two - Landscape For Grass Mods Patch.esp
STEP Skyrim SE - L&W Patch.esp
Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp

 
Has anyone else encountered this issue? if so how did you fix it?
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Andy.
Edited by Greg
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Posted

Have you tried the vanilla start with Alternate Start: Live Another Life? I doubt Alternate Start is the cause of the CTD. It's more likely missing meshes or something in one of the other mods and the selected start just happens to put you in the area that's causing the crash. You might start by verifying the LOD resources are installed correctly and the LOD generation at the end is good. If you're still experiencing issues, go back through the guide again to verify all mods are installed correctly.

Posted

Short answer is no. I've not tried the vanilla launch via Alternate Start as I can't get the game to run with AS turned on.

 

This is the first modded launch recommended at the end of stage 4 of the guide. This is BEFORE any LOD's are generated. As that's the next stage.

 

With AS switched on I: -

 

1. Run the game.

2. Select NEW

3. Get the black screen with the smoke and the level 1 progress bar in the top right of the screen. There is NO image of Aldiun on the Word Wall like there should be at the start of the game.

4. Then it crashes.......

 

With Alternate Start turned off EVERYTHING runs fine. The game starts and I get the Aldiun image as per normal. 

I've even turned off the two mod patches that require AS to see if there was an issue with them. These are better quest objectives and Landscape fixes for grass mods.

 

It seems clear that there's an issue with AS.

Though it isn't recommended, would Skyrim Unbound be a workable alternative?

 

Thanks again.

Posted

There seem to be some mods not from the guide in your load order, or am i wrong?

Savage Skyrim for example, some tatoo mod also. Have you checked them with xEdit for conflicts with the rest of the mods.

Alternate start works just fine if the guide is installed as is. Ther must a conflict with an added mod or maby some of the guide mod not installed as in the guide.

Posted

Yeah I forgot to remove them. I was experimenting with other mods. They've been disabled now and as far as I can tell everything in my mod list is identical to the guide. However I'm still getting a CTD at the same point. Very baffling.

If this is only an error when starting a new game it's something I can live with. I've tested Skyrim Unbound and this seems to work fine.

 

Thanks.

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