Skyrim Revisited Pre-Release Feedback

[Pretendeavor]

Also, it works fine with the perk overhauls, such as Sperg, Ace, Skyre, etc..., as it was recently updated to only add the perks from a predefined set of esps.  By default these are only the vanilla perks.

Ah, I think I missed that. Perhaps I'll try using the perk option too then :p

[thorgal]

When it says to install the mods from the REGS pack after your last installed mod , do they mean after the Moonlight tales mod and before the compatibility patches 

 

or 

 

install those after the SR patch File ?

[afonik]

 

  Keep in mind that you'll need to drop Dual Wield Parrying to get the most out of Action Combat.

The author said he tested Action Combat with old versions of DWP and that it worked fine:

"I just tested it with Dual Wield Parrying Random Attacks Dawnguard 2_50 and it actually worked fine. "

source proski post: https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/2596654-action-combat/?p=23607459

Edited June 17, 2015 by afonik

[thorgal]

I am confused about this part in the REGS - SRLE Special Instructions & Compatibility Guide :

 

Realistic Room Rental Enhanced

• You already installed RRRE with SRLE. Completely remove this mod from your install list in MO.
• Run the RRRE installer again.
• Select both the ELFX patch and the 3DNPC patch in the installer.

 

 

Does this mean  i delete the mod entirly from my modlist and then re install it  in this new location in the  the REGS  mod list ? 

Edited June 18, 2015 by thorgal

[Nozzer66]

Yes.

[Nearox]

I am confused about this part in the REGS - SRLE Special Instructions & Compatibility Guide :

 

Realistic Room Rental Enhanced

• You already installed RRRE with SRLE. Completely remove this mod from your install list in MO.
• Run the RRRE installer again.
• Select both the ELFX patch and the 3DNPC patch in the installer.

 

 

Does this mean  i delete the mod entirly from my modlist and then re install it  in this new location in the  the REGS  mod list ? 

Yep :)

 

 

When it says to install the mods from the REGS pack after your last installed mod , do they mean after the Moonlight tales mod and before the compatibility patches 

 

or 

 

install those after the SR patch File ?

 

After the compatibility patches (which is technically a "mod").

[thorgal]

thank you 

[thorgal]

ok  my SRLE+ REGS + perma is finished .

 

 

Does this loadorder look good ?

 

 

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Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp

Better Dynamic Snow.esp

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Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

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RRR_ELFX-Patch.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp

RealShelter.esp

Helgen Reborn.esp

Better Vampires.esp

ETaC - Complete EWDR Patch.esp

SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp

OBIS.esp

Bring Out Your Dead.esp

WAF_CCF_SIC Patch.esp

Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp

REGS - Better Docks.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

CCO_SIC_Patch.esp

Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp

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dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp

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towConversation.esp

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ETaC Complete - BOYD NPC Fix.esp

MoonAndStar_MAS.esp

Immersive Whiterun.esp

Immersive Solstheim.esp

Sky Haven Temple M&M3.esp

ETaC - Complete NoSnow Patch.esp

Holidays.esp

ETaC - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp

Hebrock_Der Schatten von Meresis - EV.esp

BetterDGEntrance.esp

RelightingSkyrim-FULL.esp

NerniesCityandVillageExpansion.esp

BFT Ships and Carriages.esp

Nightingale Hall.esp

ORS_DremoraUpdate.esp

PerkusMaximus_Master.esp

PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp

PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp

CWIELnFXPatch.esp

RBB - SR Merge.esp

Inconsequential NPCs.esp

Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp

Cloaks.esp

TheChoiceIsYours.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

Understone Keep Repair.esp

ORS_ChaptersLinker.esp

Point The Way.esp

UniqueBorderGates-All.esp

SMIM-Merged-All.esp

BlackreachOverhaul.esp

EFFDialogue.esp

NightingaleArrows.esp

Atlas Legendary.esp

SFO - Dragonborn.esp

RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp

quest_nomercy.esp

Immersive Patrols II.esp

ETaC - Complete BFT Patch.esp

ETaC - Complete CRF Patch.esp

tos_laintardale_hf.esp

Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library.esp

tos_amber_guard.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

ETaC - Whiterun Ext CRF Patch.esp

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Chesko_Frostfall.esp

Provincial Courier Service.esp

quest_seaofghosts.esp

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PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp

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ETaC - Whiterun Ext ELFX Patch.esp

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ETaC - Complete ORS Patch.esp

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DeadlyDragons.esp

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

Traps Are Dangerous.esp

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dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp

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REGS Patch - 3DNPC.esp

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HoldBorderBanners.esp

FarmhouseChimneysMaS.esp

MzarkWonders.esp

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PP_OgmundsTomb.esp

Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp

iNeed.esp

Gildergreen Regrown.esp

TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp

iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp

UniqueBorderGates-All-PointTheWay.esp

Prometheus_NSUTR Falskaar Dock.esp

ETaC - Complete Atlas Patch.esp

Apple garden.esp

PP_WindcallerPass.esp

PreventsAccidentPickUp.esp

quest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp

Patch - Inconsequential NPCs - RS kids.esp

Patch - Interesting NPCs - RS kids.esp

PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp

1nivWICCloaks.esp

1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp

PerMa Fixes.esp

PerMa_USKP master patch.esp

PerMa Headless.esp

PerkusRangedPatch.esp

PerMaExtendedPerkDescriptions.esp

PerMa_Survivalism.esp

MFVM_EFF_Patch.esp

MFVM_Hearthfire_Patch.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

ELE_Legendary_Fs_Wt_Lite.esp

SR Conflict Resolution.esp

DynDOLOD.esp

REGS - SRLE Patch.esp

Pre PaMa CCOR Patch.esp

Pre PaMa WAFR Patch.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

RSPatch.esp

ASIS-Dependency.esp

PatchusMaximus.esp

ASIS.esp

 

 

 

Edited June 19, 2015 by GrantSP
added spoiler tags

[shaunlewis]

Thorgal, your load order doesn't appear to meet the suggestions of the author of PCaPP.

 

I posted in the PERMA thread my suggested load order (I am also running SRLE + REGS + PERMA + a few others which end up being ordered by LOOT anyway) before I saw this post, so you, and any others struggling might refer to that.

 

The main point to take away is don't expect LOOT, as it currently stands, to do a proper job with PerMa without some manual help.

[thorgal]

yeah , i realized that the day after .

 

 

now i think i got it right thanks to the other thread 

 

this is the new one  :

 

BTW how do i hide long lists like this on here ?

 

 

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TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
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MoonGlow.esp
Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
NPC Knockout Overhaul.esp
NB-Scars.esp
MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp
BFSEffects.esp
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Better Dynamic Snow.esp
FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
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PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
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Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
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ETaC - Complete EWDR Patch.esp
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Bring Out Your Dead.esp
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CCO_SIC_Patch.esp
Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
High Level Enemies - SIC.esp
OBISDB.esp
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dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
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ETaC Complete - BOYD NPC Fix.esp
MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
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Immersive Solstheim.esp
Sky Haven Temple M&M3.esp
ETaC - Complete NoSnow Patch.esp
Holidays.esp
ETaC - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp
Hebrock_Der Schatten von Meresis - EV.esp
BetterDGEntrance.esp
RelightingSkyrim-FULL.esp
NerniesCityandVillageExpansion.esp
BFT Ships and Carriages.esp
WAF_CCF_SIC Patch.esp
Nightingale Hall.esp
CWIELnFXPatch.esp
RBB - SR Merge.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
Cloaks.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
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ORS_ChaptersLinker.esp
Point The Way.esp
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SMIM-Merged-All.esp
FarmhouseChimneys.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
AOS.esp
ORS_DremoraUpdate.esp
BlackreachOverhaul.esp
EFFDialogue.esp
Atlas Legendary.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
RRR_ELFX-Patch.esp
RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp
quest_nomercy.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
ETaC - Complete BFT Patch.esp
ETaC - Complete CRF Patch.esp
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DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
Traps Are Dangerous.esp
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BooksOfSkyrim.esp
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CWIDragonbornPatch.esp
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3DNPCEFF.esp
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The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
HoldBorderBanners.esp
FarmhouseChimneysMaS.esp
MzarkWonders.esp
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PP_OgmundsTomb.esp
Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp
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Gildergreen Regrown.esp
TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
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UniqueBorderGates-All-PointTheWay.esp
Prometheus_NSUTR Falskaar Dock.esp
PP_WindcallerPass.esp
NightingaleArrows.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
CCO_Frostfall_Patch.esp
imp_helm_legend.esp
ETaC - Complete Atlas Patch.esp
Apple garden.esp
PreventsAccidentPickUp.esp
quest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp
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Patch - Interesting NPCs - RS kids.esp
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PerMa Fixes.esp
Better Vampires.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
PerMa_Survivalism.esp
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Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp
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DynDOLOD.esp
RSPatch.esp
ASIS-Dependency.esp
PatchusMaximus.esp
Skyrim revisited Merged patch.esp
ASIS.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

 

Edited June 20, 2015 by thorgal

[Greg]

 

BTW how do i hide long lists like this on here ?

 

Put the long lists between [ spoiler ] and [ /spoiler ] tags. Alternatively click the third icon at the top of the editor (the one just before Font dropdown), select Spoiler in the BBCode dropdown, and paste your list in the big text box.

Edited June 20, 2015 by Greg

[shaunlewis]

Thorgal; No I am afraid that still doesn't look right to me.  To be honest, however, it probably doesn't matter if some REGS or UI mods end up mixed in since they don't touch the stuff covered by Perma, but to be safe, I think we ought follow the instructions of the mod authors precisely.

 

Once you have ordered the important esps manually according to this thread, make sure you you have highlighted the mods from GDO to PerkusMaximus_warrior.esp (or the apocalypse magic, if you have this installed) together and right click > lock mod order. Do the same for your bottom mods from Alternate start onwards. The perkus esps should be near the top of your load order. 

 

When you run loot, some mods did still interwine with my locked mods, so unlock them, move the mods that ended up inside and move them below or above the last previously locked mod, preserving the order. Then lock them again. You should end up with two contiguous blocks of locked mods; one just under your ESMs, and one at the very bottom.  

 

Also, make sure that you untick 'run loot' when you run SUM, or it will mess it up again, despite the MO lock. LOOT should only be ordering the 'Any other ESPs' (which in our case is quite a lot!). If, of course, you have now finished your set up and is working, I would leave as is. 

 

If you need any more help with this, I think we ought go back to posting in the other thread, since I gather this one is for SRLE installs without additional mods and it would be useful to gather up all the PERMA install related issues together.  

[thorgal]

well i did do a few tests and so far it seems to work fine as it is .

 

So ill keep it like this  for now .

 

Should i run into problems ill post it in the other thread .

[triptonite]

When I run SUM, nothing happens. I get a SkyProc Patcher file in my MO overwrite folder but no list of installed patchers. I created a mod from the MO overwrite but I think it is not working the way it is supposed to be. i.e. I cannot do the below step:

 

A list of installed patchers should be displayed with a check box next to each.
Click the arrow next to each patcher icon and configure them as in the subsections below.
Click [sUM Options] and uncheck "Run LOOT".

 

I tried reinstalling SUM. I downloaded the latest version of Java and even the JarFix tool indicated by the SUM installation readme. When I went into the MO>mods>skyprocs patchers>SUM there was no SUM.jar (but it does show up in the MO data window when setting as an executable.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

[triptonite]

I finally got SUM to work, but only by going into the MO>mods>SUM folder and double clicking on the SUM.jar. But I do not get any patchers (despite having ASIS and Dual Sheath Redux. Have I missed a step?

Edited June 21, 2015 by triptonite