SRLE Extended: Legacy of The Dragonborn

[Thalioden]

Brodual's review of ICAIO mentions that it does not touch stealth behavior and recommends Immersive Detection of NPCs.  However, IDNPCs is on the Dangerous Mods list.  Some alternatives are Realistic AI Detection, Dynamic Stealth (download), and Detection Extended in order from least taxing to most taxing on your system, though Detection Extended can be heavily customized via MCM to be much less taxing than the default. 

 

Realistic AI Detection is a game-settings-only mod.  This makes it very efficient, and highly compatible, but also seems to make it less dynamic.  The author has released 4 different versions to try to accommodate different lighting and weather mod setups, but warns that it may not work as expected with certain weather or lighting mods.

 

Dynamic Stealth is still beta, and the author is rumored to be working on a new version, but the present version has some bugs that cause inconsistent behavior.

 

SRLE LotD does not seem to have anything addressing NPC detection (especially for stealth/light/sound).  If I've missed something that does address this, please point it out to me.  Has anyone used one of these mods, or a similar alternative with SRLE LotD?  Do you have any thoughts or recommendations?

 

[edited to add download link for Dynamic Stealth]

Edited November 1, 2016 by Thalioden

[rayhne]

Updated

 

SMIM

ordination

Immersive Citizens

[rayhne]

Also USLEEP has been updated.

[reddvilzz]

Are you still able to run dyndolod afterwards?

I haven't tried. Still fiddling around with my load order doesn't really wanted to generate DynDOLOD yet. Is there an issue with it?

[Greg]

Brodual's review of ICAIO mentions that it does not touch stealth behavior and recommends Immersive Detection of NPCs.  However, IDNPCs is on the Dangerous Mods list.  Some alternatives are Realistic AI Detection, Dynamic Stealth (download), and Detection Extended in order from least taxing to most taxing on your system, though Detection Extended can be heavily customized via MCM to be much less taxing than the default.

Stealth Skills Rebalanced updates the detection system as well, although it also modifies the perk trees of the stealth skills for an overall improvement in gameplay.

[Darth_mathias]

Thalioden the reason that i didn't include many stealth mods was because i wasn't playing that kind of character when i created this build so they didn't fit with my play style. That being said my wife did use Stealth Skills Rebalanced - Sneak - Lockpicking - Pickpocket by kryptopyr along with Ordinator (don't forget the patch from ordinator for it) when she did her last play through before the birth of the twins. I believe there were one or 2 conflicts that are easy enough to fix.

Edited November 2, 2016 by Darth_mathias

[reddvilzz]

There is a patch for Kryptopyr's SSR and Ordinator? Never knew that, AFAIK loading each one you prefer for the stealth is the "patch"

[jdsmith2816]

I haven't tried. Still fiddling around with my load order doesn't really wanted to generate DynDOLOD yet. Is there an issue with it?

Yes; or atleast there was a few months ago.

[reddvilzz]

Yes; or atleast there was a few months ago.

What's the solution for that?

Maybe because the new WB have C.Image and other stuff on its bashed patch? I see new bash tags are functional on the bashed patch window.

[efnight]

I keep getting these crash errors while playing at random places: https://i.imgur.com/z8h5yvM.png

 

Thanks.

[Thalioden]

Thalioden the reason that i didn't include many stealth mods was because i wasn't playing that kind of character when i created this build so they didn't fit with my play style. That being said my wife did use Stealth Skills Rebalanced - Sneak - Lockpicking - Pickpocket by kryptopyr along with Ordinator (don't forget the patch from ordinator for it) when she did her last play through before the birth of the twins. I believe there were one or 2 conflicts that are easy enough to fix.

Thank you Greg and Darth for pointing me to SSR. I wasn't really considering SSR because of the perk changes (and thus conflict with Ordinator), but your recommendations prompted me to take another look.  I also reviewed Ordinator's description for possible SSR conflicts and found this:

 

Stealth Skills Rebalanced: That mod overhauls several perks and therefore conflicts with Ordinator. Ordinator already comes with balance changes to sneaking, lockpicking and pickpocketing. If you prefer the game settings changes (the changes that make sneaking and stealing harder) in Stealth Skills Rebalanced over those in Ordinator, load it before Ordinator and use the "No game settings changes" version of Ordinator.

So maybe Ordinator already covers this? I may have to examine Ordinator and some of the stealth/detection mods in XEdit...

[rayhne]

After so long of putting the game together I'm thinking maybe I should ... play it?

 

I need to update everything then go for it. I think. Maybe

[reddvilzz]

Thank you Greg and Darth for pointing me to SSR. I wasn't really considering SSR because of the perk changes (and thus conflict with Ordinator), but your recommendations prompted me to take another look. I also reviewed Ordinator's description for possible SSR conflicts and found this:

 

 

So maybe Ordinator already covers this? I may have to examine Ordinator and some of the stealth/detection mods in XEdit...

Some of the aspect yes it is covered by Ordinator but some of them also not covered by Ordinator. You can check it on xEdit. And you can compare and choose which one you like for conflicting assets.

[efnight]

DynDOLOD keeps crashing my game at random places: https://i.imgur.com/z8h5yvM.png

 

When I disable it the crashes stop anyone know what can cause this? :(

[paul666root]

 

DynDOLOD keeps crashing my game at random places: https://i.imgur.com/z8h5yvM.png

 

When I disable it the crashes stop anyone know what can cause this? :(

 

those are two meshes from Real Roads. Try reinstalling that mod and make sure it's unpacked.

Edited November 3, 2016 by paul666root